Soundclick Producers Are Ruinin' The Game |
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| 01-26-2013, 11:15 PM | away - #21 | |
Not all of those producers are working the local thing or at least working it as hard as they're doing the soundclick thing. Again I don't want to pick apart Johnny Juliano because I know people who have worked with him but he has not taken the local approach I was talking about to that extent. In fact I know people from Pittsburgh who have said he has had a hard time with placements with bigger named artists because of his SC persona. He did try with Wiz but he should have kept on after the falling out, I'm sure that was the most money he's seen and he was actually landing placements. He has the talent. While somebody like Harry Fraud who samples !!in everything is more known because he isn't too focused on soundclick and he found his local rapper to produce for. NOBODY IS knocking using the internet homie. Hell if you don't use the internet you're an idiot. But relying on SC and it's chart system to the point you're selling beats for $5 and giving them away for free is sad. Just imagine if Kanye was a SC producer and he let that "Heart of a City" beat go for free. Before you finally hear Jay rap on it you done heard all these wack[..] rappers with bad quality mics spitting rubbish over it. When you do hear it, you already heard it before so it lacks the exclusiveness and it ruins the listening experience. !! letting everybody and they mom download it for free and get it in the hands of the RIGHT people. Which Kanye did and now we have a classic song. You can argue it all you want but most successful producers are not relying on SC. They found their artist to produce for. Harry Fraud found French Montana, Lex found Waka, Zay found Gucci, Timbo had Missy, The Neptunes had Clipse/Teddy Riley, Young Chop has Chief Keef, Mike Will !!in wit Future, etc. If you find your artist through SC that is great. That I Get Money is a great example of a !!ed up situation. If it would have just stayed on soundclick it ALSO wouldn't have been a big record so don't forget that. It took someone (Scott Boogie) to get that in 50 Cent's hands, which should tell you something about relying mostly on Soundclick. I know who Kane Beatz is but I don't know his story, which is what I meant. | ||
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| 01-26-2013, 11:20 PM | away - #22 | ||||
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| 01-26-2013, 11:59 PM | away - #23 | ||||||||||||
| Perhaps I got it confused then cause I wasn't going at the whole 'depending on soundclick"....Cause the people i'm thinking about didn't do that...And yeah ChasenCashe did do that at one point...Hell I rapped over a few ChasenCashe beats back in '03, '04', and 05...they had the electronic male voiced tag that had the really deep baritone vocals....saying 'chase n cashe productions'...then a high pitched one after it...lol...A lot of the niccas posting on sites like Futureproducers also were on soundclick...and were also on iuma(which pre-dated soundclick...don't know how old you are but anyone who remembers the early SC days...and before SC remember iuma....Reverbnations whole format is literally iuma) I do more !! locally than I do on the internet....I never did the premium soundclick thing with all the designs and !!...never did Roc Beats....never did much of any of that...!! I got my start producing in the streets and the studios here...was on a lot of local niccas Gangsta Grillz and DJ Holiday tapes at one point...Even now I'm producing joints that have anyone from Big Sean, Mac Miller, 2 Chainz, Gibbs, Fiend, Devin The Dude, 8Ball & MJG and so on/so forth....One of the crazy things I've done with the local talent is I've been able to not only produce for them...I've also been able to get them featured on/working with majors....
....Thats a local artist I support and produce for..... I can list others I helped do things and built with and such...but I also understand how the internet can help me spread throughout an area...Pittsburg for instance...We did the Mac joint...and that lead to joints with Boaz, Chevy Woods and so on...hell the Chevy Woods work made its way back to the A and got a joint with Chevy/Scrappy on it...
.....so on and so forth ya know.... Member of my production team is born/raised/lives in Birmingham....So this makes sense
That local hustle + the internet hustle makes it all make sense We got a soundclick...just never pushed that !! tho lol Oh yeah no free beats though LOL. !! all that !!...only time we do the free tracks !! is if we drop a beat cd....and those usually add up to something...We dropped a beat tape once and a canadian company made Drum Gang shirts for free and we had giveaways an such...blogs sponsored the !! and everything. And this aint k!lla lol....Killa wouldn't dare say that word...lmaoooooo [pic] Last edited by ALLEEK; 01-27-2013 at 12:09 AM.. | |||||||||||||
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| 01-27-2013, 12:11 AM | away - #24 |
| powerful thread | |
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| 01-27-2013, 12:42 AM | away - #25 | |
I hate hearing that JOHNNY JULIANO DOT COM thruout the song...!! irritating and I see what you're saying. It does !! up the exclusiveness of a song when you hear 20,000 niccas already ripped the beat with that tag riden thru the whole song. And like you stated alot of times it be rappers w/ the worst quality which messes up the feel of the beat and doesn't really give it it's full potential. Not to mention the production game just like the rap game is so watered down now. And that's just because now anybody can make a track or produce a beat so you gotta skim thru all the bull!! to get to tha gold mind. That's why I was kinda blown away when Trinidad James said he found all his beats on his mixtape for free on the net. I'm like you mean to tell me he found "All Gold Everything" just browsing the net?? The beat alone is amazing in the simplest of ways. | ||
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| 01-27-2013, 02:11 AM | online - #26 |
| I just typed hella !! then accidentally pressed back. oh well, this topic is the truth. Subscribed. | |
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| 01-27-2013, 02:14 AM | online - #27 |
| Lol, i was readin ya'll replies like [pic] | |
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| 01-27-2013, 11:12 AM | away - #28 | |
You know the only reason this happens is cause broke rap niccas target the free downloads and DON'T buy exclusives with the tag removed right???? I can show you tons of local/indie niccas who have bought Juliano beats without the tags in em. | ||
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| 01-27-2013, 11:22 AM | online - #29 | |
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| 01-27-2013, 11:34 AM | online - #30 |
| never heard of this !!... iono what game u playing but u need to get a console and stop playing them bowling alley arcade games... talking about unsigned soundclick producers is !!ing up the game (the game = the industry = being signed or some what marketable) Thats like saying flag football is k!lling the nfl | |
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| 01-27-2013, 11:49 AM | away - #31 | |
Also you know A LOT of rappers record tagged beats off soundclick and then rap over them without producers permission...thats one of the reasons I never got into soundclick heavy lol | ||
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| 01-27-2013, 11:53 AM | away - #32 |
| MOST OF THESE NEW PRODUCERS GOT ON BECUZ OF THE INTERNET....They made their connections thru the Internet.... When you hear beats with TAGS all thru them....That is suppose to be used for DEMO VERSIONS...When you LEASE them you get a Non-Tagged version but for that $20-50 you paid for lease....It might be 50 people with the same beat.....You buy exclusive you talkin' $200-$1000 There is some niccas who is making ALOT OF MONEY !!in' with soundclick.....and Damn near every producer you named has had soundclick wheather they pushed it or not...... Young Chop had/has had Soundclick,Jahlil beats,Kane Beatz,Flawless Production,etc 50 Cents "I Get Money" was on Soundclick....Uncle Murda's Warning etc | |
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| 01-27-2013, 11:57 AM | away - #33 | |
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| 01-27-2013, 11:59 AM | away - #34 |
| 50 cent found the beat for i get money on soundclick and it was the FIRST beat dude ever sold. stfu and quit bytching, u jus come down off a molly boy? | |
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| 01-27-2013, 12:01 PM | away - #35 |
| rappers gonna be rappers. they will rap to anything. sure I can blame them but they have been rapping on beats without permission for years and that'll never change. producers should know that offbat and try and get them to the right artist. yea it's sad rappers are cheap and don't wanna spend money on their dream. i can't tell you how many niccas would cop liquor and weed but would flip out like I am asking for the world when I told them they had to pay for studio time. That's life. It would make no sense to move backwards and lower my prices by a lot or make it free when there are so many passionate and committed artists who WILL pay the fee. i would simply keep the prices and target the serious musicians. the video revenue posted is a very good example of what im talking about. | |
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| 01-27-2013, 12:02 PM | away - #36 | |
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| 01-27-2013, 12:07 PM | away - #37 | |
edit: Again I am NOT KNOCKING soundclick or having one. I am simply knocking the producers who are selling their art for dirt cheap or giving it out for free to everyone and anyone. Last edited by Martel; 01-27-2013 at 12:10 PM.. | ||
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| 01-27-2013, 12:20 PM | online - #38 | |
and he is marketable... When i think of "THE GAME" i think of people that are known outside they region and !!... When is the last time you got a mixtape, a real mix tape from a reputable artist, that has tags all through it? You can be part of the game (Sunday night football/college football), or you can just play the game (backyard football) | ||
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| 01-27-2013, 12:40 PM | away - #39 | |
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| 01-27-2013, 01:04 PM | online - #40 | |
Then their are some artist who just street ball and is seen by a school, or a team and they add em to their D league team or practice squad to mold them (i.e. trinidad james, soulja boy, and ect), and then they hit the pros what im trying to get at, the ratio for signed to unsigned is like 1:100,000 and out of that, the amount of unsigned hype that has any type of influence on the game is 2:100,000 and to think about it, alot of these "unsigned/indie" rappers nicca talk about are actually not unsigned or indiependent... they have some type of crew, production label, engineer or something that puts them in the know... they just dont have a major deal... Wiz Khalifa (rostrum records) Big Krit (Cinematic (sp?), DJ wallie Sparks) Curren$y (Young Money, Cinematic) Joey Basa$$ (cinematic) Wale (Studio 43) Mac Miller (rostrum records) | ||
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