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 07-02-2008, 03:12 PMaway - #3021
MRS. RONDO
do they not update sunshinepreps anymore?
 07-02-2008, 03:12 PMaway - #3022
904Nole
ESPN is the worst IMO.....Just of what Book said alone.
 07-02-2008, 03:13 PMaway - #3023
904Nole
Originally Posted by Junior G
do they not update sunshinepreps anymore?
It sure dosen`t seem like it.....
 07-02-2008, 03:18 PMaway - #3024
1000bluntz
Originally Posted by booker20
I like the way espn does it but they dont check out all the recruits there is a lot of good recruits they dont get to see...
True, I just think their system for ranking is more appropriate. They do seem to be behind the 8ball on a lot of prospects though.
 07-02-2008, 03:20 PMaway - #3025
booker20
Originally Posted by Junior G
do they not update sunshinepreps anymore?
probably start back when the season starts... dude puts a lot of time into that site and doesnt get paid so i guess its back burner....
 07-02-2008, 03:59 PMaway - #3026
booker20
Knoxville (TN) Catholic offensive lineman Daniel Hood has had a busy summer so far. The 6-foot-5, 255-pound tackle spends a lot of time working out to prepare himself for his final season of high school football. But he took a break recently so he could hit the road and check out a few schools

"I have been to Virginia Tech, UCLA, and a camp in Alabama so far this summer," Hood said. "The Virginia Tech visit went really well. That is probably one of the most legendary coaches I have met so far. Of course I am going to meet Bobby Bowden so that will be another one."


Gene Williams - Warchant.com
Trickett was able to sign David Spurlock from Tennessee with the last cla#s and is hoping to do the same with Hood.
In the month of July, Hood will be back on the road and during his travels he will get the opportunity to meet Bowden, as well as some other head coaches.

"I am still hoping to visit Ole Miss, South Carolina, Florida, and Florida State," Hood said.

The three-star tackle prospect plans to visit Ole Miss sometime in the next couple weeks. After that, he will spend successive days, July 18th and 19th, at Florida and Florida State for their respective one-day camps. He will then trip to South Carolina the following weekend.

Florida's Friday Night Lights and Florida State's Showtime Camp are expected to pack in some of the best high school talent under the sun. Hood says he is really looking forward to competing and having a chance to spend time with his position coach at the respective schools.

"The big thing with attending those camps is seeing where I stand with other athletes across the nation," he said. "At Florida State I really want to go to it to meet the other coaches. I want to spend more time with Rick Trickett and work with him. I also want to see what the campus is like and getting an overall impression of how I feel about things."

Hood has been in regular contact with Trickett and is looking forward to meeting him in person in a couple weeks.

"We have talked a little about getting me down there for a visit but one of the things that I really respect about Coach Trickett is that he really isn't trying to sell the University a lot," Hood said. "He sees that the University sells itself.

"He basically wants you to see what kind of coach he is and how he is going to coach you. He tells you that he is going to make you better than you thought you were going to be. He tells you that he is going to be up in your face and cussing a little bit but he is going to make you better. I really respected that about him. He isn't one of those coaches that is going to put his arm around you and be 'Hey Buddy how are you doing?' He is going to be in your face and dog-cussing."

After his unofficial visits wrap up will Hood be ready to decide?

"I am still planning to take official visits," Hood said. "I am looking forward to those. I am really looking forward to seeing where I want to go. I haven't planned any officials yet."

In fact, Hood claims no leader and says he has yet to narrow his list. Nevertheless, he did admit that the schools he unofficially visited essentially make up his current list. He plans to use these visits to help narrow his list.

"I am going to compare and contrast them," Hood said. "I want to see if the environment is somewhere that I want to go to school. I feel like I am going to have an educated opinion about it after all these visits."

Hood will return to practice with his team later this month later this month. He recently got his ACT score, earning a 27 overall so he will have no issues qualifying.
dont matter who we get on the line trick will get it done... [pic]
 07-02-2008, 06:53 PMaway - #3027
MRS. RONDO
okay I just saw Pryor's Highlights....:wow:

let me first off slap my self for saying !! that nicca....he is a !!in monster...we gotta get him!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wow:

edit : also he should be listed as the #1 RB in the nation...or athlete I mean his DB film was nice too.

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 07-02-2008, 07:52 PMaway - #3028
904Nole
Originally Posted by Junior G
okay I just saw Pryor's Highlights....:wow:

let me first off slap my self for saying !! that nicca....he is a !!in monster...we gotta get him!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wow:

edit : also he should be listed as the #1 RB in the nation...or athlete I mean his DB film was nice too.
[pic] You talkin about Lonnie? If so then yeah, that nicca`s a handful. Best back in Florida if you asked me(well.......2nd best, J.Berry). He`s this years Manuel[pic]..
 07-02-2008, 09:47 PMaway - #3029
MRS. RONDO
mine as well add capture to CT, Downs, Jenks, Harley, Mizell and drop Ferrell

finish for Jarvis, Pryor, Starling

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they had the wrong stickers on standin next to Geno

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 07-03-2008, 05:57 AMaway - #3030
booker20
What was the most significant event of the 2007-08 sports season?

Derek: There are three top contenders for that honor - the academic scandal, the departure of Dave Hart and arrival of Randy Spetman and the announcement of Jimbo Fisher as head coach in waiting.

With the first two, it remains a wait-and-see situation. The fallout from the academic stuff, while it did impact this past season, won't truly be known until the future. That's the same with Spetman's arrival - he hasn't really made a ton of major decisions yet, though he will.

So I'm going with the Fisher announcement, because has made a major impact on and off the field. In that announcement, Florida State created st@bility in its biggest money sport where there once was little. No one knew when Bobby Bowden would retire, but they knew it was coming sooner, rather than later. Instead of allowing that uncertainty to fester (and giving rival schools a major weapon in the process), FSU made it clear who would get the big job when Bowden finally decided to call it a career.

Fisher sticking around likely means that the[..]istants who came in with him - guys like Lawrence Dawsey and Rick Trickett - will be sticking around as well. That's already paid off on the recruiting trail. FSU has verbal commitments from two Rivals100 prospects and another in the Rivals250. Debate all you want about whether FSU football had hit rock bottom. The program looks like it's on the upswing, and that announcement had a lot to do with it.


Warchant.com
Spteman's hiring was a big event for the athletic program over the past year.
Gene: I agree with Derek that all three - academic scandal, the change of ADs and Jimbo Fisher's hire as head coach in waiting - were significant events for Florida State athletics. But purely from an on the field perspective, I would say the men's track and field team winning its third straight national championship was the most significant event. With how competitive sports are these days having true dyn@sty in any sport is nearly impossible. But there's little doubt that FSU is a dyn@sty in track after getting a third straight ring. And considering that FSU was pretty much a nobody in the college track world a few years ago makes the accomplishment all the more impressive. And with coach Braman having a great recruiting cla#s coming in and him just signing a 3-year contract I don't see the dyn@sty slowing down anytime soon.

Ira:On the field, I'd go with Buster Posey's incredible season in baseball. Coming within a hair of winning the national triple crown for batting, home runs and RBIs is impressive enough. But doing it while also developing into one of the nation's best defensive catchers -- just two years removed from being a Freshman All-America shortstop - is just astounding. Throw in the fact that he's also an Academic All-American, a great team leader and just an all-around nice guy, and I think it's safe to say that FSU is going to miss him dearly.

Off the field, it's without question the Jimbo Fisher "Coach in Waiting" designation. Faced with a potentially devastating scenario - Fisher and other[..]istants bailing out on the Seminoles' restoration project - FSU's top bra#s did the right thing in giving the offensive coordinator an offer he couldn't refuse. If the Seminoles continue to improve under his watch, Fisher will be handed the keys to the castle by 2010. If they don't, he will leave FSU with a $2.5 million golden parachute. Writing that check would be a bitter pill to swallow for Seminole Boosters, but it would be far more palatable than trying to rebuild a coaching staff two months before National Signing Day. One year after the staff received an earlier overhaul.

Was there a team you felt didn't live up to expectations?

Gene: I have to go with football. After a disappointing 7-6 season in 2006 and with all the coaching changes I think everybody was looking for a turnaround, but instead we got another mediocre 7-6 season. Unfortunately, it's obvious that it is going to take more than a quick fix to get football back on track. When you take into account FSU failing to make any kind of dent in the most recent NFL draft, the average effort in 2007 is somewhat understandable. But during the preseason there was a lot of optimism - one magazine even had the 'Noles ranked in the top 10! While men's basketball was again a disappointment, Leonard Hamilton's squad having a decent season but falling just short of the NCAAs is pretty much expected so it's hard to say they fell short of expectations.

Derek: I know there were injuries and suspensions and other things that made a difference, but the men's basketball team just didn't play the way it should have. It had talent and experience, especially in the backcourt, but the team went through shocking lulls. No way should it have lost eight of 10 games in the middle of the season, nor should it have lost to Cleveland State and South Florida at the beginning of the season.

Win those two early games and two more in that 10-game stretch (Valentine's Day versus Wake Forest and January 26 versus North Carolina State both were winnable) and that's a 23-10 post-ACC Tournament record with a 9-7 regular season conference record. That probably gets you into the Big Dance. Instead, FSU lost at home to Akron in the NIT first round.

Ira: Well, this question just about sums up the dramatic shift in Florida State's athletic programs over the last few years. On the men's side, the only options you can really consider are football and basketball. Just about every other sport, from baseball to tennis to golf, had outstanding seasons. The women's programs were a little more hit or miss - with softball and basketball struggling to overcome suspensions and other issues, and volleyball continuing to flounder.

But overall, men's basketball would probably be the biggest disappointment. It's hard to say that because that group played awfully well down the stretch, winning four of its last five regular-season games and taking a first-round game in the ACC tournament. But there were too many stumbles along the way, and that NIT loss to Akron was simply dreadful. For a group with a ton of talent and experience, they didn't nearly live up to their potential.

Who do you consider FSU's top male and female athletes of the year and why?

Derek: On the men's side, you could hand it to Walter Dix as a career achievement award, but no male FSU athlete had a better season than Buster Posey. He was the runaway choice for best player in the ACC and should win every significant national player of the year award. He already has won most of them. It wasn't just the numbers that he put up, it was when he put them up. The regional home runs were huge, as was the two-run single against North Carolina in the ACC Tournament. He's the greatest FSU baseball player ever when looking at the total package of numbers, versatility and leadership.

On the women's side, Mami Yamaguchi gets kudos for winning the MAC Hermann Trophy as women's college soccer's top player, but Hannah England earns the top spot. She won NCAA championships in both the indoor and outdoor 1,500-meter run and, in winning the outdoor title, set an NCAA Championship record and earned an Olympic "A" standard time. That's dominance.


Gene Williams - Warchant.com
Yamaguchi was one of the top female performers in 2007-08.
Ira: On the men's side, it's Buster Posey in a landslide. With a slew of national Player of the Year awards on his mantle, he is college baseball's version of the Heisman Trophy winner. For years to come, there will be endless debate about how Posey's junior year stacks up with J.D. Drew's 30-30 campaign -- and you could make a strong case either way. But there's no denying that Posey delivered more than any other Seminole this year. On the women's side, I'd say Mami Yamaguchi. Like Posey, she was the nation's best player in her sport. There were many times last season that she was not only the best player on the field, but she seemed to be playing at a different level. She was a joy to watch, even for non-soccer fans.

Gene: Buster Posey all day and twice on Sunday. The junior catcher flat out dominated college baseball this past season. He has pretty much won every award possible and led the nation in two of the three major offensive categories. He was also a clutch player, a perfect team leader on and off the field and a fantastic student. It would be hard to create a more perfect student-athlete than Buster Posey. Walter Dix had a great year but unlike prior years, he didn't have to carry the track & field team on his shoulders. In fact, Bob Braman's team was able to win the ACC title without him.

As with the women, I have to go with Mami Yamaguchi. The 2007 Hermann Trophy (soccer's Heisman award) winner led the country in points (66) and finished second in goals (24) and[..]ists (18). She was a major reason why Mark Krikorian's squad made it to the national championship game for the first time in school history.
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 07-03-2008, 05:58 AMaway - #3031
booker20
The academic scandal had a significant effect on this year's sports teams. How much of an effect will it have on next year's?

Gene Outside of football, I think most of the other sports teams have already suffered through most of the academic suspensions. There may be one or two exceptions, but it sure looks like football is going to take the biggest hit this fall. And that hit could make or break the season. While the remaining three-game suspension period probably won't impact the 'Noles in games one and two (W. Carolina and UT-Chattanooga), having so many key players out of action in game three against Wake Forest could be the difference between a win and a loss. The third game against the Deacons is extremely important for a couple reasons. For one, Wake is in the Atlantic Division along with FSU and an early ACC and division loss could severely minimize the 'Noles' chances for making a run at the conference title.

A second reason why the Wake game is so important is that the biggest goal for most everybody this year, including most fans, is simply for FSU to show improvement. With the recent upgrades in the coaching staff, better talent coming to the program via recruiting and a more positive attitude surrounding the team, a third 7-6 season, or worse, would be extremely disappointing and might derail some of the accomplishments Jimbo Fisher and the new staff have made over the past year and a half. With a win over Wake, a 4-0 start is a very good possibility. If that happens, winning eight or nine games (with 10 as an outside possibility) is a very reachable goal. But if a setback might put FSU right on track for another 7-6 season.

Ira: There will be scholarship reductions in several sports, but I don't believe any of those will be so significant that they translate directly to wins or losses. Football obviously will take the biggest hit, with several players still serving suspensions at the start of the 2008 season - through the Wake Forest game in week three. On a positive note, if FSU can make it through those early games with a 3-0 record, they will be in good position to improve on last year's 7-6 mark. All of the other sports were able to dole out punishments this past season, so they likely have already cleared their toughest hurdles.

Derek: Football-wise, it will be very significant. FSU will be without several starters for the first three games and are thanking their lucky stars that two of those games are against Western Carolina and Chattanooga. As for the athletic program as a whole, the school will get a better idea, if not a complete idea, of how far-reaching the punishments will go. Florida State did a pretty good job in its self-imposed sanctions, but it remains to be seen whether the NCAA will be fully satisfied with them.

Name an athlete or two - in any sport - that FSU fans should watch for in 2008-09.

Derek: Here's a couple that might not be at the front of a lot of people's lists - men's long jumper Ngoni Makusha and men's decathlete Gonzalo Barroilhet.

Makusha won the NCAA outdoor title with what was the fourth longest jump of the year at that time. Barroilhet won the NCAA indoor heptathlon and finished third in the outdoor decathlon with a score that coach Bob Braman said would win in most years.

And here's the kicker: They're both freshmen.

Both Makusha and Barroilhet should do nothing but improve in the years to come. If that happens, that could mean two more individual outdoor titles for FSU men's track and field … and possibly another NCAA team title.

Gene: Derek has a better handle on the Olympic sports, so I'll stick to the big three. In football, look for JUCO transfer Markus White to become an instant force on the defensive line this season. In men's hoops, Chris Singleton could be one of the best recruits ever signed by Hamilton. He looks like he's physically ready to play right away. In baseball I'm not all that familiar with the incoming cla#s but know all about Kyle Long. Like his father and brothers, he is an incredible athlete and with so many holes to fill on Mike Martin's team you have to believe he will be a freshman impact player in 2009.

Ira: There are several players I'm eager to see in the Big Three sports alone. For starters, incoming freshman Chris Singleton will bring a rare air of excitement to the men's basketball team. The McDonald's All-American has great size and leaping ability, and with FSU replacing so many players from last season, Singleton will have every opportunity to make an early impact. In football, the two I can't wait to see are receivers Jarmon Fortson and Corey Surrency. If you've seen the sparkle in Jimbo Fisher's eyes when he mentions these two playmakers, you know why I feel that way. And in baseball, it's Kyle Long. I'm sure it will take Howie Long's son a little time to adjust to the college game, but I keep thinking of that monster on the mound looking down at opposing batters - and throwing from the left side, to boot. And it wouldn't be all that bad to see his parents milling around d*ck Howser either.
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 07-03-2008, 10:03 AMaway - #3032
MRS. RONDO
6. Florida State
2009 total commits: 12
Headliner: Jacobbi McDaniel
2008 cla#s rank: 9

The Seminoles are off to a solid start. Five-star defensive tackle Jacobbi McDaniel is one of the most dominating players in the nation, and offensive standouts such as four-star prospects Willie Downs, Chris Thompson and Willie Haulstead give this cla#s plenty of punch. FSU also has a pledge from arguably the nation's top kicker in Dustin Hopkins. FSU fans have to be pleased with the way things have started.

 07-03-2008, 11:25 AMaway - #3033
booker20
Back in March, Olivier Vernon said it was a done deal. He was 100 percent to Miami all the way. The four-star defensive end is still committed to the 'Canes, but now says he he's open to seeing what else is out there.

"I'm still committed to them, but I'm open to other colleges," said Vernon.

Those colleges include FSU, USF, and Alabama among others. But visiting those schools may be tough this summer. The Rivals250 member from American high school in Miami is currently hitting the books, and taking three summer school cla#ses. That doesn't leave a lot of time for travel, so the 6-foot-3, 239-pound defender may have to wait until football season begins to start making some visits.


Rivals ranks Vernon as the nation's No. 9 weaskside DE.
As for the 'Noles, they've been hot on Vernon's trail ever since the beginning of recruiting.

"I talk to Chuck Amato and the rest of the coaches," said Vernon. "They told me a lot of things, how the team is doing and how the environment is. The coaching staff is really good."

Changing his colors may not be easy. Not only does he live in South Florida, the four-star propect says he's a lifelong Hurricane fan and committed to them without visiting anyone else.

"I was always a Miami fan," said Vernon. "They were my first visit and I had never been to a college before, at the moment I felt like they were showing me the love, so I showed my commitment to them."

But a final decision will come after talking to his mother, who has a lot of influence on the decision.

"She really says wherever I want to go. It's still pretty open. I'm still picking my top five," said Vernon.

As a junior, the Rivals250 member had 52 tackles, 12.5 sacks, 18 TFL, one touchdown, four forced fumbles.

Most colleges like Florida State are looking at Vernon as a defensive end, but some would like him to line up at linebacker.

The South Florida athlete recently scored a 770 on the SAT and a 15 on the ACT. He plans to re-take both tests.
Coley at it again :applause:
 07-03-2008, 01:27 PMaway - #3034
904Nole
The top tight end target for 2009 is Orson Charles from Plant High School in Tampa, FL. The talented 4-star pa#s catcher’s recruitment has taken off since the last time NoleDigest spoke to him. NoleDigest caught up with Charles to get the latest on his recruitment where he talks visits and where the Seminoles stand at this time.

Orson Charles is rated by Scout.com as the best tight end prospect in the state of Florida for 2009. That distinction makes Charles Scout.com’s 4th best recruit at his position across the nation. Orson’s move from Riverview to Plant this past year has paid off so far as his recruitment has skyrocketed as he’s become more familiar with Aaron Murray and Plant’s scheme. With his scholarship close to 30, Orson says he’s just been soaking it all in.

“I’ve been chilling mostly,” said Charles of his recruitment. “I’m enjoying the process, and I’m up to 29 offers now from some of the best programs in the nation. I’m somewhat surprised by it all to be honest. Now that summer has started I’ve been taking a lot of visits. I’ve been to LSU, Florida, Miami, Georgia, Notre Dame, Illinois, Purdue and UCF so far. The visits were pretty good and I enjoyed myself.”

“All of the visits were even across the board. I liked LSU’s academic center. Georgia’s coaches are cool and I like Coach Richt. Aaron Murray has been saying some things here and there about me going there. I went to Miami for their camp. Randy Shannon showed me around and we talked about some stuff that I had questions about. Overall the visits helped out.”

When James Coley came to Florida State Orson was one of the guys he pegged as a target for the offensive side of the ball for this cla#s. Being that Coley would be Orson’s future position coach if were to come to FSU, Coley has been working hard recruiting the standout from Tampa. Charles told NoleDigest that so far that work has helped FSU.

“Florida State is definitely a school that I am still looking at. I’ve been there 2 times with Aaron (Murray), but I haven’t really checked it out yet. I’m not sure of the plans when I will get back there but I think I am scheduled to go to the Showtime camp later this month. I like FSU and I like Coach Coley. I’d say him, Coach Lane from LSU and Coach Pannunzio from Miami are the coaches I have the best relationships with. I know Coach Coley wants me at FSU because he sends me mail every day. With them I’ve seen enough, now I just need to get to know the coaches better and see how they use their tight ends this year. I know Coach Jimbo Fisher wants to use them more so I am going to pay attention to how he does things this year.”

Next up on Charles’ agenda is the prestigious nation 7-on-7 tournament that is being held at Oregon in a few weeks. He says while he is out there he plans on checking out some of the schools out west, then after that maybe heading home to hopefully trim his list.

“We’re going out to the 7-on-7 at Oregon soon. That’s going to be big and I am excited about that. After that I am going to the Elite 11 with Aaron so I can catch some balls. When I am out there I am going to check out USC and UCLA so I can get a feel for them and what their coaches are talking about. When I get back I am going to sit down with my mother and talk some things over so I can maybe trim my list down before the season starts. Right now all of the schools are equal so these visits are important.”

Orson isn’t sure when he’ll make his announcement as he ha toyed with the idea of making the announcement at the All-Star game he plans on playing in. Right now he is enjoying the recruiting process so look for a decision after the season. If FSU can utilize their tight ends the Charles’ satisfaction, they’ll be a major player when it comes decision time for Orson. Coach Coley has done well est@blishing the relationship, now FSU has to produce on the field. Stay tuned to NoleDigest for further updates with Orson, as well as the rest of the 2009 recruiting cla#s.
Coley`s trying but........
 07-03-2008, 02:16 PMaway - #3035
MRS. RONDO
ya'll see Robert Boswell's film? he got a chance to be good...2010



Hosey is arleady official


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 07-03-2008, 02:34 PMaway - #3036
904Nole
Originally Posted by Junior G
ya'll see Robert Boswell's film? he got a chance to be good...2010



Hosey is arleady official

Yeah, that Boswell kid played my old school last year, he`s the truth
 07-03-2008, 04:37 PMaway - #3037
MRS. RONDO
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 07-03-2008, 04:42 PMaway - #3038
904Nole
Originally Posted by Junior G
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 07-03-2008, 04:42 PMaway - #3039
904Nole
David Harding is one of the top offensive line prospects in the state of Florida this year and Scout.com caught up with the Orlando (Boone) standout to talk about the latest on the recruiting front.

"Things are going real good right now," David Harding said. "I didn't get to play in our spring game last month because of a minor back injury I was dealing with. But I practiced with the team the entire month."

Harding, 6-foot-4 and 285 pounds, has become one of the state's most heavily recruited offensive line prospects this year.

"I am up to 17 offers now," he said. "It's been great. A lot of coaches stopped by and stuff during the spring and now I'm just trying to get some of it narrowed down."

Harding talked about some of the schools on his radar.

"The top ones are UCF, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, and Vanderbilt," he said. "I also have some interest in South Carolina and Kentucky. All of those schools have offered me."

The talented big man grew up a fan of a school that hasn't given him an offer yet and he talked about that.

"I was a big Gator fan growing up," he said. "But they haven't offered me a scholarship yet and with some of their recent offensive line commitments, I'm not sure if they're going to. I'm still interested in them but they're not one of my top schools right now."

Two schools sit atop of Harding's list of favorites and he talked about them.

"I like Duke a lot and I like UCF a lot," he said. "I just visited UCF (yesterday). I like the coaching staff a lot and it's close to home. I've been to Duke a few times. I went for a game last year and I went for a visit a few weeks ago. I really like what they're doing with that program. And the academics couldn't be any better."

Harding talked about what he'll be looking for when it comes time to make a decision.

"I'll check the academics, how my relationship is with the coaches, and basically how I can contribute to the team," he said.

Inside the cla#sroom, Harding carries a 4.3 GPA and scored an 1190 on the SAT.
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 07-03-2008, 04:48 PMaway - #3040
MRS. RONDO
Originally Posted by 904Nole
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