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 The Higgs "Boson"
 07-10-2012, 08:54 AMaway - #21
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Originally Posted by daliff89


Then religion is still wrong because it doesn't say "god is energy"

You're just changing the definition of "god" to fit the newly presented evidence

That brings us back to the original point of "religion changes so it doesn't have to lose"

I could replace what u have in the quotation marks with old science theories previously known as "facts" and science could be just as "wrong"....adjusting definitions and theories due to new information doesn't make either science or religion inferior. They can both be "wrong"- were human beings after all ya know.
 07-10-2012, 01:37 PMonline - #22
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^No you couldn't.

Science has very few things that are set in stone facts, it's made to change with new discoveries.

The Bible is supposed to be the infallible word of God, it's not made to change with new discoveries. If you try to change The Bible to fit these new discoveries, you invalidate The Bible as a whole because, as it says, it is the word of God and the word of God is correct.

If you change anything, you're either admitting that The Bible isn't really the word of God or that the word of God isn't correct; either way you're saying The Bible is wrong. If the book the religion gets it's foundation from is wrong, then the religion is wrong.
 07-10-2012, 07:17 PMaway - #23
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The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.
― Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

 07-12-2012, 04:33 PMaway - #24
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Only idiots who have no understanding of science, would tout around as if this has anything to do with religion, or the origin of the universe. Just more ni##as talking more bull#### ie: this thread.

when From the article:

It is unclear that it is exactly the boson Higgs foresaw, which by bestowing mass on other matter helps explain the way the universe was ordered after the chaos of Big Bang.
You do realize the science - religion debates lies in what happened BEFORE ? A better article explaining the Higgs Boson

If you share any of the amazement of the great discoveries of science, this one will grab your attention. It's high-stakes either way: If the Higgs boson didn't appear, then particle physics couldn't explain why anything in the universe has mass -- a rather devastating shortcoming! On the other side, once we can detect signs of the Higgs field, we stand on the threshold of host of new discoveries about the fundamentals of physics.
The Higgs Boson in short is the process in which mass forms. This process took place AFTER , the debate lies BEFORE.

When they announced the discovery of physics' most elusive particle this week, scientists didn't overreach. They just did damn good science. The fans and the foes of religion, by contrast, are overreaching on both sides. The quest for the Higgs boson, and its ultimate discovery, neither proves nor disproves God.


This has nothing to do with religion:

Even more, @ Daliff you're just wrong. First and foremost, you probably should learn more than one religion before using the term as if you have the understanding of it in complete. The term "energy" is a scientific term, Hinduism and their conception of God parallels with "energy" (in the objective sense) , and even more, they discovered this "energy" before science did by at least 2000 years. But outside of that, the Higgs Boson is not the objective energy that manifested our universe , and this has nothing to do with religion.
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 07-12-2012, 06:58 PMaway - #25
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Nothing is there yet something is there and then it created something more. Yeaaa.... OK!
 07-13-2012, 05:10 AMaway - #26
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"After all, they said, the Higgs boson is the foundation on which the standard model of physics rests. Not only that; the Higgs field adds real mass to pure energy, so it's like the moment of creation." Is the book of genesis possible ? yes... Can God have created the universe in a week? according to the higs boson finding, answer is yes. I guess this is just a breakthrough scientific discovery, and not proof god exists, but doesn't disprove it..
 07-18-2012, 04:07 PMaway - #27
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The guy who coined the term "god particle" was an atheist. He wanted to call it the "Goddamn particle" because it was so elusive.

Peter Higgs ladies and gents:
 07-19-2012, 07:50 AMaway - #28
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Originally Posted by *Missy*
I could replace what u have in the quotation marks with old science theories previously known as "facts" and science could be just as "wrong"....adjusting definitions and theories due to new information doesn't make either science or religion inferior. They can both be "wrong"- were human beings after all ya know.
hmmm no wonder why you was laughing in that one thread... anyways
 07-20-2012, 04:01 PMaway - #29
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Originally Posted by DannyStr8G
This article is poorly written and confusing but basically physicist found evidence of a creator that distinguishes how much matter is implemented into the universe. Its not 100 proven yet, but in the high 99%. All you atheists better re-think exactly how much you really know bc if there is a god, which physics can prove, you better repent.
This discovery has nothing to do with god, but, I just wanted to say that if god is ever proven to exist, or if we find out god exists upon our de@th, that being will be nothing like the man made stories about supreme beings that currently haunt our world. Bet that. Bertrand Russel sums this up nicely: "And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence."

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 07-21-2012, 02:42 AMaway - #30
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Originally Posted by daliff89


It's more "religion changes so that it doesn't have to lose" than "religion wins" bro..

Religions say god created man in his image, not god created a particle that eventually created man
shutup sucker

you dont have god on your side
 07-27-2012, 10:58 AMaway - #31
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Originally Posted by daliff89


It's more "religion changes so that it doesn't have to lose" than "religion wins" bro..

Religions say god created man in his image, not god created a particle that eventually created man
 09-14-2012, 10:50 PMaway - #32
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 09-21-2012, 05:30 PMaway - #33
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theres a book that came out in 1989 that talks about them finding this, i think it even refered to it as the god particle, it was a spiritual book, and i think the thing here to gain is that, there needs to be a unification of science and religion..........
 11-19-2012, 02:28 PMonline - #34
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Originally Posted by Da Ill One
Maybe God is energy, and since humans are created out of energy and particles God did create us in his Image... God has manifested himself as a Burning Bush, a Bird and a few other inanimate objects...same for the devil...only way that's possible is if you were energy which can take on any form needed...


Again this proves nothing and Religion still wins...


Originally Posted by daliff89


Then religion is still wrong because it doesn't say "god is energy"

You're just changing the definition of "god" to fit the newly presented evidence

That brings us back to the original point of "religion changes so it doesn't have to lose"
The word "God" in the Bible means "Ahlahayam" in Hebrew which means "Power"

 
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