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If you don't think Jay Z is the goat, then you don't know anything about hip hop


 If you don't think Jay Z is the goat, then you don't know anything about hip hop
 01-09-2013, 12:46 AMaway - #61
SavageMitten 24 heat pts24

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I'm going by lyrics and flow he garbage after bp1
 01-09-2013, 02:17 AMaway - #62
CIDF 31 heat pts31

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PREACH. if u at a balanced stage of real niccadom u understand why jay is goat
 01-09-2013, 02:54 AMaway - #63
NORTE 4 heat pts

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Originally Posted by DSOM
hip hop must be the only genre where the fans constantly try to tear down the legends but give all the utmost respect and praise to the new hot nicca or current one hit wonder.

and
btw
it took jay-z half of his career b4 the "white folks" started loving him






none of that is false or opinionated. facts are facts.
Jay-z is constantly quoted.
He has outlasted most of peers.
He has proven throughout his career that he is versatile enough to rap on any type of song. Underground or Mainstream.
All the while making those mainstream hits that push you beyond the label of just an average rapper.

Krayzie bone is a great rapper, But his choice to use that same flow throughout his career stops him from being a superstar. He's Limited.
The GOAT cannot be Limited.



the ONLY aspect about krayzie bones flow being the same is the fact that it is always changing up, mid verse, start of verse, end of verse. He samples CLASSIC songs in his own flow. Nobody pays homage to their own favorite songs in their own flows during a spit verse like krayzie bone. The ONLY flaw in his flow is slow people cant bob their head in one consistant rhythm while krayzie spits since he changes it up so much. They are stuck on having a verse that sounds the same way all the way through. Even throughout the entire song most artist will do one melody their entire verse. That bores the pi$$ out of me. There are so many mind blowing aspects to krayzie bones music but some people are not smart of enough to catch on..slow people think a flow that is CONSTANTLY changing up , pace, rhythms, breaks , melodys etc ALL THE TIME means "since their flow changes every single time that means its always the same". Horrible logic! the uniqueness of krayzie bones flows stand out so much compared to any other artist that they cant comprehend just cause its definately krayzie bone doesnt mean its the same flow!
 01-09-2013, 05:02 AMaway - #64
AC SLATER 25 heat pts25

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Originally Posted by swayze
The more you guys say this !! is not going to make it true. Jay !!ed the game up. He was passed the torch by default and took the lead on his on accord =Hova the supposedly GOD of hip hop.

Taking that into account he started the trend of hot singles trash a$s album. Flash ,money , hoes etc type lyrics . It's written in all his top singles of the last 10 - 13 years. Luke warm flow and empty rhymes. He started the non sense in Hip hop and abandoned ship.



1998 and beyond

Can I Get A...
"Hard Knock Life (Ghetto Anthem)" (exception)
Money, Cash, Hoes
Jigga My nicca"
"Do It Again (Put Ya Hands Up)"
Anything (exception)
Big Pimpin' (exception)
Hey Papi"
"I Just Wanna Love U (Give It 2 Me)"
Guilty Until Proven Innocent"
"Izzo (H.O.V.A.)"
"Girls, Girls, Girls"
"Song Cry" (exception)
"Hovi Baby"
"'03 Bonnie & Clyde"
"Excuse Me Miss"
"Change Clothes"
Dirt Off Your Shoulder
99 Problems (exception)
"Show Me What You Got"
"Lost One" (exception)
"Hollywood"
"D.O.A. ([rip] of Auto-Tune)" THE GREATEST HATER RECORD OF ALL TIME.
"On to the Next One"




nicca to POP to be even considered the GOAT. Great business mind (snake) but PAC is the GOAT and never say other wise again.
The Black Album is trash ? Oh, ok...
 01-09-2013, 05:12 AMaway - #65
cowlersleycowle 

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" I dumb down for my audience. And double my dollars"

Jay-Z fans lost
 01-09-2013, 08:23 AMaway - #66
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Jay-z - Momma Loves Me - YouTube

such an underrated jay song, classic.
 01-09-2013, 08:49 AMaway - #67
uddart 1 heat pts

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Originally Posted by Pitts Gutta
Nas has gaps in his career. Pac become 10x more popular after he died. Biggie could have been better...just not enough music. Jay is the greatest and its not even close.
Jay-z have gaps
2Pac have gaps
Biggie have gaps


your point?

Nas got better album by album compared to Jay.

Jay wouldnt be the same without Biggies and 2Pacs [rip]s.
2Pac have earned his stripes, when u drop 3 classics, 6 albums of total in less than 7years + tons of music. I think he has the upper edge towards Jay. Jay is the goat to a very few on boxen, but out in the world. People consider 2pac the greatest by a longshot and he is worshipped all over the world. So nah son I dont think Jay is better.
 01-09-2013, 08:49 AMaway - #68
ManWithoutFear! 2 heat pts

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nicca average

Big Pun >>>>> Jay-Z

"What you wanna wild out? You wanna dance?"
 01-09-2013, 08:53 AMaway - #69
Root Of Evil 51 heat pts51

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Originally Posted by uddart
Jay-z have gaps
2Pac have gaps
Biggie have gaps


your point?

Nas got better album by album compared to Jay.

Jay wouldnt be the same without Biggies and 2Pacs [rip]s.
2Pac have earned his stripes, when u drop 3 classics, 6 albums of total in less than 7years + tons of music. I think he has the upper edge towards Jay. Jay is the goat to a very few on boxen, but out in the world. People consider 2pac the greatest by a longshot and he is worshipped all over the world. So nah son I dont think Jay is better.
 01-09-2013, 09:04 AMaway - #70
uddart 1 heat pts

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Originally Posted by Root Of Evil
Atleast I have proven arguements like most havent done in this discussion yet. Prove me wrong stan
 01-09-2013, 09:17 AMaway - #71
MonStar Music 7 heat pts

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jay z is overrated garbage imo, boring flow, boring delivery, boring voice. Lyrics are average nothing special
 01-09-2013, 09:19 AMaway - #72
freshprinceoba 17 heat pts17

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kindergarten when rd came out?

yeah ok OP
 01-09-2013, 11:57 AMaway - #73
keezy504 9 heat pts

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Originally Posted by freshprinceoba
kindergarten when rd came out?

yeah ok OP
What does that mean.
 01-09-2013, 11:59 AMaway - #74
keezy504 9 heat pts

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Thumbs down

Originally Posted by MonStar Music
jay z is overrated garbage imo, boring flow, boring delivery, boring voice. Lyrics are average nothing special
 01-09-2013, 12:02 PMaway - #75
messy marv stan 1195 heat pts1195

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another one of the daily 27 joe camel !!ridin threads
 01-09-2013, 12:06 PMaway - #76
whowantit 16 heat pts16

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I hate when people say "If you dont agree with my opinion then you dont know anything about hip-hop"
I disagree with you and can guarantee I know more about hip-hop than you do. If Jay-Z being GOAT is YOUR opinion then cool, have that opinion and STFU. Fans like you are the reason why people just don't want to support certain artists, you're obnoxious and think your opinion means more than anyone elses.
 01-09-2013, 12:07 PMaway - #77
ARosary 23 heat pts23

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not even the best from Brooklyn........word to AZ (& r.i.p. Half-a-Mil)
 01-09-2013, 12:10 PMaway - #78
keezy504 9 heat pts

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Originally Posted by whowantit
I hate when people say "If you dont agree with my opinion then you dont know anything about hip-hop"
I disagree with you and can guarantee I know more about hip-hop than you do. If Jay-Z being GOAT is YOUR opinion then cool, have that opinion and STFU. Fans like you are the reason why people just don't want to support certain artists, you're obnoxious and think your opinion means more than anyone elses.
You say you know more about hip hop than me? But yet you say Jay isn't the goat? The irony.
 01-09-2013, 12:10 PMaway - #79
Radio Raheem 14 heat pts14

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Originally Posted by whowantit
I hate when people say "If you dont agree with my opinion then you dont know anything about hip-hop"
I disagree with you and can guarantee I know more about hip-hop than you do. If Jay-Z being GOAT is YOUR opinion then cool, have that opinion and STFU. Fans like you are the reason why people just don't want to support certain artists, you're obnoxious and think your opinion means more than anyone elses.
 01-09-2013, 12:14 PMaway - #80
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Originally Posted by ARosary
not even the best from Brooklyn........word to AZ (& r.i.p. Half-a-Mil)
Az ? A !!ing Z lol. NaS is way better than Az, so picture Jay.
 
 


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