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 Oct 17 - Russia's Putin : "Iran Is Not Afraid" Of US, Israel "Believe Me"
 10-18-2007, 05:59 PMaway - #41
Soprano ATL
i wonder how many of ya'll even have a middle school intelligence? none of you apparently
 10-18-2007, 06:26 PMaway - #42
j-ro23
Originally Posted by utdpridah
i wonder how many of ya'll even have a middle school intelligence? none of you apparently
..........enlighten us then
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 10-18-2007, 07:08 PMaway - #43
Cutty Olds
Originally Posted by CenterField
i wish Michael Jackson would go on a world tour and end this madness
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 10-18-2007, 07:10 PMaway - #44
Sheeed
Originally Posted by j-ro23
..........enlighten us then
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 10-18-2007, 07:11 PMaway - #45
Cutty Olds
Originally Posted by RealWorldSht
Are you literate?

Its obvious you don't even have a clue what they're saying.

They're not siding with Russia/China in a war against the U.S.

They're siding with Russia/China in preventing WW3.

They're siding with Putin's view that theres no need for the U.S to go to Iran.


You do know that the U.N nuclear weapons inspectors (IAEA) havn't even presented their report on Iran's nuclear programme to the U.N..

I.e. America has no facts regarding Iran having nukes.

Iran has had 100% transparency with their nuclear aspirations (energy) with the IAEA, and even the chief inspector of the IAEA doesn't believe Iran has or could build nuclear weapons..

And seriously whats the big deal?

If Iran did want a nuclear b0mb, they'd have it, they'd just buy one off Russia, China or Pakistan.



If the U.S calms down and lets this !! dissolve peacefully through the U.N nuclear inspection authority (IAEA) then investigators can look into Iran, see what they're doing and clear this mess up.

This is what the head of the IAEA is saying, what Iran is saying, what Putin is saying, and what the majority of the world is saying!

No-one except the U.S wants to see another Iraq fiasco..


So why is the U.S is pushing so hard to make Iran look bad, and justify itself in a pre-emptive attack?

~ The U.S just wants to secure another piece of the middle-east so it has all the oil supply on lock-down, and build more bases in the desert.



Russia / China have said they've got Iran's back because they have billion dollar deals in place with Iran. They will protect their investments!

Do you seriously think they're going to allow the U.S to go b0mb / invade Iran, let USA steal iranian oil then loose out on those contracts..

Also if China losses a friendly Iran to America, for the rest of time, America will have a greater advantage over China in military application, as it would have secured the majority of the worlds oil supply...

China will not allow the U.S to get that big of advantage over it.. particularly if its not even justifable in the first place (Iran not having nukes)..

If America uses the same strategy on Iran as Iraq, then China losses access to its 'friendly oil supplier', and America has monopoly on 80% of the worlds oil supply (saudi, Iraq, Iran)



Its not Russia / Iran vs the Coalition..

The countries opposing a pre-emptive American attack on Iran are:

Iran
Russia
China
Pakistan
India

^^ (Theres most the world population)

The majority of countries ending in 'stan'

Some small gulf states and no doubt Syria.


Also the following countries want no part in a war (of similar style of Iraq) on Iran:

Australia
Britain
France


If America hits Iran, its flying solo this time.[/quote]
This is what is called an OUTSTANDING !!ing point!
:applause:
 10-18-2007, 07:18 PMaway - #46
benihana
Originally Posted by chuckdirty
this is y u never talk politics or religon
co-sign.... [pic]
 10-18-2007, 08:08 PMaway - #47
LitO
We need to get these ma!!as out of office, they're trynna to get alot of people k!lled for no reason. over what?
 10-18-2007, 08:49 PMaway - #48
tdawg69
ight ive been in the Marines now for 6 years!
1st= if we go there will be a draft and alot of stuff will get waivered for draftees like weed, one felonies , etc.

2nd= taxes will go up and we pay alot now

3rd= it will start a civil war here{ look at how divided we are on Iraq} this will be the start of million year war.

4th= pray that the God of your choice allows a peacfull outcome weve already lost almost 4,000 lives in Iraq.
 10-18-2007, 08:58 PMaway - #49
Jimbo
It's all of our own faults. We (the public) sat around caring about sports, music, and other irrelevent things while corrupt piece of !! mother!!ers slowly took over this great country...
 10-19-2007, 12:22 AMaway - #50
kgsunnyvale4080
Iran is not !!ing with the U.S, neither is Russia. Period.
 10-19-2007, 01:20 AMaway - #51
iThink
Originally Posted by chuckdirty
this is y u never talk politics or religon
From personal experience, the only people who tend to get angry over these two are those who have a hidden thoughts that what they believe either is or could be wrong.

If you can respect others opinions, you can have a civilized conversation about politics or religion.
 10-19-2007, 02:52 AMaway - #52
Adamxxx
Originally Posted by goldgrill910
aside from your spelling error, common scientific knowledge? your talking out your[..] for real with that quote. germany's occupation over france would NOT make the united states a nazi state...ever.
dummy.
homie

do some research in history

hitler had the largest array of tanks ever[..]embled
if he had gotten them to the beach in time that[..]ault would have tanked

the allies would have been defeated right there

and i know i cant say we'd be nazi's for sure since it didnt go that way
but with the power hitler would have[..]umed via a victory, its not too far fetched in my opinion
 10-19-2007, 02:54 AMaway - #53
Adamxxx
Originally Posted by NOCCOWT
why dont u just join the army and help your country out
die for a war i/the majority of my country doesnt believe in?

in that case im not backing my COUNTRY idiot

im backing the people behind the WAR...
 10-19-2007, 03:29 AMaway - #54
GURBINA1
WOW FIRST OF NOTHING IS NEW USA WOULD END IRAN IN HEART BEAT IRAN IS IN THE MIDDLE OF IRAQ AND AFGHAN SO THATS OVER.

NOW WHAT ALL OF YOU FAILED TO SEE SINCE DAY ONE WAS JR BUSH IS DOING WHAT SR BUSH COULDNT WHAT THE OLD REPUBLICAN COULDNT DO COUSE THEY DIDNT HAVE A 911 TO BACK THEM UP THE COUNTRY WAS BANGED UP FROM VNAM. WAR FEVER WAS LOW CITIZENS WOULD NOT APPROVE A WAR ON IRAN AT THAT MOMENT OLD REPUBLICANS SAW ONE THING AND THAT THE SAME THING RUSSIA AND CHINA SEE AN OCEAN OF OIL ENERGY THEY CALL IT AND THATS WHY THEY BACK IRAN CAUSE IF YOU ROLL WITH USA NO OIL THEY SAW THAT WHEN THEIR RECENT DEALS WENT SOUR CAUSE THE USA WENT INTO IRAQ.

DO YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT PART? OK KEEP IT MOVIN

SO SINCE WE COULDNT GO TO WAR BACK THEN WHAT DID WE DO WE HELPED THEIR NEIGHBOR WHO WAS ALREADY IN WAR WE HELPED A YOUNG MAN NAME SADDAM FROM A COUNTRY NAMED IRAQ. WE GAVE HIM WEAPONS WE SUPPLIED HIM HOPING HE COULD WIN BUT FAILED.

THEN WHAT HAPPEN MAN SOMEONE SAT DOWN AND SAID MAN IRAQ HAS SOME OIL AND IS A NEIGHBOR OF THE OCEAN THAT WE CAN GET LETS WAIT TILL HE !!S UP HE DID INVATED SMALL COUNTRY THAT WE DIDNT REALLY GAVE A !! AND WE WENT TO WAR PEOPLE DIDNT APPROVE SO THEY PULLED THE PLUG ...

BUSH JR GOT IN THE MAIN SEAT WITH DADDY BEHIND HIM YEARS PAST A 911 THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED GOT EVERYONE SAYIN !! TERRORIST LETS GO TO WAR LETS HIT THAT 10TH WOLRD COUNTRY AFGHANISTAN THEIR ON THE OTHER SIDE WE CAN GET IN POSITION FOR THE BIG PICTURE THE REST U ALREADY KNOW

YOU CANT SAY NO BUSH WONT APROVE ANYTHING THAT COST MORE MONEY THEN WAR...

WE CAN FUND WAR BUT OUR KIDS CANT GET HEALTH CARE?

WHAT HAPPEN TO THE SURPLUS CLINTON LEFT?

WHAT HAS BUSH DONE TO HELP WIT THE NEW DEBT?

PROP IF U FEEL THE SAME......
 10-19-2007, 03:33 AMaway - #55
RealWorldSht
^^ Please don't write in capitals, !!ing hard to read. Give me ten mins to re-read.

Ok I feel what your saying.

But your history is a little out..

It started back before 1953. The Iranians wanted their Oil back, and nationalised their oil fields (owned by British Oil Companies)...

This pissed off the Brits who called up America and the C.I.A overthrew the govt. and put in the Shah of Iran (very brutal dictator)..

Later in 79, the people overthrew him..

America wasn't happy, cos it lost the oil again, so they sided with Sadam, armed him, and sent his republican guard in there, who got completely nailed..

Pissed at Sadam and still short of oil, they wait it out.

Sadam gets greedy, attacks Kuwait (and is now close to Saudi Arabia).

America protects it Saudi investment and fights back

The people don't want a war, so they wait til after 9/11..


Now they're in the region, they have local bases, theyre planning on attacking Iran.

But Iran ain't as easy as people think it is..


Iran saw what happened to Iraq (got the ish b0mbed out of it).. and built most of its defence infrastructure underground..

Plus has mobile anti-air, Russia jet fighters and some pretty mean missles..

They also got a sizable army that would cause mass casualties against the U.S Marines.. (in the 10's of thousands)...


The stupid neocons think they can win this war.. despite the generals telling them otherwise..

Whats interesting is if Bush, or possibly Giuiliani tries it, the generals might revolt and declare martial law..

And have a fair election for once..

Last edited by RealWorldSht; 10-19-2007 at 03:40 AM..
 10-19-2007, 04:45 AMaway - #56
goldgrill910
Originally Posted by Adamxxx
homie

do some research in history

hitler had the largest array of tanks ever[..]embled
if he had gotten them to the beach in time that[..]ault would have tanked

the allies would have been defeated right there

and i know i cant say we'd be nazi's for sure since it didnt go that way
but with the power hitler would have[..]umed via a victory, its not too far fetched in my opinion
i know about his tanks, but do you know the reason they didn't get there on time?

do some research on why we get involved anyway. it wasn't because of pearl harbor. prior to that we had a COUPLE of our US naval ships sank by the Germans. that didn't prompt us to join.
it was about the United States interests overseas. us helping france was really helping great britain...think of the influence and power gained in Europe because of our support in the war. research our influence prior to and after the war and compare them.
 10-19-2007, 05:23 AMaway - #57
jataylorlfc
Originally Posted by goldgrill910
i know about his tanks, but do you know the reason they didn't get there on time?

do some research on why we get involved anyway. it wasn't because of pearl harbor. prior to that we had a COUPLE of our US naval ships sank by the Germans. that didn't prompt us to join.
it was about the United States interests overseas. us helping france was really helping great britain...think of the influence and power gained in Europe because of our support in the war. research our influence prior to and after the war and compare them.
hitlers tanks didnt get there because of logistcial reasons and of course hitlers paranoia and subsequent desire to controll every arm of his forces.

whoa whoa whoa. ur "help and support" during the war consisted mostly of over priced arms sales. the russians and the british were the winners of the war, america basicly turned up 4 the cleanup and acted like theyd lost millions and saved the day. schools over there need 2 teach this.

exaclty, americas influence and muscle was relatively puny back then, but still if they hadnt joined the war effort and the allies had lost they would be easy pickings for an army now consisting of russian and european forces, even without them the united states would have proved easy ground for the germans used 2 invading hardened eastern european countries, then going 2 a land of inexperienced soldiers, flat planes of land, separated communities and little comparative force in a military sense.

but i doubt that wouldve ever happened as an invasion of britain was often considered and abandoned because of the difficulty in both landing,containing and eliminating a resistance.

o and every1 knows the russians are always 1st to tap out.....[pic]
 10-19-2007, 05:30 AMaway - #58
goldgrill910
Originally Posted by jataylorlfc
no but if the germans had defeated britain and russia
that is the only way that could ever happen. but even saying that, the countries that germany had occupied from war, weren't fighting for hitler. that's key when you talk of fighting, winning, AND occupying the united states.
germany would have to conquer canada and mexico prior to invading the united states anyway. germany had a !! little naval fleet. they weren't gonna flood our borders on u-boats...
 10-19-2007, 06:10 AMaway - #59
Steve--O
WW3 getting closer and closer
 
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