niccas pretending that Kanye can rap.

Dude's a !!

Big
Pac
Pun
Kool G Rap
Rakim
UGK
Scarface
8 Ball + MJG
Gangstarr
Outkast
Camron
etc.

Whoever Kanye was a top notch technical rapper?

niccas have never said that.

BUT he's easily the most talented/versatile ARTIST in hip hop, and has one of them most undeniable discographies..

Cant deny him that. [pic]

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niccas sayin kanye cant rap, are people who think they are going to be famous and think they can !! on kanye, or niccas who are just so sure they hate him, they cant even listen to his music, coldest winter was fire, and the pinocchio story

if u think hes so thrash release some music, that doesn't sound like it was recorded out side on your phone, cause most those new tracks in the unsigned section all sound like[..], and the lyrics are !!ty, just cause yall niccas say messiah and universe doesnt mean you guys are lyrical. kanye will sell more then you niccas, even if u had the same limelight or come-up,
not too much cause of the lyrics, but for the sonic part of his music, 808's sounds more pleasant then !!, , and i didnt even listen to it yet, and i prob wont

I dont think you know what discography means! Either way, the only artist(s) you named with a better "discography" than Kanye's is Outkat! Ye has three classic albums, 2 non-debatable! Ye has 1 "Critically Acclaimed" album (MBDTF) that spanned all genres. Ye has 1 album (808s & Heartbreaks) that birthed a new way rap was approached and accepted. It also ushered in a whole new group of artist (i.e. Drake, Cudi, Wale, etc.) And as time passes, people are appreciating "Watch The Throne" more and more, which was a great album IMO! The only rappers with as big of an impact on MUSIC is the GOATS (BIG, Pac, Jay-Z, Eminem, and Nas)

This is easily your dumbest post man.

The starting post clearly implies my opinion on him lyrically. His verses are forced.

It's in the first post.

All I am saying is, the dude is not a lyricist. Pac wasn't a lyricist but his !! was real, not forced and just plain honest.

You cannot be serious with that BS post.

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nicca please. You don't even have any explanations for the "forced" !! you're talking about, you just keep repeating it like a broken record.

Cause we can't get along, no resolution
Till we drown all these haters, rest in peace to Whitney Houston

Did Moses not part the water with the cane?
Did strippers not make an ark when I made it rain?
Did Yeezy not get signed by Hov and Dame?
And ran to Jacob and made the new Jesus chains?
In Jesus' name, let the choir say
"I'm on fire, ay," that's what Richard Pryor say
And we'll annihilate anybody that violate
Ask any dope boy you know, they admire 'Ye

Let the [rip] doors up
I threw [rip]s on the tour bus
I threw [rip]s on the private jet
You know what that mean, I'm fly to [rip]

Don't do no press but I get the most press, kid
Plus, yo my !! make your !! look like Precious

Nobody has ever called Ye a lyricist . . .

& you've got to be incredibly dim to call his lyrics, especially in his earlier days, disingenuous.

"I didn't write my raps down for my first four albums - like all, I did it from the head straight to the booth," he said. "But on this last album, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, I wrote it because I really put myself in the zone that my life was dependent on the success of this album. With that being the case, I said, 'You know what? No matter what anybody says about me, I can write something that can make someone that hates me the most have to really respect or love the song.' So even a song like 'Power,' I spent 5,000 hours writing it, and it's really the psychology behind the lyrics; it's not just blatantly, 'I've got all the powers' - [it's] 'No one man should have all that power.' It's word[ed] it in a really sensitive way that opens it up for everyone."

Wanna talk about dumb posts but you're parading around here saying !! with no evidence to support it. Sit the !! down somewhere boy [pic]

also, Z-Ro has a much better discography than Kanye, if you actually like rap music

Big
Pac
Kool G Rap
Rakim
UGK
Scarface
8 Ball + MJG
Gangstarr
Outkast
etc.

Explanations? For his forced !!? You gotta be kidding. That doesn't need any explanations, !! is very obvious. But since niccas too slow in here I might as well clarify in simple terms.

You gotta be !!ing kidding me if you say you can't see the forced bars in there. I don't need to push deep into MBDTF.

That's my point. No need for the pointless verbiage.

I never called them disingenuous. He had good verses here and there. Besides must of his verses from his earlier days were ghost-written, from Con to Rhyme. Dude even said he didn't write his lyrics for his first 4 albums.

It looks like Kanye West took a cue from Jay-Z by not writing down his lyrics for his first four albums.

Some !! are pretty much common knowledge. I don't see why a well-versed hip-hop listener would need evidence on Kanye's forced bars and sub-par lyricism.

Don't push it, nicca.

Norcal with absolutely no opinion again. !!riding another poster.

!!

each one of the artist i named has at least 2 non-debatable classic albums, and most have more

also, Fat Joe has as many non-debatable classic albums at Kanye

[pic] Negro you done lost yo mind huh?

To all of the quotes you listed you did !! but highlight lines out of context. But but but yo I SWEAR something about them is forced! I don't know what it is, I can't really go into explicit detail I just want to highlight random bars like I'm Hotboy


I didn't see !! but a!!poor effort to illustrate your weak point. Yeah, let me show you how Kanye being a millionaire & bragging about all of the fortunes that has come his way is mad forced. Let me show you how even though he's got SO many average verses I just want to highlight the Mercy verse because again his bragging was mad forced. How dare he rap about Lambos & !!es? How dare he compare Kim K to your !!? My god Ye tries ridiculously hard [pic]


No, first your point was that he couldn't rap. Then it was that he's an "average" lyricist but nicca...you're arguing against something nobody even said in the first place. You havin a menstrual bleed for no reason (oh & put the thesaurus down kid) [pic]


"Most" of them huh? Give me every single verse that was ghost written with confirmed sources since you're so sure. Like Kreemy said Cons couldn't even say who ghostwrote for Ye as if it were that many people to begin with so why should I believe you?


Oh so because HHSE said it it MUST be true? I mean word, they've been the mecca for reliable hip-hop information since I don't know how long. !! outta here. You want to take Ye's comments about not writing lyrics and twist it into having someone else write for him? Like he is the first rapper ever to rap straight off the dome huh? This is pathetic dude...


Your "evidence" is contorted, contrived and doesn't prove jack !!, nor does the 2 lines from another verse and half of his mercy verse you quoted.

And to the highlighted tell me again who the !! you're supposed to be

Why even respond to this dumbass thread?
You're lit if you think Kanye can't rap.

You've been sounding real mad on here since GKMC dropped [pic]