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 If you don't think Jay Z is the goat, then you don't know anything about hip hop
Unread 01-08-2013, 04:57 PMJoined Jan 2007 - on now - #41
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Originally Posted by ballergenetics
Besides his flow, what else is Bizzy Bone better than Jay at (as a rapper) ?
u could end this by asking him to name an album bizzy has that is fu*king with RD, BP, or BA

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Originally Posted by ballergenetics
Besides his flow, what else is Bizzy Bone better than Jay at (as a rapper) ?
implying Bizzy has as much flows as Hova the gawd
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Unread 01-08-2013, 05:08 PMJoined Nov 2012 - away - #43
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not even close
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Originally Posted by Kreemy
implying Bizzy has as much flows as Hova the gawd
Ya, I was being nice there...lol.
Fast flow = better flow to the slow.
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I would say "then I don't know anything about hip-hop" but you (the person reading this) & I both know that's a lie...


































































































































YOUNG!!
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Originally Posted by Retro
I would say "then I don't know anything about hip-hop" but you (the person reading this) & I both know that's a lie...


































































































































YOUNG!!
That ego...
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this n*gga gotta be trolling

if not tell me what hood you in so i can come slap the fu*k out of you
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Originally Posted by YI-Drizzy
this n*gga gotta be trolling

if not tell me what hood you in so i can come slap the fu*k out of you
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Originally Posted by ballergenetics
That ego...
Pot to the kettle pleighbwoi

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Ehhh IMO Pac is GOAT....

but Jay is Top 5, number 2 on my list
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Unread 01-08-2013, 05:41 PMJoined Jun 2012 - on now - #51
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I'd say quite the contrary but that's just me.
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Jay's the best hip-hop ARTIST. Overall that is. He may not be the absolute best in some categories like lyricism, content etc. Lets say theres like 10 different criterias to rank a hip-hop artist in and the higher position you have in each individual criteria the more points you recieve. Jay will be no.1 in atleast 5 of those criterias and top5 in the other five.

Theres no artist doing that. There might have been some capable of it like pac, big, scarface, 3stacks but the longevity and consistensy of Hov outshines every other hip hop artist.

Now shut the fu*k up.

/thread.

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u can praise jay-z 2 the fullest that's fine, but goat voice??????? nah, its trash





who has the better voice on this?
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Originally Posted by DSOM
Nas can be the best lyricist. Pac and Wayne can be the most Popular. Eminem can have the best Flow. Scarface can be the most Gangsta. But take all that into ONE and Overall Jay-z is the GOAT.

Jack of all trades, master of none.
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Jay-z is more of a hitmaker and got his focus on the money. Like he said himself he is not a businessman, he is a business maaan.

I regard him as a very very good rapper, but as the greatest of all times I dont think he is not. I rather see 2Pac or Nas as the greatest. And that's no bias towards Jay-z. But comon man, with a few statues over the world, wall paintings and university courses. I think 2Pac have taken the GOAT title long time ago.
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Nas has gaps in his career. Pac become 10x more popular after he died. Biggie could have been better...just not enough music. Jay is the greatest and its not even close.
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Originally Posted by uddart
Jay-z is more of a hitmaker and got his focus on the money. Like he said himself he is not a businessman, he is a business maaan.

I regard him as a very very good rapper, but as the greatest of all times I dont think he is not. I rather see 2Pac or Nas as the greatest. And that's no bias towards Jay-z. But comon man, with a few statues over the world, wall paintings and university courses. I think 2Pac have taken the GOAT title long time ago.
Son.

Commercially Jay-Z ain't have but one number one song until BP3.

I mean ya'll gotta get over that.

Dudes albums as entire projects is what garners his fans support.
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overall jay has everything you would want in a rapper

hes great in every department of music hes the goat because of that reason

fu*k money

look at lyrics flow charisma impact tell me who has all of that plus the longevity not to mention his body of work as a whole.

Albums Features No one comes close....
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"n*ggas throwing me shade.....BUT ain't sh*t sunny" - HOV

"I took a step back, I viewed myself, seen where my head was at
It's where that dough is homey, gotta get that
Gotta get away, some try but head back
Uhh, street smart n*ggaz got left back
Some died, they left stacks
Me, I ball right, and on top of that I'm dumb nice" - HOV


n*ggas can't even see the Vol. 3 HOV and that wasn't even one of his top 3 albums IMO
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His catalogue can't be touched. If he died 5 years ago this wouldn't even be a question.
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