Az, Alpo , And Rich Porter..........paid In Full........
topic by BIGBOYCAPRICE83 - 07-17-2005, 10:03 PM
DONT KNOW IF YALL READ THIS ITS A COOL LIL ARTICLE THOUGH.....
HIT THEM PROPS
ONFESSED DRUG DEALER, AZ, SPEAKS OUT ABOUT HARLEM'S FAMOUS DRUG
DEALERS ALPO AND RICH PORTER
(from F.E.D.S. VOL. 1 Issue #1)
F.E.D.S..: You're smiling, but the rest of us want to know how you
managed to become one of Harlem's young great ones.
AZ: (after a long pause)......I never looked at myself like
that.....but I guess other people did, and I wasn't trying to do that
but....... it happened. I guess.
F.E.D.S..: But you are aware that you've made quite a reputation for
yourself, after all we have many hustlers, but we don't have many
hustlers like you.
AZ: True, I played the game, I played the game fair and I took the
F.E.D.S..: And that business was?
AZ: Drugs.....cocaine not crack. Straight cocaine.....why did I sell
cocaine? (He comments to himself).....I started selling coke like
around 1980 or late 1983...like November.
F.E.D.S..: How old were you then?
AZ: About nineteen, nah, about seventeen
F.E.D.S..: Did you know Richard Porter at that time?
AZ: Yeah......we went to school together, he lived up the block from
me, we like grew up together, matter fact, at first I was working in
the cleaners right across the street from where he lived at, Rich used
to hustle on Amsterdam Avenue and 145th Street.....and Rich wasn't
selling what you would call real drugs at the time. He used to sell
some **** to the white boys, I don't know where he learned it from, he
ain't never tell me, but that **** used to work. He used to go to the
supermarket and get a seasoning called sage and some eggs, take all
the sage and put in a bowl, then crack two eggs, mix it, put it in the
oven and let it cook.....then the **** would get hard, then he'd take
it out and mash it down flat.......once it dried, it looked just like
a drug that people smoked called hash.....it looked and smelled
exactly like hash...hashish. White boys used to come from Jersey and
Rich used to sell them pieces for like twenty, fifty dollars, he used
to stay fresh like that, sheepskins... leather b0mbers.
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F.E.D.S.: What were your conditions at home?
AZ: Home, ....my moms was on welfare, you know, sisters not going to
school....welfare threating to cut us off and I was one that never
liked to see my moms cry...that's why I started workin' in the
cleaners and every dime I would make....if I made a quarter, she would
get thirteen cents of it,...know what I'm sayin', and it's how it was,
and working in that cleaners it didn't earn me but so much money even
though I was like runnin' the place....runnin it. I was just getting a
hundred dollars a week and I was able to give my moms seventy five of
that. The cleaners owner was a number banker, I used to travel back
and forth on a bike, he bought me on the simple fact.....so I could
travel with this money....it made me feel like I was a hustler,
F.E.D.S.: So, why don't you tell me when you took that step up?
AZ: When me and Jimmy,...the cleaners owner, we had an argument 'cause
I wanted more money, he went into a thing about how he wasn't makin'
no money in the cleaners.. whatever...whatever...he was frontin',
cause his main business was the numbers, the cleaners was a front.
F.E.D.S.: In other words, he had you doing his dirty work and not
wanting to pay you for it?
AZ: Nope, he ain't wanna pay me....in deed....after that we had the
fall out. I was messing with Rich sister around that time.
F.E.D.S.: Patricia Porter?
AZ: Yeah, yeah....but hold up, before I quit, I used to...on Sunday's
I would open up the cleaners, say I had twenty five dollars, my man
Slim would buy **** from the liquor store like Wild Irish Rose and
this and that, so on Sunday's I would double the price of the liquor
for the alcohol and sell it out of the cleaners for double the price
since the liquor store was closed, and that's when I started getting
into the hustle game.....it was short money though.
F.E.D.S.: Could this be around the time when you became affiliated
AZ: Na...Alpo came later on, after Rich got locked up...what happened
was Alpo knew Rich. Rich was in a shoot out with this kid who robbed
L.A.'s mothers' house...Rich was his man...they say the same kid who
robbed L.A.'s house was the same kid who k!lled him...you know....Rich
was in a shoot out with the kid ...and wound up getting busted in the
shoot out and was charged with attempted murd3r on the police. The
other kid got away, so they had to blame Rich for something, he got
caught with a gun that had been fired, so Rich copped out to the
pistol charge instead of attempted murd3r on the police and wound up
getting six months in prison....around that time I was at a game on
139th street....I had just got in my car and pulled off and I seen
this motorcycle tailgating me and ****, so I pulled over in front of
my store I had on 145th Street, my man Lou seen the motorcycle tailing
me and gave me that signal like "who that?" I'm like...'I don't
know'...Lou had the joint on him...So, Alpo approached the car....Lou
was right there, Alpo took off his helmet to shake my hand and ****,
Lou was like that's that kid Alpo....so Alpo and I start kickin' it.
F.E.D.S.: So at that point, what kind of person did Alpo strike you to
AZ: After talking to Rich, he said Alpo was cool... look out for him,
so I gave him a lil' something....Alpo was that person that had to be
seen, you know, I wasn't the type to wanna hang out, get dressed,
party....never did....I walk around with my hair nappy....I ain't give
a ****, maybe with twenty thousand in my pocket, and a nice car....I
ain't care about all that other ****....Alpo was that type,....I guess
he wanted to be that big ni##a so bad, that he used to come around
like everyday...'yo. What's up A'....'wanna ride with me'....or....'A,
could I hold that car'..... he was the type of person that would push
his way in the house.. understand.
F.E.D.S.: Are you saying that you put Alpo on, because most people
from that circle did a$sume that he was that 'big ni##a'?
AZ: .....You could say that. I put him on...yo, I remember one time I
was going to buy my girl a Volvo station wagon, Alpo was with me. When
we went into the dealership they had this new car that had just came
out called the Impulse and he was like 'yo, this **** is fat, damn!',
so I said, you want that?, He was like, 'if I had this **** I don't
know what I'd do',.....I went in the trunk and I asked the man how
much it cost, he said like seventeen thousand, I said yall could get
it ready within the next couple of hours and I bought it for him? out
called the Impulse and he was like 'yo, this **** is fat, damn!', so I
said, you want that?, He was like, 'if I had this **** I don't know
what I'd do',.....I went in the trunk and I asked the man how much it
cost, he said like seventeen thousand, I said yall could get it ready
within the next couple of hours and I bought it for him?
F.E.D.S.: You have seventeen thousand dollars in the trunk of your
AZ: I had about fifty thousand in the trunk of my car......so I bought
him the car and after that it seemed like he would do anything I'd
tell him to do.....I wasn't using it like that....I was just doing it
to make him happy or you know.....to show him that it's all good right
F.E.D.S.: In earlier conversations you've said that Alpo was annoying
and that he did a lot of things that contributed to the down fall of
Richard and yourself, as well as everything that you est@blished in
AZ: Yeah, he became very annoying...he became like he didn't give a
****....meaning like, if you a hustler and you know you doing wrong
and you know it's against the law to sell drugs.....you're not gonna
be out there broadcasting that you this ni##a and that ni##a.....but
that's how Alpo was....I remember one time we was comin' from a hotel
or something, with some girls and the Rooftop skating rink was on
155th Street and 8th Avenue and he was like 'yo, take me to the
garage', 'cause we was in my car, 'yo, hurry up, A'.....so he could
get his car and make it.
F.E.D.S.: Where did Rich fit back into all of this, when he came back
on the scene?
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AZ: Well, Rich was there, but that **** never bothered him, Rich used
to be to his self.....Rich was the type that would come out early and
go in early like around 10:00.....he wasn't hangin' out and partyin',
none of that ****, he had like one girl and ****.
F.E.D.S.: Any particular reason why he didn't participate in the
usual, as opposed to you and Alpo"?
AZ: That's the way.....I think.....he liked to handle his
business....I guess.....He was real neat, never wore the same outfit
twice, kept a haircut, kept his jewelry sparklin'...no gaudy ****, but
it was expensive, he would wear a ring with like one stone worth like
seven or eight thousand, you know.....rolex....he carried his self
real respectable and ****, he wasn't into all that crazy ****, but
Alpo would try to bring **** around....Rich probably went in the
Rooftop once and he went with Alpo....like 'come on, come on', Alpo
was like a freak for that ****, 'you let's go to queens, let's go to
Forty projects, let's go over to the Baisley projects, I'm tellin'
you, let ni##as know!'......but me and Rich was crazy laid
back.......I remember Rich hung out late with me....we used to build
sometimes,the S&S Club was rockin' that night on 145th was in Rich
car, Rich had a 16 valve Mercedes Benz.....gold, with gold pipin'...we
was cruisin', and it seemed like everybody in front of the S&S, like
over a hundre d people......just seemed to stop and look at us....me
and Rich looked at each other.......Rich put the car in first gear and
started moving away real slow, he said, 'yo, you felt that, I said,
word....I said, yo, I'm scared, he was like, me too, yo mutha fu#kas
lookin' at us like we stars or somethin'......and that's when I first
realized.....like they said people was looking at us......AZ; Alpo and
F.E.D.S.: I'm trying to imagine how the two of you must've felt that
night, it must've been spooky, but then soon after that something even
more terrifying happened, on the twentieth day of August, 1987 when
you and some of your loved ones were shot down and left for dead in a
AZ: (after a long pause)........August twentieth, 1987......the
situation was like this, the person that set me up was my sister's
former boyfriend, when I was young and working for the cleaners he was
hustlin' for some older guy and he wound up robbing the guy, he took
like a kilo or somethin' from the guy so he was runnin' around with
guns on him.......he was like the first person I ever seen smoke
crack, I seen him cookin' the coke up and then smokin' it.......he
used to keep money, he used to hit me off with shorts when he was
messin' with my sister, twenty, fifty dollars, here and there.......so
he got busted for some ****, and went to prison.
F.E.D.S.: What led him to want to k!ll you?
AZ: I guess the word in prison was AZ, Alpo and Rich.....so when he
came home, he came to see me, he was like what's up I heard you
runnin' things or whatever.....I gave him a Saab convertible, brand
new, if the year was '87, the car was '89 '90 'cause that's how we was
movin'........if you had your joint more than six months, ya **** was
old, that's how we was playin'.....I gave him that.....and I gave him
a block (cocaine)......so he was rollin' when he came out of prison, I
felt he used to look out for me, even though he wasn't messin' with my
sister no more...but still, on August twentieth, 1987, at my aunt's
apartment in the Bronx, where I used to like stash my drugs at.......I
knocked on the door and he opens the door with a uzi and two other
F.E.D.S.: How did he get into your aunt's apartment?
AZ: ...He had to have pushed her in when she came from work...I don't
know.....how did he know where she lived at?.......I don't know 'til
this day....but to me, if a bank get robbed and someone gets away with
the robbery, it's a inside job, bottom line.....when he opened the
door he grabbed me, I had my man with me, Charlie, and this girl
Lynette, they grabbed us and took me to the living room, they took
Lynette and my man Charlie to the bedroom where they had my aunt and
she had two friends with her...so, they had five people back there,
they took the safe out the closet and told me to open it, meanwhile,
they had everybody in the bedroom handcuffed, laying face down....one
of them hit me in the head with the pistol and was like open up the
safe ni##a......I was bleedin' and ****, trying to open up the safe,
when you dealing with a safe you have to be accurate, if you go pass
the number you have to start all over again and under those conditions
of being hit with a pistol.....looking up and seeing it was Kev, a
ni##a I just looked out for, I was puzzled, so I was like yo Kev, and
his man hit me again with a pistol and said, "don't say his name mutha
fu#ka"......then it came to a point where I just couldn't open the
safe....I got nervous to a point where I knew I wa s gonna get
murd3red, so my plans was to try to get out of the apartment some kind
of way, one ni##a had everybody at gunpoint in the back, the other guy
was pacing with the gun, Kev was standing over me with the uzi so I
said listen, ain't no money in the safe but I got like $200,000 at my
house, just don't hurt nobody and yall can take me to go get the
money....it was madd hot outside that day, I had on a white t-shirt,
grey sweat pants and some white reeboks, my t-shirt was madd
bloody.....Kev was like, o.k....you comin' with me but you can't leave
with that bloody shirt on, so his man came out the room and was like,
get up, he took me to the bathroom to wash my face, he had on two
t-shirts so he gave me one to put on.......then Kev whispered
something in the guy's ear while he had the uzi pointed at me in the
bathroom....the guy went in the living room and turned the radio up
real loud......ni##a went in the bedroom and all I heard was gunshots
and I knew they was murd3ring everybody....my actions was li ke I
grabbed him trying to get outta there.....**** happened so fast, kid
came out the back and put the gun to my forehead and pulled the
trigger.....I seen him pull the trigger.....I felt the steel.......
F.E.D.S.: Did Kev shoot you in your head, too?
AZ: Na, it was this kid named Ronald....but in reality all three of
them shot me....I had three different bullets in me a 9mm, 38 cal. and
a 32, shot in the head twice, once in the neck, once int the shoulder
and three in the leg,.....just for being AZ, and it's sad that people
wanna take that route.
F.E.D.S.: Truly sad. How much did they walk with? I ask this question
only to put a light on the decay of the value of human life.
AZ: I had five thousand dollars in my pocket, that I won from a
basketball game and a diamond cross that costs about seven
g's,....that's all they got.
F.E.D.S.: How many people died in that horrible blood bath?
AZ: ........my aunt Joan died, my man Charlie died, a friend of my
aunts', Myra Enoch, Lynette got shot in the head, she lived....and my
aunts' friend Michael Lamar survived gunshot wounds.
F.E.D.S.: As a result of that lifestyle, you not only lost friends and
relatives, but you lost your best man.
AZ: ...yeah, that was my man.....God Bless Charlie...I love you,
baby...when I got shot I felt guilty, I felt like all all those people
lost their lives 'cause they was comin' to rob me.... that's when I
started realizing, the drug game ain't what ni##as think it is....it's
not........after getting shot I went into the music game, forming a
group named Mobstyle. In the music game, I came across a lot of snakes
very fast. One guy was a promotion man introduced to me by J. Robinson
named Bernard Thomas. Bernard asked a lot of questions about my past
so I quickly left Bernard alone. Bernard years later was the inside
informant placed by the F.B.I....to bring down Kevin Childs. He also
brought down Dave Tavdash (The one who discovered R. Kelly) on cocaine
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i got this...
|07-17-2005, 10:44 PM||away - #5|
Is There More To This Interview?
|07-17-2005, 10:49 PM||away - #6|
yea they had too parts 2 it...
|06-10-2006, 05:02 PM||away - #7|
that #### a good read im tryn ta find the documentary
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