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 Rap Radar Really Doesnt Like Chief Keef: B.Dot On NY Times Podcast
topic by Steve - 01-12-2013, 01:16 PM



A few days ago, yours truly sat alongside journalists Jon Caramanica and Ben Ratliff for this week’s edition of The New Times Popcast. Our conversation revolved around SPIN’s review of Chief Keef’s debut, Finally Rich. The site rated the album 8 out of 10. To boot, Nas’ Life Is Good received a 7 out of 10.

Prior to the sit-down, I labeled the author Jordan Sargent for being a cultural tourist. My comments caught the attention of my colleagues (Dave Bry, Benjamin Meadows-Ingram) and opened up some dialogue regarding race.

According to Jordan, Keef, “made one of the best rap albums of the year, and one of the best major label debuts in recent memory.” He spends a majority of his review justifying Keef’s presence instead of his music. When he does get around to the music (or lack there of), he makes apologetic statements for Keef’s technical abilities as a rapper. At various points, he even compares some songs to those of the mixtape Weezy reign.

An argument that most Keef supporters make is that his “sh-t bangs”. That credit should go to Young Chop. As a whole, Keef’s music represents the lowest common denominator in rap. It suggests that being lyrical is an antiquated idea and marginalizes rappers creative scope. Yes, Chicago is a bad place. Yes, Keef is a product of his environment. But is that an excuse to be inarticulate or skillful? For some reason, hipster media/writers has this fascination of lauding crappy rap music all in the name of irony. Anyone Remember Lil B? In any event, check out the podcast above.

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 01-12-2013, 01:38 PMaway - #2
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I wish actual artist would stand up and keep it 100, but everybody buddy buddy and wack n*ggas brainwashed all the mainstream listeners into thinking being critical is hate over the past decade so it aint happening.
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Originally Posted by Arson
I wish actual artist would stand up and keep it 100, but everybody buddy buddy and wack n*ggas brainwashed all the mainstream listeners into thinking being critical is hate over the past decade so it aint happening.
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Originally Posted by SM

A few days ago, yours truly sat alongside journalists Jon Caramanica and Ben Ratliff for this week’s edition of The New Times Popcast. Our conversation revolved around SPIN’s review of Chief Keef’s debut, Finally Rich. The site rated the album 8 out of 10. To boot, Nas’ Life Is Good received a 7 out of 10.

Prior to the sit-down, I labeled the author Jordan Sargent for being a cultural tourist. My comments caught the attention of my colleagues (Dave Bry, Benjamin Meadows-Ingram) and opened up some dialogue regarding race.

According to Jordan, Keef, “made one of the best rap albums of the year, and one of the best major label debuts in recent memory.” He spends a majority of his review justifying Keef’s presence instead of his music. When he does get around to the music (or lack there of), he makes apologetic statements for Keef’s technical abilities as a rapper. At various points, he even compares some songs to those of the mixtape Weezy reign.

An argument that most Keef supporters make is that his “sh-t bangs”. That credit should go to Young Chop. As a whole, Keef’s music represents the lowest common denominator in rap. It suggests that being lyrical is an antiquated idea and marginalizes rappers creative scope. Yes, Chicago is a bad place. Yes, Keef is a product of his environment. But is that an excuse to be inarticulate or skillful? For some reason, hipster media/writers has this fascination of lauding crappy rap music all in the name of irony. Anyone Remember Lil B? In any event, check out the podcast above.

Couldnt have said it any better.
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He right but at the same time they aren't critical of the old guard anything Jay drop is genius gtfoh.His verse on 3 kings is straight at best but it was rated in the top 5 verses of the year Schoolboy Q verse on can I speak to you off 50 tape sh*ts all over dat. They don't have enough balance to be calling out hipsters when Ross can uggh 6 times and get verse of the year.
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the credit for young chop goes to keef. you would never even know who young chop was if not for keef writing hit songs with his beats.
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Originally Posted by Arson
I wish actual artist would stand up and keep it 100, but everybody buddy buddy and wack n*ggas brainwashed all the mainstream listeners into thinking being critical is hate over the past decade so it aint happening.
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Originally Posted by dejordan
the credit for young chop goes to keef. you would never even know who young chop was if not for keef writing hit songs with his beats.
this is exactly what they were just talking about, trying to justify Keef's presence and not his talent
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i beat this lame will also tell you ross is a good rapper

and that em makes great music
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Originally Posted by Arson
I wish actual artist would stand up and keep it 100, but everybody buddy buddy and wack n*ggas brainwashed all the mainstream listeners into thinking being critical is hate over the past decade so it aint happening.
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Originally Posted by bigree61
i beat this lame will also tell you ross is a good rapper

and that em makes great music
stop cryin
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n*ggas is hating my son keef got bars n*gga
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lol @ "keef got bars" ...nah keef got beats
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Originally Posted by nightmare
this is exactly what they were just talking about, trying to justify Keef's presence and not his talent

didnt listen but im not justifying sh*t. keef has undeniable talent.
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Originally Posted by dejordan
didnt listen but im not justifying sh*t. keef has undeniable talent.
you got to be kidding me
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Originally Posted by 6thward
He right but at the same time they aren't critical of the old guard anything Jay drop is genius gtfoh.His verse on 3 kings is straight at best but it was rated in the top 5 verses of the year Schoolboy Q verse on can I speak to you off 50 tape sh*ts all over dat. They don't have enough balance to be calling out hipsters when Ross can uggh 6 times and get verse of the year.
Who the fu*k rated that trash Top 5?

That verse was a.ss, worst Jay verse I've heard. sh*t is fu*king terrible. Saying its straight is a disservice to an average verse
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Originally Posted by dejordan
didnt listen but im not justifying sh*t. keef has undeniable talent.
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rapradar is bi*ch made as fu*k. i'm glad noz sh*ts on them on the regular.
 

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