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Sep 5 - Cops Fire 30 Rounds Into Man's Car After "Spotting Gun," Air Soft Gun.


 Sep 5 - Cops Fire 30 Rounds Into Man's Car After "Spotting Gun," Air Soft Gun.
By illmaculate - 09-05-2012, 11:11 AM - Boxden > BX Daily Bugle - news and headlines


Police in the gritty San Francisco Bay area suburb of Vallejo shot and k!lled one man and wounded another early Sunday morning and seized about 50 Ecstasy tablets in a roadside encounter turned fatal. Mario Ramiro, 23, becomes the 45th person to die in US domestic drug law enforcement operations so far this year.

According to KTVU TV News, citing police sources, two Vallejo Police officers were on patrol about 4:30am Sunday in "an area known for recent gang-related activity" when they spotted two men sitting in a vehicle. The police turned their patrol car spotlights on the vehicle to illuminate it.

Police said the driver, Ramiro, got out of the vehicle and they saw the butt of a handgun in his waistband. Police said Ramiro, partly hidden behind the driver's door, reached for the gun and began turning toward the officers. The officers then opened fire, but Ramiro remained crouched behind the driver's door. Police said he did not comply with their demands to show his hands and instead reached toward the vehicle's center console. So they shot him some more. Police said they fired 30 rounds, and Ramiro slumped over.

Ramiro was taken to a Vallejo hospital where he died shortly thereafter. The passenger, Joseph Johnson, 21, was shot at least five times and was being treated at a hospital in Walnut Creek.

After the shooting, police searched the vehicle and found not a handgun but an airsoft pellet gun, which they had spotted in Ramiro's waistband, and more than 50 Ecstasy tablets.

Ramiro's sister, Cynquita Martin, told KTVU that she watched the shooting from inside her home and that neither man posed a threat to police. She accused police of out-of-control shooting as angry friends and family members gathered in front of the police department Sunday afternoon. Video of the aftermath showed multiple bullet holes in the vehicle's windshield.

"When I went to the window I saw him [a police officer] re-clip his gun, hop on the hood and just start firing," Martin said. “His arms was out the window. My brother is slumped in the car already."

Ramiro's mother Cynthia also said the police didn't have to use deadly force.

"The Vallejo Police Department has k!lled my son, an innocent person sitting in the car and then they're trying to make it like it's a shootout," she said. "It wasn't a shootout. The only shootout was them shooting him."

The Vallejo Police and the Solano County District Attorney's office are investigating. Vallejo Police already announced that both Ramiro and Johnson were on parole for felony weapons violations.
KTVU News Footage: VALLEJO: Family outraged at police for fatally shooting son | www.ktvu.com

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24 comments for "Sep 5 - Cops Fire 30 Rounds Into Man's Car After "Spotting Gun," Air Soft Gun."


 09-05-2012, 12:16 PMaway - #2
ItAlY2BkLyN
Sorry lady your son wasn't innocent.

Cops are wayyyy too trigger happy these days. But you gotta see it for what it is an act accordingly.

[pic] @ carrying an air soft gun around like it's real. That's nothing but trouble you don't want.

You know a deal was probably going down. Dude was probably grabbin the pills to swallow them or something.

Sucks he had to pay with his life [pic]
 09-05-2012, 02:13 PMaway - #3
hitman80v2.0
If kid got out and hide behind the driver door the only way they could have seen it is if they pulled up from the back of the car in which case he would have had to get out and walk around the door to hide behind it. Now if they pulled up from the front then they wouldn't have been able to see the gun in his waist because when he got out he would have been ducking down right behind the door. Either way it's !!ed up because the sister said she looked out the window and seen it so to get hit by the cops like that in front of your own crib and family is messed up.
 09-05-2012, 02:28 PMaway - #4
Zaner210
yea those air soft guns are no joke

when I was younger one of my friends got a gun pulled on him by a cop for playing with one in his neighborhood

he had to drop the "weapon" and put his hands up
 09-05-2012, 07:27 PMaway - #5
Boo The Fool
shouldve kept those damn hands visible and listened to what the officers were saying. any type of movement is giving them the O.K to shoot your[..] dead....they will k!ll you on the strength that you might have weapons....[pic]
 09-05-2012, 07:45 PMaway - #6
nightmare
now bx cats gonna say that even tho the he has a fake gun, the cops is wrong and was supposed to kno it was fake and shoulda tased him instead

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Last edited by nightmare; 09-05-2012 at 08:32 PM..
 09-05-2012, 08:14 PMaway - #7
e G o Maniac
Originally Posted by nightmare
now bx cats gonna say that even tho the he has a fake gun, the cops was supposed to kno it was fake and shoulda tased him instead

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It could have been made to look real, I've seen lots of fake guns that look absolutely real. I'm not saying shoot the dude thirty !!in times but why have it on him like he did? Regardless, the force was unnecessary.
 09-05-2012, 08:15 PMonline - #8
Yung Dilla
That's why the first thing i do when i get pulled over is roll the window down and put my hands out. I talk to them that way and when they as for my license and registration i use on two fingers lol
 09-05-2012, 08:31 PMaway - #9
nightmare
Originally Posted by e G o Maniac
It could have been made to look real, I've seen lots of fake guns that look absolutely real. I'm not saying shoot the dude thirty !!in times but why have it on him like he did? Regardless, the force was unnecessary.
thats what im saying, but i meant that cats on here gonna say the cops was wrong, cuz some how some way, having a real looking gun and reaching for it isnt grounds enough to fire [pic]
 09-05-2012, 09:05 PMaway - #10
Ni2
yea but when they use force like that the goal is to k!ll you. the worst thing for them would be someone surviving and testifying.
 09-05-2012, 10:16 PMaway - #11
efromthev
This happened in my city. I kid you not this is a quote straight out of the newspaper from his sister.

"And, they try to make him out to be some Ecstasy dope dealer. We got better drugs to sell."
 09-05-2012, 10:25 PMaway - #12
nightmare
Originally Posted by efromthev
This happened in my city. I kid you not this is a quote straight out of the newspaper from his sister.

"And, they try to make him out to be some Ecstasy dope dealer. We got better drugs to sell."
if thats tru then im done with society
 09-05-2012, 10:28 PMonline - #13
TheMindOf
Originally Posted by efromthev
This happened in my city. I kid you not this is a quote straight out of the newspaper from his sister.

"And, they try to make him out to be some Ecstasy dope dealer. We got better drugs to sell."
[pic]
 09-05-2012, 10:49 PMaway - #14
efromthev
No Joke. I just took a pic


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 09-05-2012, 10:49 PMaway - #15
Fras1788
It's funny how cops say drugs cause violence but if all drugs were legal there wouldn't have been any violence whatsoever. The violence was initiated by the police officers. A man lost his life over choosing to sell or do drugs and destroy his own body. I don't understand why drugs are illegal honestly. I think the government wants to keep us alive for as long as possible so we can pay the most taxes and be efficient as human beings serving the government. [pic]

Cops are the new army/swat team
 09-05-2012, 10:53 PMonline - #16
TheMindOf
Originally Posted by efromthev
No Joke. I just took a pic


[pic]
[pic]
 09-05-2012, 11:02 PMaway - #17
nightmare
Originally Posted by Fras1788
It's funny how cops say drugs cause violence but if all drugs were legal there wouldn't have been any violence whatsoever. The violence was initiated by the police officers. A man lost his life over choosing to sell or do drugs and destroy his own body. I don't understand why drugs are illegal honestly. I think the government wants to keep us alive for as long as possible so we can pay the most taxes and be efficient as human beings serving the government. [pic]

Cops are the new army/swat team
[pic] its alot deeper than that, but i see what u tryna say
 09-05-2012, 11:06 PMaway - #18
Fras1788
Originally Posted by nightmare
[pic] its alot deeper than that, but i see what u tryna say
Haha I know it's a lot deeper, but ranting while on my iPhone is hard on BX. If I wanted to explain the whole situation, I'd need pages upon pages. But I know you know what's up, and you and I are on the same page like 98% of the time...except in that Paul Ryan ex-Gf thread. [pic]
 09-05-2012, 11:36 PMaway - #19
getyagameup
Originally Posted by efromthev
This happened in my city. I kid you not this is a quote straight out of the newspaper from his sister.

"And, they try to make him out to be some Ecstasy dope dealer. We got better drugs to sell."
shorty is keeping it real. before they start trying to twist !! around.

Originally Posted by FoShizzle8
oh ok

so lets just not care about the drugs in the car,lets just get angry at the police.i mean you would think friends and family would give a !! about there friend or family member doing drugs,i guess they would rather !! about cops shooting them
my dude....you can't be !!ing serious. as if i would get more mad at my brother for popping E as compared to him getting k!lled by police. tell me you didn't just say this and that you're not the completely, retarded moron that i am thinking that you are. as if drugs are more important than a person's life. what? all people that do drugs need to get shot and die???? and it's ok. please, stop breathing. do us all a favor and let people who really need the air, have it.

Originally Posted by illmaculate

Police in the gritty San Francisco Bay area suburb of Vallejo shot and k!lled one man and wounded another early Sunday morning and seized about 50 Ecstasy tablets in a roadside encounter turned fatal. Mario Ramiro, 23, becomes the 45th person to die in US domestic drug law enforcement operations so far this year.

According to KTVU TV News, citing police sources, two Vallejo Police officers were on patrol about 4:30am Sunday in "an area known for recent gang-related activity" when they spotted two men sitting in a vehicle. The police turned their patrol car spotlights on the vehicle to illuminate it.

Police said the driver, Ramiro, got out of the vehicle and they saw the butt of a handgun in his waistband. Police said Ramiro, partly hidden behind the driver's door, reached for the gun and began turning toward the officers. The officers then opened fire, but Ramiro remained crouched behind the driver's door. Police said he did not comply with their demands to show his hands and instead reached toward the vehicle's center console. So they shot him some more. Police said they fired 30 rounds, and Ramiro slumped over.

Ramiro was taken to a Vallejo hospital where he died shortly thereafter. The passenger, Joseph Johnson, 21, was shot at least five times and was being treated at a hospital in Walnut Creek.

After the shooting, police searched the vehicle and found not a handgun but an airsoft pellet gun, which they had spotted in Ramiro's waistband, and more than 50 Ecstasy tablets.

Ramiro's sister, Cynquita Martin, told KTVU that she watched the shooting from inside her home and that neither man posed a threat to police. She accused police of out-of-control shooting as angry friends and family members gathered in front of the police department Sunday afternoon. Video of the aftermath showed multiple bullet holes in the vehicle's windshield.

"When I went to the window I saw him [a police officer] re-clip his gun, hop on the hood and just start firing," Martin said. “His arms was out the window. My brother is slumped in the car already."

Ramiro's mother Cynthia also said the police didn't have to use deadly force.

"The Vallejo Police Department has k!lled my son, an innocent person sitting in the car and then they're trying to make it like it's a shootout," she said. "It wasn't a shootout. The only shootout was them shooting him."


The Vallejo Police and the Solano County District Attorney's office are investigating. Vallejo Police already announced that both Ramiro and Johnson were on parole for felony weapons violations.

KTVU News Footage:

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ok. hold the !! up. the story just don't make sense. dude got out the car they seen the gun in his waistband. they told him not to move he starts making a move towards them they start to fire....he slumps over.....then they shot out the windshield and hit the other nicca in the car 5 times too??? no mention of what he did.

ok, questions.....so these cops get threatened and fire at the dude crouching door behind the door and hit the windshield and the other dude with any of those shots???? niccas need to hit up the gun range.....a car door is a big !!ing target.....they had guns drawn, time to aim and spotlights trained on these niccas so they could see everything. gtfoh with 30 shots and some hitting the windshield when the only threat was the dude behind the big[..] door. niccas can't shoot or they were aiming for the car OR LIKE SHORTY SAID THE COP JUMPED ON THE HOOD, RELOADED AND STARTED FIRING INTO THE WINDSHIELD.......that visual just looks crazy.

so the found the gun in the car after the shooting??? that what it looks like it said but they said that he had it in his waistband so got out with the gun in his waistband and crouch behind the door only to throw it back into the car??? and then not put his hands up if he did all that???? one would think that he's about to fire on these cats if that's the case, no??? that doesn't make sense. if he got out and crouched down, i would think he was going to buck and start firing, no??? he got out with it in his waistband and threw the gun back in to the seat only to then get lit up, and didn't give up before they lit him up because apparently, he didn't have the air gun on him, right??? am i missing something so far anyone??

so they shot the nicca...he didn't comply because they shot him so that warranted more shots because he prolly tried to get back into the car after getting hit a few times, he must not be dead yet. that must have been the time when they shot at the windshield to make sure everyone was dead.

i don't know....the sister said the cop jumped on the car and shot into the windshield....there's no mention of that from the police...can we check the hood for foot imprints or some other CSI !!???

hey, dude had an airgun that looks like a real gun. can understand the perceived threat. however, the story just don't sound right and you have the sister saying the cops jumped on top of the car and the mother saying that she doesn't think the k!ll is justified....that her son wasn't threatening them.....but i guess, the drugs and air pellet gun justify it enough. cops get to k!ll more minorities. i wonder what the repercussions will be, if any. this !! is becoming ridiculous already though. new training tactics or something has to be tried. this is getting worse and worse. [pic][pic]
 09-06-2012, 12:34 AMaway - #20
Boo The Fool
Originally Posted by efromthev
no joke. I just took a pic


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woooooooooooooooooooooooow
 
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