For those who think pac i goat... why do they think that?

08-21-2007, 12:47 PM

As I said in another thread, there are better lyricists, but there is more to rap music than lyrics. Dude was truly one of a kind. And have you ever noticed that even though he recycled a lot of his emotions, it never got repetitive?

Unlike a Jay-Z, a Rakim or a Nas, Pac put all of his emotion into every track, he was the best at makin' you feel what he felt through his words. Dude always brought amazing energy on any kind of track, whether it be a song dedicated to his moms, about his homies, against his enemies, or about himself.

It really sucks that he died because if you listen to the "7 Day Theory" album, you will see that he was turning a huge artistic corner...his imagery, lyricism & creativity was amazingly high, he was just about to enter his prime and someone k!lled him. Biggie's [rip] was horrible don't get me wrong but 2Pac's murk was the worst thing to happen to Hip-Hop.

08-21-2007, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Hurricane24

what makes pac better than anyone else? what makes him better than jay, nas and big?

Jay, Nas, and Big had nothin on Pac.

He was on a much deeper level than all 3 put together.

He had more swagger than any of them.

He had a lot more important !! to say.

He was more vertsatile.

Back in 1996 he probably had more fans.

11 years after his [rip] people are still talking about him and listening to his music. Still selling records.

08-21-2007, 12:50 PM

pac is that nicca.........

*d/l's pac songs*

08-21-2007, 12:54 PM

A lot of people think Pac is GOAT because of his delivery. Sit back and listen to any Pac song especially Me Against The World songs and the guy spat passion on them songs like no one has ever done. I remember when he said "they should of k!lled me as a baby now they got me trapped in the storm im going crazy". With 99.9% of rappers they say that stuff and your like yea ok. But with Pac you felt those lines, it gave you goosebumps. He spat like every song was his last like every line was potent venom. Thats why a lot of people think he's GOAT.

08-21-2007, 12:54 PM

I dont feel like repeating myself over and over, but if you dont get why Pac is the GOAT then you never will. Thats how I feel, and Kings you're a moron, not everyone that says Pac is the GOAT is a sheep. People have opinions just like you have yours, how are you gonna nitpick somebodys opinions when its just that, OPINIONS. Grow up gotdamn.

08-21-2007, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Hurricane24

now i disagree wit jay d*ckriding pac.... jay was dissed by pac before he even released anything? what jay is going to drop his first album and diss a dead man in the same year?

Actually, Jay did diss 2Pac while he was still alive sonny listen to his track dead or alive pt.1&pt.2 featuring sauce money

08-21-2007, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by tdm2000

^^"Brenda got a baby","Keep ya head up", "Dear Mama", "Only God Can God Me", "Hit em up". Yeah bro these are ALL simple songs. [pic]

Yeah, YOU can turn back on FM and listen to Aye Bay Bay.

Go to my last.fm before you make such a retarded generalization.

Most of those songs are some of the worst conscious music I have heard. Brenda Got a Baby is the only one I will listen to out of all of them.

08-21-2007, 12:56 PM

my opinion... dont have a reason... just who i like...

08-21-2007, 12:57 PM

its simple, pac was the best entertainer in rap period. he might not have the greatest lyrics, but who honestly judges there favorite rapper these days on lyrics alone. im not trying to take anything away from anybody but when jayz fans talk about how hes the greatest you always hear the word hustler, and when 50 is talked about you hear about money. well who really cares about any of that, rap/hiphop is entertainment and pac will give you the best entertainment value per dollar thats for damn sure.

08-21-2007, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by thug_poet777

Actually, Jay did diss 2Pac while he was still alive sonny listen to his track dead or alive pt.1&pt.2 featuring sauce money

even better, shows jay actually dont care for pac that much like other mc's

08-21-2007, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by `·.¤KINGGS¤.·´

Go to my last.fm before you make such a retarded generalization.

Most of those songs are some of the worst conscious music I have heard. Brenda Got a Baby is the only one I will listen to out of all of them.

^^ you're lost bro. [pic]

08-21-2007, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Hurricane24

i'm just basically asking what makes him superier to any other rapper out there cus if he's the best then there must be a reason

well I like Jay,Nas,Big,Rakim and all those cats,but to me Pac was the realest.

Pac didn't have to make Big Pimpin,Big Poppa,Show me what you got or none of that "commercial" !! to sell. he made
Brenda's got a baby
I ain't mad atcha
Keep your head up
Dear Momma
Trapped

these songs were made to connect to his audience's mind not just their wallets.

08-21-2007, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Hurricane24

even better, shows jay actually dont care for pac that much like other mc's

No. Actually, what it shows is that when he shouts out 2Pac on the Blueprint 2 or in interviews or during concerts or when he's !!ing up classics like Me And My Girlfriend, that he too is just as much of a d*ckrider as Nas is when he comes out on stage and !!s up half of the words to Keep Ya Head Up with a 2Pac shirt on.

08-21-2007, 01:03 PM

let me hear your argument for kanye being better than nas? i'm expecting you to incorporate jay somehow in your argument, like he has done more collabos with jay than nas....... so kanye>>>>>.nas[pic]

08-21-2007, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Hurricane24

what makes pac better than anyone else? what makes him better than jay, nas and big?

pac is not the greatest.
jay is not in the top 500.
nas is not the greatest.
big is not in the top 50.

you guys sound like kids. stop watching MTV.

08-21-2007, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by `·.¤KINGGS¤.·´

Go to my last.fm before you make such a retarded generalization.

Most of those songs are some of the worst conscious music I have heard. Brenda Got a Baby is the only one I will listen to out of all of them.

that's you.most ppl could NEVER make a song like Dear Momma and be taken serious.Rakim included.

08-21-2007, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by tdm2000

^^ you're lost bro. [pic]

oh thanks for telling me. Now you expect me to sheep right?

08-21-2007, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by thug_poet777

No. Actually, what it shows is that when he shouts out 2Pac on the Blueprint 2 or in interviews or during concerts or when he's !!ing up classics like Me And My Girlfriend, that he too is just as much of a d*ckrider as Nas is when he comes out on stage and !!s up half of the words to Keep Ya Head Up with a 2Pac shirt on.

because he only used his song he cant say this song is tight and pac is gay... he cares about image and sales duh u dont do stupid !! like that

08-21-2007, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by CommSense123

pac is not the greatest.
jay is not in the top 500.
nas is not the greatest.
big is not in the top 50.

you guys sound like kids. stop watching MTV.

Big ain't top 50[pic]
let me guess Common and Rass Kass are the greatest[pic]

08-21-2007, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by jj01

let me hear your argument for kanye being better than nas? i'm expecting you to incorporate jay somehow in your argument, like he has done more collabos with jay than nas....... so kanye>>>>>.nas[pic]

this isn't about kanye and nas y try to make another arguement? kanye>> nas in my opinion but no one cares

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