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 Hip Hop = Reason Why Black Communities Are Horrible...
topic by LVuittonDon4EVA - 01-08-2007, 05:40 PM


Ight ya'll one of my friends believes that Hip Hop Music is plaguing the Black Communities in America. The negativity, hatred, glorifying money and power, putting down women, etc. is one of the reasons why there is no positivity in the Black Society (according to him)...And he constantly references 50 Cent and like the old deathrow and sh*t like that. So I'm planning to show him that he has Hip Hop all fu*ked up if he is trying to sit there and blame Hip Hop. He misunderstands Hip Hop completely soo what I'm asking from my BX Fam is for ya'll to suggest some tracks that I'mma play for him so he can see the creativity, the passion, and show him what REAL Hip Hop is. I'm looking for wordplay, flow, creativity, etc.

Thanx.



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 01-08-2007, 05:43 PMonline - #2
LBThrizzy 5 heat pts space
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No offense...But I don't even know who your friend is. And I'd like to slap him.
 01-08-2007, 05:45 PMaway - #3
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Nas
"I Know I Can" Godson Album

Masta Ace
"Beautiful" Long Hot Summer(basically this whole cd)

Pac
"Keep Ur Head UP"
 01-08-2007, 05:47 PMaway - #4
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Lots of common...
In particular Common - retrospect for life
Nas- DAnce
i dont even know sounds like hes pretty ignorant to me cant change the ignorant
 01-08-2007, 05:48 PMaway - #5
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Originally Posted by LBThrizzy
No offense...But I don't even know who your friend is. And I'd like to slap him.
Yeah pretty much, so I told him that I'll make like 2 CD's full of tracks, and I'mma break each track down, giving him the background, explaining to him the meaning behind the song,etc etc. There is much more to Hip Hop than just guns and bi*ches.
 01-08-2007, 05:54 PMaway - #6
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Anything From Common, Talib Kweli, Pharoahe Monch, A Tribe Called Quest, Murs.

There Are Alot.
 01-08-2007, 05:55 PMaway - #7
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dont you just hate people like this... let him listen to his nsync doesnt deserve to hear hip hop
 01-08-2007, 06:00 PMaway - #8
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Tell him to go read some books on the history of blacks in America.
 01-08-2007, 06:03 PMaway - #9
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 01-08-2007, 06:06 PMaway - #10
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IF THIS GUY STILL DON'T CHANGE HIS MIND, fu*k HIM UP.
 01-08-2007, 06:08 PMaway - #11
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your friend is right and for anybody to say that most rap music isnt negative is lying to thereself. For all the common's, mos def, talib whateva there are plenty of other rappers that rap about negative stuff that over shadow them. I know Nas made i know you can but he the same dude that made money is my bi*ch. Same wit pac he made keep yo head up but had thug life tatted on him and made plenty of songs that didnt have a positive message. Most rap now everbody talking about how much dope they sold, how many hoes they got and how much money they got. Younger kids listen to this and even people in they 20's listen and wanna be like these rappers and listen to the bullsh*t they say and think its real life. Hip-hop aint the main reason why the black community is so messed up its a combination of things but i know it isnt helping us. I still listen to it and like it but i know it isnt real life and know that most rap music is negative.

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 01-08-2007, 06:08 PMaway - #12
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I'm positive I'll change his mind, homie is from Sri Lanka and guess who their number one artist is...50 CENT

soo...just gotta show him the real Hip Hop.
 01-08-2007, 06:33 PMaway - #13
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Originally Posted by LVuittonDon4EVA
Ight ya'll one of my friends believes that Hip Hop Music is plaguing the Black Communities in America. The negativity, hatred, glorifying money and power, putting down women, etc. is one of the reasons why there is no positivity in the Black Society (according to him)...And he constantly references 50 Cent and like the old deathrow and sh*t like that. So I'm planning to show him that he has Hip Hop all fu*ked up if he is trying to sit there and blame Hip Hop. He misunderstands Hip Hop completely soo what I'm asking from my BX Fam is for ya'll to suggest some tracks that I'mma play for him so he can see the creativity, the passion, and show him what REAL Hip Hop is. I'm looking for wordplay, flow, creativity, etc.

Thanx.
yeah thats comin off abit ignorant,

"negativity, hatred, glorifying money and power, putting down women, etc"

thats not hip-hop, those are human traits you can find all over the world.

Moreso if he's from Sri Lanka he should know better.
 01-08-2007, 06:37 PMaway - #14
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i know you said that you wanted tracks for your friend to listen to, but first i'd like you to tell him to stop blaming a form of entertainment for people not raising their children right......yes, music/tv/movies/video games can influence people, but i've listened to music/watched tv and movies/played video games my entire life and i don't objectify women.....i don't k!ll people.....i don't think that money is everything.....the only thing i do wrong really is i curse, ALOT......dude needs to realize that before you blame other people for problems in a certain community, you should look at the people in those communities.......

as for songs.......there's tons.....alot of Common.....alot of Talib Kweli......some of the tracks on that Hi-Tek album.......some Nas.....some Lupe........there's some tracks on Termanology's new sh*t that have some 'insperational' lyrics.....

your friend, and alot of other people, need to stop generalizing an entire genre/sub-genre into what they're used to hearing on radio/TV.....
 01-08-2007, 06:39 PMaway - #15
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Originally Posted by Adamsville4real
your friend is right and for anybody to say that most rap music isnt negative is lying to thereself. For all the common's, mos def, talib whateva there are plenty of other rappers that rap about negative stuff that over shadow them. I know Nas made i know you can but he the same dude that made money is my bi*ch. Same wit pac he made keep yo head up but had thug life tatted on him and made plenty of songs that didnt have a positive message. Most rap now everbody talking about how much dope they sold, how many hoes they got and how much money they got. Younger kids listen to this and even people in they 20's listen and wanna be like these rappers and listen to the bullsh*t they say and think its real life. Hip-hop aint the main reason why the black community is so messed up its a combination of things but i know it isnt helping us. I still listen to it and like it but i know it isnt real life and know that most rap music is negative.
co-signing the bold to the fullest, i've always felt that way about pac man, dude had alot more negative tracks than positive, yet dude is glorified for his positive tracks like that's all he made (media wise) r.i.p pac
 01-08-2007, 06:44 PMaway - #16
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right everybody makes negative music but they still make positive sh*t..some artist are never positive...asfar as blamin HIPHOP
women been being downgraded since beginning of time..as well as murder,rape,money and Guns...all have been part of AMERICA b4 HIPHOP was thought of...why do you think movies like odfather and Scarface were made caus a majority of ppl LOVE violence or the thought of it
 01-08-2007, 06:57 PMaway - #17
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So things were perfect in black communities before hip hop came along?

Ask some older cats what it was like back in the day. Crime, drugs, even more racism than today.

Your friend is an idiot. There are always fools trying to blame problems on something like rap music, s3x on television, rock and roll music, violent video games, dungeons and dragons, violent movies, heavy metal, violent cartoons, pr0n, pro wrestling, etc.
 01-08-2007, 07:02 PMaway - #18
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Originally Posted by daliff89
i know you said that you wanted tracks for your friend to listen to, but first i'd like you to tell him to stop blaming a form of entertainment for people not raising their children right......yes, music/tv/movies/video games can influence people, but i've listened to music/watched tv and movies/played video games my entire life and i don't objectify women.....i don't k!ll people.....i don't think that money is everything.....the only thing i do wrong really is i curse, ALOT......dude needs to realize that before you blame other people for problems in a certain community, you should look at the people in those communities.......

as for songs.......there's tons.....alot of Common.....alot of Talib Kweli......some of the tracks on that Hi-Tek album.......some Nas.....some Lupe........there's some tracks on Termanology's new sh*t that have some 'insperational' lyrics.....

your friend, and alot of other people, need to stop generalizing an entire genre/sub-genre into what they're used to hearing on radio/TV.....
I personally believe the stuff on the radio is at the core of this issue... Sure it is unfair to blame a genre of music for social issues, but the culture that current-day pop rap fans embody (don't confuse that with traditional hip hop culture) is definitely a negative one.

There are lots of really talented artists out there that put hip hop in a positive light, but nobody hears their albums and they definitely don't have good chances at pop success. The mainstream artist DO have the greatest impact

IMO BET is a part of the problem as well... I feel like I get dumber almost every time I watch it... but that is a whole other issue.
 01-08-2007, 07:14 PMaway - #19
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again, i've listened to the radio my entire life, but my parents raised me correctly......i know what matters and what doesnt......i know what's wrong and what's not......that has nothing to do with the radio or TV or movies or anything else........

people need to stop trying to blame others for their problems and step up to the plate themselves, cause usually they're their own problem......
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Originally Posted by dumb_ass23
I personally believe the stuff on the radio is at the core of this issue... Sure it is unfair to blame a genre of music for social issues, but the culture that current-day pop rap fans embody (don't confuse that with traditional hip hop culture) is definitely a negative one.

There are lots of really talented artists out there that put hip hop in a positive light, but nobody hears their albums and they definitely don't have good chances at pop success. The mainstream artist DO have the greatest impact

IMO BET is a part of the problem as well... I feel like I get dumber almost every time I watch it... but that is a whole other issue.
If you were leaning towards the part media plays in this issue on a whole, I would definately agree, but I cannot agree with Hip Hop being THE reason. Again the characteristics that were noted are human traits which have been around for eons and are played out worldwide, and like the brother stated.

Originally Posted by daliff89
i've listened to the radio my entire life, but my parents raised me correctly......i know what matters and what doesnt......i know what's wrong and what's not......that has nothing to do with the radio or TV or movies or anything else
 

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