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Sep 19 - Four cops punished for tossing around football with young boy at Bronx housing project

 Sep 19 - Four cops punished for tossing around football with young boy at Bronx housing project
topic by jlandryst - 09-19-2011, 11:51 AM - Boxden > BX Daily Bugle - news and headlines

Even before the NYPD was embroiled in a dustup over dirty dancing, four cops got caught up in a Fourth of July football-throwing fiasco, the Daily News has learned.

Two of the officers are f!ghting the discipline raps they received for tossing around a football with a young boy at a Bronx housing project - charging oversensitivity from police brass jeopardizes community relations.

"I don't think throwing a football to a 7-year-old boy is misconduct," said Officer Catherine Guzman, a 17-year veteran of the force. "It was the Fourth of July, it was 96 degrees out and we were interacting with the community.

"Everybody was happy," she added.

That is, everybody except Deputy Chief James McNamara, the commanding officer of the Bronx Housing Bureau. He witnessed the football tossing and gave the cops a dressing-down worthy of Vince Lombardi.

"He was irate and berated us in front of everyone," Guzman recalled. "He said, 'What are you doing? Do you realize you are on overtime?'"

News of the football caper comes on the heels of controversy over cops videotaped dancing and gyrating during the annual West Indian American Day Carnival Parade. Police officials are reviewing the tape of the Labor Day weekend incident, which shows cops happily grinding their hips into the backsides of scantily clad dancers at the Brooklyn parade.

The four officers involved in the 2010 football-throwing incident at the Webster Houses were slapped with command disciplines, and two accepted a penalty of two vacation days.

But Guzman and Officer Mariana Diaz are appealing the ruling and taking their case to the department trial room.

Both face significantly stiffer penalties if they are found guilty of charges that they "did fail and neglect to remain alert, to wit: throwing and catching a football with three uniformed members of service...while maintaining a foot post."

Their lawyer, Eric Sanders, said the NYPD needs to rethink its definition of community policing.

"I think the Police Department prefers its officers to be an occupying force rather than interacting with the community it serves," Sanders said.

NYPD spokesman Paul Browne did not respond to a request for comment.

Diaz said she's taking a stand on principle.

"There's a lot of negativity toward police," she said. "I want kids in the community to look at us in a positive way."

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26 comments for "Sep 19 - Four cops punished for tossing around football with young boy at Bronx housing project"

 09-19-2011, 12:02 PMaway - #2
Rico23 15 heat pts15

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I guess if they woulda threw a couple slugs to these kids' chest all would be well in their eyes
 09-19-2011, 12:04 PMaway - #3
shoeprano27 22 heat pts22

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cops just tryna interact with kids and this is what they get? smh....
 09-19-2011, 12:44 PMonline - #4
P-Hill|M 18 heat pts18

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Originally Posted by Rico23
I guess if they woulda threw a couple slugs to these kids' chest all would be well in their eyes
Nah mean?

So a$s backwards
 09-19-2011, 02:08 PMaway - #5
stogz 9 heat pts

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If they mistook the boy's football for a gun, and lit up the kid..... they be back to work the next day with no problems at all
 09-19-2011, 02:20 PMaway - #6
hood135 2 heat pts

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Heaven forbid they treat human beings like human beings every once in a while. I ####ing hate the police.
 09-19-2011, 03:04 PMaway - #7

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This that bull####!! They were just trying to interact with the community in a positive way. I always hear from old folks how when they were young, they knew most of the cops that worked in the area by first names and not because they were arresting people like crazy. It was like they were apart of the neighborhood and folks could actually go to them with problems. Now cops dont do any of that #### but when they do they get penalized?!?! BS
 09-19-2011, 03:30 PMaway - #8

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all the while, the little boy was paid off by some crooks to distract the cops with some "hey u wanna play some ball? all my friends left me" type ####

meanwhile, something is going on while they arent looking...a purse snatching, someone got knocked upside the head, stuff like that

its a lose lose, u get disciplined by the force for spending time on the clock "horseplaying"....or the community continues to hate you and shoot at you.

i understand y the bossman would be angry, but to actually penalize them is outlandish. just tell them to get back to work and keep it moving.
 09-19-2011, 03:50 PMaway - #9

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Jesus Christ, this can't be real. This ####boy of a Deputy is on a whole different planet. Those Cops actually sound like cool guys, but I guess they should have unloaded 4 magazines into the little guy and everything would be cool.
 09-19-2011, 03:55 PMaway - #10
davilla24c 10 heat pts10

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 09-19-2011, 04:35 PMaway - #11
superdrunken 5 heat pts

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#### jake
 09-19-2011, 04:41 PMaway - #12
riga89 6 heat pts

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This is what's wrong with the NYPD, they focus more on the BS, then the real problems we have. Smh.....
 09-19-2011, 04:48 PMaway - #13
HeyCobra 7 heat pts

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back in the day cops walked beats, and talked to the community, and all was well in the world.

people wonder why no crimes get solved and ####, cause everyone is afraid of cops, and afraid of the community, but there was a time when cops and citizens where friendly and respected each other.
 09-19-2011, 05:21 PMaway - #14
LaRy BLanco 458 heat pts458

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and I dont even like cops but I dont understand punishing them for doing somethin positive

tossin a football with some kid>>>>>>police brutality
 09-19-2011, 05:59 PMaway - #15

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WOW!, whats next -"Moved over old lady POLICE coming through"
 09-19-2011, 07:19 PMaway - #16
SomeOnesoN 135 heat pts135

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"I think the Police Department prefers its officers to be an occupying force rather than interacting with the community it serves," Sanders said.

Enough of this police state. End the Fed. Vote Ron Paul 2012
 09-19-2011, 07:46 PMaway - #17
S7R 16 heat pts16

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Well if this isnt an obvious way to show you that police are just encouraged to arrest you and nothing else I don't know what is.
 09-19-2011, 08:29 PMaway - #18
S0ap 19 heat pts19

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they were on the clock so they pretty much can't ####. its their job to be on guard at all times. and as a boss, if he didnt reprimand them then other cops would be on some "johnson and jones were playing football the other day and you didn't tell them anything. why can't I play video games on the clock?"
 09-19-2011, 08:33 PMaway - #19
Kontrast0 37 heat pts37

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 09-19-2011, 08:41 PMaway - #20
super vILLain 4 heat pts

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I hate the overall police system and most police in general but there's some of them that really sign up to help people and do good. But the people in charge only care about numbers, whether it's money or arrests.

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