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Jul 24 - How the Richest 400 People in America Got So Rich


 Jul 24 - How the Richest 400 People in America Got So Rich


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Runaway Growth in wealth has come from capital gains rather than wages

According to the IRS, which recently released 2009 data from the 400 richest individual income tax returns, the real runaway growth in wealth has come from capital gains. In the last years of the bubble, the "Fortunate 400" made nearly half their income from capital gains (a.k.a.: profit from the rising value of an investment, such as stocks or property) and less than 10% of their income from old-fashioned wages.

The average income of a top-400 earner grew by 650% between 1992 and 2007 to a whopping $344 million. Over that time, the average salary didn't even double. But the average capital gains haul increased by 1,200%. So how do the richest get richer? Not from their wages. From their investments.

Here's a look at the average salary and average capital gains income of a top-400 earner since 1992. Y-axis is labeled in thousands of dollars and all-time highs are noted in the graph.

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Three last things:

(1) Who are these people? As Tim Noah explained on our business page, a 2010 study studied the top 0.1 percent, who currently make at least $1.7 million. That's 14-times less than our Fortunate 400 group, but it's the closest we've got. Four in ten in this group were executives, managers, and supervisors at nonfinancial firms. Eighteen percent were financiers. Next came law (7 percent), medicine (6 percent), and real estate (4 percent). My guess is that the top 400 skews toward finance and chief exec even stronger. A lawyer/doctor making $2 million I can imagine. But $24 million?

(2) Capital gains absolutely dictate the wealth of the richest Americans. As Matt O'Brien graphed for us, that's why the income of the top 0.1 percent hugs the S&P so closely.

(3) Remember that as this is happening, the long-term capital gains tax rate has fallen from 28 percent in 1990 to 20 percent for the latter half of the 1990s to 15 percent under George W. Bush.

How the Richest 400 People in America Got So Rich - Yahoo! Finance


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33 comments for "Jul 24 - How the Richest 400 People in America Got So Rich"


 07-25-2012, 05:28 PMaway - #2
Prjhov03
And ur point
 07-25-2012, 06:03 PMaway - #3
ttime236
Been known this. Its what you can earn in those hours, not how many hours you put in.
 07-25-2012, 06:27 PMaway - #4
Illuminated
*Waits for people to rush in and start hating instead of taking notes so they can get like them*
 07-25-2012, 06:30 PMaway - #5
ttime236
Originally Posted by p00rky
Exactly. Work smart not hard
Yup

Btw, the comments on the article are funny as hell. So many people salty as hell they didnt invest earlier or at all. How you gonna be mad at someone else taking initiative to earn capital gains[pic][pic]
 07-25-2012, 06:42 PMaway - #6
HiLoMotion
Good stuff.
 07-25-2012, 06:54 PMaway - #7
Ednyce
good post.
 07-25-2012, 06:56 PMaway - #8
Ednyce
stupid mutha !!as need to take note, instead of worrying when the next jordans drop.
 07-25-2012, 07:24 PMaway - #9
GrezyNclean
Originally Posted by ttime236
Yup

Btw, the comments on the article are funny as hell. So many people salty as hell they didnt invest earlier or at all. How you gonna be mad at someone else taking initiative to earn capital gains[pic][pic]
i dont kno bout that...they made some good points. Rich ppl r going to have access capital to invest thus giving an advantage to the top 10%, whereas your average American doesn't really have enough money from salary to invest and make a significant gain.

I was once told by a wall street trader that if you don't have at least $100,000 to invest, there's really no point (unless you tackle penny stocks or something). Based on economic statistics the average American can't afford to invest....with that being said, Americans are TERRIBLE at saving...but when we save, we hurt our economy...catch 22
 07-25-2012, 07:51 PMonline - #10
getyagameup
personally, i think that the whole game is shifty. i mean, let's not get it twisted, the two oldest ways to make money in the us is either stocks or real estate. not everyone is going to know about either game, or be able to afford to play and the game itself is geared towards eliminating the competition. think about it, you want to control all the stocks or all the real estate. that's the name of the game so ultimately people are going to quit the game or get tossed (bought out, lose money, spend money in the game and then quit). that's going to leave all of the money in the hands of the few who remain in the game or have been in the game...forever...while the scraps get divided out to the rest of us. so to play, you have to play to win and someone has to lose. and then they fix the game, those funny mortgages from yrs ago, the "new" libor rate scandal........meanwhile, those who don't know or can't afford to play continue to lose cuz someone has to lose........this is the real catch 22. to get rich, or wealthy, you have to "earn" the money but someway, somehow you have to get it from somewhere, or someone. All things come to an end though. you can put air into a tire but for so long, even if you continue to patch the holes when they come. the tire tread is going to go sooner or later.....houses went...we got the stock market, student loans, health care.....they spend more on "war" than they do "peace", in all markets, and literally....the next year's time should be a really interesting one.

Last edited by getyagameup; 07-25-2012 at 07:53 PM..
 07-25-2012, 08:02 PMonline - #11
getyagameup
Originally Posted by GrezyNclean
i dont kno bout that...they made some good points. Rich ppl r going to have access capital to invest thus giving an advantage to the top 10%, whereas your average American doesn't really have enough money from salary to invest and make a significant gain.

I was once told by a wall street trader that if you don't have at least $100,000 to invest, there's really no point (unless you tackle penny stocks or something). Based on economic statistics the average American can't afford to invest....with that being said, Americans are TERRIBLE at saving...but when we save, we hurt our economy...catch 22

and yes, this is also a major issue. i think though that even if i were to save, since i was born, and invest wisely, for twenty or thirty years even, i still wouldn't come close to the level of a corporate behemoth that's been around for the past 50, 70 years before. that's why it's just .1% are "wealthy"....the game is only designed for a few to win. that's the thought that creates the mentality that has ppl spending money frivolously and not saving to play this game. that's the catch 22 that has this one opposite yours and fueling it at the same time.
 07-25-2012, 08:40 PMaway - #12
ifhwp222
Good Read
 07-25-2012, 08:43 PMaway - #13
Free Agentz
Cop a few bricks from ross n u good
 07-25-2012, 08:50 PMaway - #14
hockeythug
compound interest.
 07-25-2012, 08:55 PMaway - #15
WordOnThaStreet
they were already rich
 07-25-2012, 09:06 PMonline - #16
newark4lyfe3
[pic] JFK: Final President to Fight the Federal Reserve : Only Bankster Puppets Since - YouTube
 07-25-2012, 09:16 PMaway - #17
ahenson
Originally Posted by GrezyNclean
i dont kno bout that...they made some good points. Rich ppl r going to have access capital to invest thus giving an advantage to the top 10%, whereas your average American doesn't really have enough money from salary to invest and make a significant gain.

I was once told by a wall street trader that if you don't have at least $100,000 to invest, there's really no point (unless you tackle penny stocks or something). Based on economic statistics the average American can't afford to invest....with that being said, Americans are TERRIBLE at saving...but when we save, we hurt our economy...catch 22
i call b.s. savings rate in the u.s. is 3.7%. majority have the $ but they could careless about investments. foreigners who work at motels and then pool together money to invest are a good example of investment priorities.

btw doubt u talked to a wall street trader but they are prolly the worst ppl to ask about investing.
 07-25-2012, 09:20 PMaway - #18
ahenson
Originally Posted by getyagameup
personally, i think that the whole game is shifty. i mean, let's not get it twisted, the two oldest ways to make money in the us is either stocks or real estate. not everyone is going to know about either game, or be able to afford to play and the game itself is geared towards eliminating the competition. think about it, you want to control all the stocks or all the real estate. that's the name of the game so ultimately people are going to quit the game or get tossed (bought out, lose money, spend money in the game and then quit). that's going to leave all of the money in the hands of the few who remain in the game or have been in the game...forever...while the scraps get divided out to the rest of us. so to play, you have to play to win and someone has to lose. and then they fix the game, those funny mortgages from yrs ago, the "new" libor rate scandal........meanwhile, those who don't know or can't afford to play continue to lose cuz someone has to lose........this is the real catch 22. to get rich, or wealthy, you have to "earn" the money but someway, somehow you have to get it from somewhere, or someone. All things come to an end though. you can put air into a tire but for so long, even if you continue to patch the holes when they come. the tire tread is going to go sooner or later.....houses went...we got the stock market, student loans, health care.....they spend more on "war" than they do "peace", in all markets, and literally....the next year's time should be a really interesting one.
what is ur point?
 07-25-2012, 10:29 PMaway - #19
JerryBoBerry
[pic] You Need To Diversify Yo Bonds nicca - YouTube
 07-25-2012, 10:44 PMaway - #20
TheKastOne
bookmarked.
 
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