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are the fans slowly k#lling hip hop??


 are the fans slowly k#lling hip hop??
By hollatchadude - 08-07-2012, 07:48 PM - Boxden > The Hip-Hop Spot


business is business, the labels just want to make money. supply and demand. labels sell what there is a demand for which means the fans how ever inadvertently tell the labels who to sign.

if there was not a no limit making everything go plat. there would have been no cash money. no luda and lil john, there woulda been no gucci or wacka flacka...if it wasnt for ye, labels wouldnt been checkin for drakes or j coles.

we the fans tell where hip hop goes.... we are so helplessly dependent on a taste of the fantasy world that hip hop has become we yearn for more.

we have takin the lane of genuine realness away by advocating this rap that is strictly entertaining.

not hating on the rappers that do it for sport, or underground rappers who spit real !!. im just saying that the fans say whats mainstream not the labels. we run it!


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25 comments for "are the fans slowly k#lling hip hop??"


 08-07-2012, 07:56 PMaway - #2
NO RELIGION
Joe Budden the intellect said this back 2008
 08-07-2012, 08:03 PMaway - #3
Sam Rothstein
Politics as usual. Get what you want out of it as an individual. Music as a whole get annoying sometime, you have to remove yourself from that music world sometimes.
 08-07-2012, 08:16 PMaway - #4
hollatchadude
Originally Posted by Sam Rothstein
Politics as usual. Get what you want out of it as an individual. Music as a whole get annoying sometime, you have to remove yourself from that music world sometimes.
i dont get it, theres all types of music. a lot of mainstream artist i can do with out. lately ive been on a blues and jazz kick. wynton marsalis and bb king[pic]
 08-07-2012, 08:18 PMonline - #5
MGz
hip hop fans might be the worse fans on earth....they want to fail and have success at the same time
 08-07-2012, 08:26 PMaway - #6
hollatchadude
Originally Posted by MGz
hip hop fans might be the worse fans on earth....they want to fail and have success at the same time
elaborate.
 08-07-2012, 08:27 PMaway - #7
NO RELIGION
Originally Posted by hollatchadude
i dont get it, theres all types of music. a lot of mainstream artist i can do with out. lately ive been on a blues and jazz kick. wynton marsalis and bb king[pic]
im thinking about taking a break from rap/hip-hop for a year. !! is too repetitive.
 08-07-2012, 08:33 PMaway - #8
Sam Rothstein
I feel like hip-hop verses allow more room for details. Other genres are more abstract. I listen to everything, even movie scores because I like finding a good sample. However, when you spend a lot of time analyzing music you just want to take a break or just enjoy it for what it is sometimes.
 08-07-2012, 08:42 PMonline - #9
UF4Soldier
no the rappers and

secret agenda are
 08-07-2012, 08:44 PMaway - #10
hollatchadude
Originally Posted by Sam Rothstein
I feel like hip-hop verses allow more room for details. Other genres are more abstract. I listen to everything, even movie scores because I like finding a good sample. However, when you spend a lot of time analyzing music you just want to take a break or just enjoy it for what it is sometimes.
i agree, the only rap i listen at the momment is tde. mostly kendrick and ab soul because its so much different than everything else.
 08-07-2012, 08:45 PMaway - #11
hollatchadude
Originally Posted by UF4Soldier
no the rappers and

secret agenda are


not true, for most ppl who make real money, money is the most important part of the secret agenda
 08-07-2012, 08:47 PMaway - #12
ant30ant33
Hip hop fans put more energy towards complaining then supporting...

In the 80s,90s and early 2000s wasn't cool for you speak about hip hop if u didn't buy any albums..

People think its cool not to support hip hop artists..
They think downloading somebody mixtape for FREE is support when it's not...
Then they complain when they download it for FREE and say it's whack...

Pop artists not giving away any free music everything 4 sale... Hip hop artists might need to stop doing mixtapes...

Hip hop need new fans or these album sales only gonna get worse...

Last edited by ant30ant33; 08-07-2012 at 08:55 PM..
 08-07-2012, 08:56 PMaway - #13
hollatchadude
Originally Posted by ant30ant33
Hip hop fans put more energy towards complaining then supporting...

In the 80s,90s and early 2000s wasn't cool for you speak about hip hop if u didn't buy any albums..

People think its cool not to support hip hop artists..
They think downloading somebody mixtape for FREE is support when it's not...
Then they complain when they download it for FREE and it's whack...

Hip hop need new fans or these album sales only gonna get worse...
ya know you have a point...i dont do to much joe buddens. but everyones always talkin bout how dope he is and why he hasnt really done much, not realizing its because they have nt bought his !!.[pic]
 08-07-2012, 08:58 PMaway - #14
NO RELIGION
Originally Posted by ant30ant33
Hip hop fans put more energy towards complaining then supporting...

In the 80s,90s and early 2000s wasn't cool for you speak about hip hop if u didn't buy any albums..

People think its cool not to support hip hop artists..
They think downloading somebody mixtape for FREE is support when it's not...
Then they complain when they download it for FREE and it's whack...

Hip hop need new fans or these album sales only gonna get worse...
say these 'new fans' never materialize and hip-hop Album sales continue to decline. What do you think will be the end and final result for rap music and hip-hop as a whole?
 08-07-2012, 09:08 PMaway - #15
hollatchadude
Originally Posted by otherside
1. how should this be determined then? Hip-Hop is a different genre buddy, it is the largest mainstream genre so Artists have to Sound/Look Different in-order to have success...

Whats wrong with Gucci & Waka??? Gucci puts out some of nicest most followed street material, he is equipped with one of the most versatile Arsenals in terms of different Styles, also a great Ear for Beats!!! Waka has been in the Game for 3 years & has proved he isn't a 1 Hit Wonder, totally different Style that can only be perfected by him!!! Give him a Track with Wayne or Ross & he will be Top 5 Current Artist

2. Whats so terribly Wrong about Hip-Hop right now??? Not enough people sounding like Tupac, Nas & Wu-Tang Clan??? Sorry man but this is 2012, the 90s ended Quite sometime ago!! Aside from Pac being Dead there is no difference in 2012 as opposed to 1996... Just about as many songs about Drugs, !!ing !!es & Shooting People in the 1990s then there is right now!!! In the 1990s what was the Hip-Hop Radios playing??? they were playing the same !!ing kind of Music you would Listen to in any god damn Club just like they do today!!!

3. The Underground is Terrible!!! most those niccas sound all the same & blab about the same !!... Honestly what is so great about the Underground??? Immortal Tech making tracks about the Government blowing up Countries & Buildings!!?? Some random niccas talking about the Hood and you believing they are Really from the Hood when they could be just as fake as the people you dont like to listen to???



Are you a Pampered Baby or some !!?? not everything is going to be the way you Want it!! Hip-Hop is Hip-Hop, go to oldschool hip-hop Forums!!! Nas was getting just as Much Hate back in the Early 2000's when he was Dropping Ether as Lil Wayne gets on this Forum for being an half[..]ed artist... Go listen to your Kendrick Lamar, Slaughterhouse & B.I.G. Krit!!! Hip-Hop is Alive & well, all you are just brainwashed that the South is k#lling Hip-Hop meanwhile the South's Hip-Hop History Really kicked off a couple years ago with Gucci & Jeezy (aside from OutKast & all those 90s/early 2000's Artists, they were just Artists who happened to be from the South)
okay, but you totally misunderstood the gucci and waka reference i was just saying that there success was brought forth by the success of lil john and luda. im from the south new orleans to be exact, and i dont knock what some ppl like. there was a strtch of time where all i bumped was gucci trap house and back to the trap house.

my problem is that it has become overly saturated with everyone saying the exact samething over and over. gucci and waka have a lane the same as cole and kendrick. for the record i dont listen to j cole or big krit playa.

i can give waka his props same as ross, doent mean i have to like him. thats like saying i cant give lebron his props, if im a laker fan.

my point is the fans tell the label whats hot, hence the success of waka....and all the waka clones being one hit wonders
 08-07-2012, 09:09 PMaway - #16
X_WunderKind_X
One thing I don't get about hip hop fans is that they say it's changed, when they are too lazy to find artists with the style they like to hear. The mainstream is pushing what makes them money, but there will always be artists who make the music you like, even if youre the only one that knows about them
 08-07-2012, 09:09 PMaway - #17
ant30ant33
Originally Posted by NO RELIGION
say these 'new fans' never materialize and hip-hop Album sales continue to decline. What do you think will be the end and final result for rap music and hip-hop as a whole?
Hip hop better start touching new fans like it did in early 90s and early 2000s quik...
Cause of right now the hip hop ship is sinking...

Artists who underground in hip hop cant even sell 10K first week That's awful.
how it's 50 states in USA and u cant even sell 10K...

I see mainstream hip hop artists getting thousands spins on the radio every week then when the hip hop single goes for sale it flops....

These hip hop fans not supporting singles nor albums... At least pop artists having fans buying their singles...

Also think bout this how many hip hop artists selling out arenas when they tour?
 08-07-2012, 09:10 PMaway - #18
hollatchadude
Originally Posted by NO RELIGION
say these 'new fans' never materialize and hip-hop Album sales continue to decline. What do you think will be the end and final result for rap music and hip-hop as a whole?
nothing last forever, earlier in another thread i said im 30, and i think by the time my generation starts dying off so will hip hop or it will evolve into something else.
 08-07-2012, 09:11 PMaway - #19
Affectz
Hip hop will never die.too many great rappers.mainstream hip hop has been dead for a while now
 08-07-2012, 09:15 PMaway - #20
hollatchadude
Originally Posted by Affectz
Hip hop will never die.too many great rappers.mainstream hip hop has been dead for a while now
thats what they thought about doo op, jazz, and blues too[pic]
 
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