Ima go there again cuz ya'll know its true...Timbo>>>>>>>Dr. Dre...Bring the debates!

By DPGUNIT - 08-23-2007, 05:26 PM - Boxden > The Hip-Hop Spot

ANSWER IT

Im glad folks gave Dilla love in the other thread...but this is a debate between 2 COMMERCIALLY KNOWN producers...and from the opinions i got in the other thread i figured this would be a vaild debate for the majority of boxden[pic]

thoughts?

08-23-2007, 05:35 PM

I agree, Timbo>>>>>>>>>>J Dilla. That is all, wait. Oh yeah, he's way better than Dre also. These Black producers stay doing the same !!, and using the same style of samples their whole !!ing careers. Timbo has done it all as far as hits for multiple genres, and came back with different sounds that were copied. And his best stuff doesn't require multiple samples. So, any of these average Black guys don't even deserve to be mentioned in the same category. And that is my opinion, which is fact only to me.

08-23-2007, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by KE3

I agree, Timbo>>>>>>>>>>J Dilla. That is all, wait. Oh yeah, he's way better than Dre also. These Black producers stay doing the same !!, and using the same style of samples their whole !!ing careers. Timbo has done it all as far as hits for multiple genres, and came back with different sounds that were copied. And his best stuff doesn't require multiple samples. So, any of these average Black guys don't even deserve to be mentioned in the same category. And that is my opinion, which is fact only to me.

i didnt say that...i just wanted to compare 2 more widely known producers since folks said they really havent heard most if Dillas material

08-23-2007, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by KE3

I agree, Timbo>>>>>>>>>>J Dilla. That is all, wait. Oh yeah, he's way better than Dre also. These Black producers stay doing the same !!, and using the same style of samples their whole !!ing careers. Timbo has done it all as far as hits for multiple genres, and came back with different sounds that were copied. And his best stuff doesn't require multiple samples. So, any of these average Black guys don't even deserve to be mentioned in the same category. And that is my opinion, which is fact only to me.

I guess you haven't dug that deep into Jay Dee's catalog.

08-23-2007, 05:40 PM

Timbaland has ghost producers too. Two producers who don't do beats with there own mind. Better comparison, but I think I would rather not get into why I don't respect either of them.

08-23-2007, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by `·.¤KINGGS¤.·´

Timbaland has ghost producers too. Two producers who don't do beats with there own mind. Better comparison, but I think I would rather not get into why I don't respect either of them.

speak on it fam[pic] i say timbo>>>>Dre cuz when he first came on the scene his style forced everybody to switch they !! up....there were basically no fast uptempo beats til Timbo[pic]

08-23-2007, 05:47 PM

SMH, one Timbo and Danja beat off that Loose or Justin album>>>Dre and Timbo's careers.

08-23-2007, 05:58 PM

My only problem with Timbo is the work he gives to all the wack[..] people he works with. He brought Missy Elliot to us, I will never forgive him for that. Dr. Dre stole G-Funk, he !!ed up ALOT of [rip] row and aftermath albums and stopped them from coming out aswell. Not to mention He has produced about 40% of his beats by himself.

08-23-2007, 06:12 PM

Y'all are hatin' on Dre hardcore nowadays, actin' like he didn't do what he did for rap and ish...If it weren't for DJ Premier, he would be the greatest producer rap has ever seen, period.

08-23-2007, 06:14 PM

he has "hits" but for people to label him as the greatest just baffles the !! outta me

08-23-2007, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Victor $weet

Y'all are hatin' on Dre hardcore nowadays, actin' like he didn't do what he did for rap and !!...If it weren't for DJ Premier, he would be the greatest producer rap has ever seen, period.

What did he do?

He stole G-Funk, so give me something HIS brain came up with, that is dope.

08-23-2007, 06:17 PM

In Da Club is the best beat I have ever heard...[pic]

08-23-2007, 06:18 PM

He stole G-funk [pic] [pic]

Dre >>>> Timbo >>> Dilla

Fools are just saying Timbo is better cuz Timbo is on fire right now... but Dre has been doing this for over 20 years consistently.

08-23-2007, 06:19 PM

tim is nowhere near dre

08-23-2007, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Storchaveli

He stole G-funk [pic] [pic]

Dre >>>> Timbo >>> Dilla

Fools are just saying Timbo is better cuz Timbo is on fire right now... but Dre has been doing this for over 20 years consistently.

Timb is hot right now?[pic]if any producer is hot right now its Rotem...nobody still has given a CLEAR answer as to why Dre is labeled the greatest

08-23-2007, 06:21 PM

yall some IDIOTS if you think timbo is really behind justin timberlakes and timbos recent success.....its all danjahandz..timbo says it himself...read up in "scratch" wit danjahandz and you'll see how much work timbo is really doing on his new !!....however.. DANJAHANDZ is GOAT [pic]

08-23-2007, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Storchaveli

He stole G-funk [pic] [pic]

Um, you never heard that before?

Cold 187um created G-Funk and Dr. Dre stole it an ran with it. Before you even respond to me, make sure you know who Cold 187um is..[pic]

Not to mention the fact Del the Funkee homosapein, Redman, & EPMD were all using funk samples year(s) before Cold 187um even came up with the idea.

06:27 PM

Originally Posted by `·.¤KINGGS¤.·´

What did he do?

I don't know, other than being a innovator to this whole rap !!; changing it's form, pioneering "gangsta rap," being one of the first to put the reality of the streets into the music and at the same time, selling records and making the !! commercialized....Oh yeah, and that whole "Chronic" thing...but I guess other than that, he did nothing, and he isn't worth !!.....[pic]

I think I'd much rather listen to Magoo, Nelly Furtado, Tweet & Missy Elliott anyway...:rolleyes:

08-23-2007, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by DPGUNIT

Timb is hot right now?[pic]if any producer is hot right now its Rotem...nobody still has given a CLEAR answer as to why Dre is labeled the greatest

dre's been part of three dyn@sty;s ruthless [rip]row and aftermath thats why he is considere the greatest

dre>>>>>>>>>>>>>ur fav producer

08-23-2007, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Victor $weet

I don't know, other than being a innovator to this whole rap !!; changing it's form, pioneering "gangsta rap," being one of the first to put the reality of the streets into the music and at the same time, selling records and making the !! commercialized....Oh yeah, and that whole "Chronic" thing...but I guess other than that, he did nothing, and he isn't worth !!.....[pic]

Oh so he pioneered gangsta rap 4 years after Kool G Rap.

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