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Jan 9 - Two Pro Gun Advocates Found Dead


 Jan 9 - Two Pro Gun Advocates Found Dead
topic by TB - 01-09-2013, 01:07 PM - Boxden > BX Daily Bugle - news and headlines


Coincidence or not?
Two pro-gun advocates have been found dead.

The business partner of the guy who did those fake Russian accent Youtube gun videos as "Dmitri" has been found with a single gunshot wound to the head. He'd been dead for some time when they found him. The police are calling it a homicide, until they learn more.

John Noveski, owner of Noveski Rifleworks, also just died in a car crash, veering off the road without wearing a seatbelt and crashing into some rocks.

I'm not saying they were Breitbarted, because I don't have enough information. Just, if you're vocally pro-2nd Amendment and you have a big following, keep your eyes open, just in case, and listen to your spidey senses. We don't need any more casualties in the "Infowar".

Penny Pincher Personal Finance: Two Pro Gun Advocates Found Dead


Keith Ratliff Dead: FPSRussia YouTube Channel Producer Shot In Apparent Homicide, Georgia Police Say

A producer behind a popular gun enthusiast YouTube channel was found dead with a single gunshot wound to the head at his business last week.

Police in Georgia are investigating the apparent homicide of Keith Ratliff, a 32-year-old Franklin County resident.

"It's really heartbreaking, and everything I see, or any kind of memorable thing -- I mean, I just break down," Amanda Ratliff, the victim's wife, told MyFoxAtlanta. "He had such a life to live, and such a good life to live, and things to look forward to."

Authorities found multiple weapons at the scene of the crime, some manufactured by Ratliff himself, WSBTV reports. Investigators have not identified a motive.

Ratliff worked mostly behind the scenes to produce videos for the YouTube channel FPSRussia, a site dedicated to showcasing high-power firearms. FPSRussia -- which commands nearly 3.5 million subscribers and has generated over 500,000 page views is one of the top 10 channels ranked on YouTube.

In addition to his contributions to FPSRussia, Ratliff also worked for FPS Industries, a company focussing on "product development and testing for hard use firearms shooters," according to its website. FPS Industries is located in Carnesville, Ga.

Ratliff was known as an outspoken gun advocate. In a message posted to Twitter on Aug 11, 2012, he wrote: "I went to the movies with my pistol in my pocket the whole time I was praying that somebody would try to pull a Batman!"

Kitty Wandel, a manager and producer for FPSRussia, released a brief statement regarding Ratliff's passing:

As it seems to be leaking out I will confirm to save more messages and questions coming to me. As I am sure most of you know Keith Ratliff has been with the FPS Russia channel for quite some time now, helping us out with everything from pulling pranks to finding almost impossible weapons to use in videos. It saddens me to confirm that he was indeed found having passed away here in Georgia on Thursday. I do ask for some privacy right now as you can imagine it has shocked us all and our main thoughts and concerns lay with his family right now. Thank you for understanding.

Ratliff had recently moved to northern Georgia for work. His wife and 2-year-old son remain in Kentucky.

Keith Ratliff Dead: FPSRussia YouTube Channel Producer Shot In Apparent Homicide, Georgia Police Say


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 01-09-2013, 02:17 PMaway - #2
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i dont believe in coincidence

 01-09-2013, 05:27 PMaway - #3
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Yeah I was hearing about this. Crazy.
 01-09-2013, 05:37 PMonline - #4
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they got shot?
 01-09-2013, 05:52 PMaway - #5
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Whats the saying? "You live by the gun, You die by the gun"?
 01-09-2013, 09:49 PMonline - #6
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By the looks of it he wanted someone to go at him with a gun, praying for someone to shootup a theater just so he could use his own weapon

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 01-09-2013, 09:50 PMaway - #7
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Guns couldn't stop this first page
 01-09-2013, 09:57 PMaway - #8
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And it begins so. Yeesssssss.
 01-09-2013, 09:58 PMaway - #9
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smh at these conspiracy !!s. "Breitbarted"? you mean had a !!ing heart attack because he was so damn angry and seeing conspiracies around every corner?
 01-09-2013, 10:00 PMaway - #10
varcitykid 6 heat pts

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Lemme guess.... Another 'Conspiracy' huh
 01-09-2013, 10:07 PMaway - #11
Wood Grain 4 heat pts

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There is no such thing as coincidence!!! All y'all ignorant !!s are going to saying...."Damn I should have to listened to the crazy guy" sooner or later.

Crazy thing is obama announced he doesn't want to wait for congress and might ban guns by executive order!!!
 01-09-2013, 10:13 PMaway - #12
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Originally Posted by Wood Grain
There is no such thing as coincidence!!! All y'all ignorant !!s are going to saying...."Damn I should have to listened to the crazy guy" sooner or later.

Crazy thing is obama announced he doesn't want to wait for congress and might ban guns by executive order!!!
Nobody is banning "guns". You make it sound like they're outlawing all forms of guns everywhere, and are going to be locking people up for not giving them up. that !! ain't happening and your conspiracy nut a$s knows it.

If anything it's an a$sault weapon ban, which SHOULD happen, but more than likely nothing will happen because the Government is too !! to go up against the piece of !! NRA
 01-09-2013, 10:14 PMaway - #13
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the thumbnail to this thread is alex jones don't play with me like that ronnie
 01-09-2013, 10:19 PMaway - #14
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Originally Posted by conscious thug
Nobody is banning "guns". You make it sound like they're outlawing all forms of guns everywhere, and are going to be locking people up for not giving them up. that !! ain't happening and your conspiracy nut a$s knows it.

If anything it's an a$sault weapon ban, which SHOULD happen, but more than likely nothing will happen because the Government is too !! to go up against the piece of !! NRA
per CNN aka Communist news network


source:

On Wednesday night, Piers Morgan goes one-on-one with firearms lobbyist Larry Pratt over guns in America. "Piers Morgan Tonight" airs nightly at 9 ET.

(CNN) -- President Barack Obama is exploring executive orders to help prevent mass shootings in America, Vice President Joe Biden said Wednesday.

"The president is going to act. Executive orders, executive action, can be taken," Biden told reporters before meetings with groups representing survivors of mass shootings. "We haven't decided what this is yet, but we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and all the rest of the Cabinet members."

Legislative action also is needed, Biden said.
"I'm convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of Americans, and take thousands of people out of harm's way, if we act responsibly," he said.

VA Tech survivor on gun violence meeting Biden: Gun effort a 'moral issue'
President Obama vowed last month that a new task force overseen by Biden will provide "concrete proposals" by the end of January to reduce gun violence. The group, which includes an array of Cabinet members and government officials, was est@blished in the wake of the massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, that left 27 people dead -- 20 of them elementary school children.

In addition to gun laws, the group is looking at mental health care and what the president has described as a culture that often "glorifies guns and violence."
CNN iReport: The gun control debate

Biden's brief remarks Wednesday came before what will likely be some of the most emotional testimony before the task force.

We can... take thousands of people out of harm's way, if we act responsibly.
Vice President Joe Biden

Among those addressing the group to push for tougher gun laws is Colin Goddard of the Brady Campaign. He was shot four times in the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre, in which a gunman k!lled 32 people and himself.

"My job is to represent the voice of the overwhelming majority of Americans ... that want some comprehensive, common sense changes to our gun policy," he told CNN Wednesday. "There are common ground solutions that respect the Second Amendment."

Many gun sales take place without background checks, and "that's bad policy," he argues. Conducting such checks "doesn't stop a law-abiding citizen from getting a gun. But somebody with a history of illness, felony record, they need to get checked."
The campaign's phones have been "ringing off the hook" since the Newtown massacre, he said.

Reaction to Newtown school k!llings

The task force will also hear from gun safety organizations Wednesday.
Where do you stand? Weigh in on Twitter

Gun lobby faces challenge
On Thursday, Biden's group will hear from the other side: gun rights groups, including the National Rifle a$sociation.

The NRA has argued that it is committed to keeping people protected, but that a focus on stricter gun control is misguided.

NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre has called for all U.S. schools to have armed guards
NRA President David Keene later told CNN the group supports schools choosing whether they want armed guards.

A rising chorus of voices is standing up against the NRA and the gun lobby's sway over U.S. politics.

Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, shot in the head in a mass shooting two years ago, and her husband Mark Kelly, a former Navy captain and astronaut, launched a new political action committee Tuesday to end what they called lawmakers' "fear" of the gun lobby.
White House responds to petition to deport Piers Morgan

Alex Jones: Don't dare take our guns

CNN's Piers Morgan has also garnered attention for speaking out against the influence of the gun lobby and pushing stricter gun control, which led more than 100,000 people to sign a petition on the White House website calling for him to be deported.
"Let's not let arguments over the Constitution's Second Amendment violate the spirit of its First," White House spokesman Jay Carney wrote in a response Wednesday.
"Americans may disagree on matters of public policy and express those disagreements vigorously, but no one should be punished by the government simply because he or she expressed a view on the Second Amendment -- or any other matter of public concern," Carney added.

Carney's response did not mention Morgan by name.

Wal-Mart changes tune, will attend White House meeting

The nation's largest retailer, meanwhile, made news for reversing a decision -- and saying it will participate in a White House meeting.

Wal-Mart initially said scheduling conflicts would prevent its "experts" on gun control from attending. But on Wednesday it announced it will send representatives to the Thursday meeting.

The company has had "ongoing conversations with the administration, Congress, (New York) Mayor (Michael) Bloomberg's office, sportsmen groups, suppliers and others to listen and share our thoughts and experiences," company spokesman David Tovar said in a statement to CNN.

"Knowing our senior leaders could not be in Washington this week, we spoke in advance with the vice president's office to share our perspective," he said. "We underestimated the expectation to attend the meeting on Thursday in person, so we are sending an appropriate representative to participate."

Wal-Mart sells guns and ammunition.
The future of gun laws: Weigh in on Facebook

States, cities make their own moves
L.A. gun buyback yields rocket launchers

Across the country, people are sharing their views on what Washington should decide. Among them are Californians who have packed town hall meetings.
Some have spoken out in support of renewing a ban on a$sault weapons -- high-capacity weapons that have been used in numerous mass shootings. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat, is pushing to reinstate a ban that expired in 2004.
But others at the town halls argue that banning those guns isn't the answer, and could even be a slippery slope toward banning all guns.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, in his annual State of the State address, said Wednesday his state must enact "the toughest a$sault weapons ban in the nation, period."
"Gun violence has been on a rampage as we know first hand and we know painfully. We must stop the madness, my friends," he said. "It has been enough."
Bloomberg, a longtime advocate of stricter gun control, is pushing for tough steps nationwide.

In Connecticut, Gov. Dannel Malloy choked up discussing the Newtown shooting, and said "more guns are not the answer."
"Freedom is not a handgun on the hip of every teacher and security should not mean a guard posted outside every classroom," he said Wednesday in the State of the State address.

Hoover: 'We do not need more guns'
Burlington, Vermont, a city of less than 43,000 people, has already made a move of its own: passing a resolution that could lead to a ban on a$sault rifles and high-capacity magazines.

The city council voted 10-3 in favor of the resolution, which will now be presented in public hearings and voted on by the public before going to the state legislature.
Amid the cacophony of voices battling over the issue, two young former Marines have found themselves in a spotlight online, representing very different views.
First, Joshua Boston posted on CNN iReport an open letter to Feinstein explaining why he would not abide by an a$sault weapons ban. "I do not believe it is the government's right to know what I own," he wrote in the post, which went viral. "Nor do I think it prudent to tell you what I own so that it may be taken from me by a group of people who enjoy armed protection yet decry me having the same a crime."
On Tuesday, Nick DiOrio responded with his own iReport. Marines don't believe in following the law "only when it suits us," DiOrio wrote, calling Boston's letter "embarrassing because he makes Marines seem insensitive and uncaring." DiOrio said he supports an a$sault weapons ban.
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Originally Posted by conscious thug
Nobody is banning "guns". You make it sound like they're outlawing all forms of guns everywhere, and are going to be locking people up for not giving them up. that !! ain't happening and your conspiracy nut a$s knows it.

If anything it's an a$sault weapon ban, which SHOULD happen, but more than likely nothing will happen because the Government is too !! to go up against the piece of !! NRA
Burlington City Council approves gun ban



this is one of many...dont make me soruce them please..do your own research..only reason i posted this one is because there is a "VIDEO"
 01-09-2013, 10:28 PMaway - #16
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guns suck

violence sucks


get over guns, the constitution of the united states of america is not some purist, end all be all !!. i wish people would end the wank over the 2nd amendment and just let it gooooooooo
 01-09-2013, 10:29 PMaway - #17
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Originally Posted by conscious thug
Nobody is banning "guns". You make it sound like they're outlawing all forms of guns everywhere, and are going to be locking people up for not giving them up. that !! ain't happening and your conspiracy nut a$s knows it.

If anything it's an a$sault weapon ban, which SHOULD happen, but more than likely nothing will happen because the Government is too !! to go up against the piece of !! NRA
it should not happen. more people are murked by hand guns than a$sualt weapons. cmon son. if you are robbed and shot it aint with a rifle. media is mind !!in you and you know it.
 01-09-2013, 10:31 PMaway - #18
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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."



WRITTEN IN THE CONTEXT OF ITS TIME LET IT GO LET IT GOOOOOOO
 01-09-2013, 10:38 PMaway - #19
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Originally Posted by iThink
guns suck

violence sucks


get over guns, the constitution of the united states of america is not some purist, end all be all !!. i wish people would end the wank over the 2nd amendment and just let it gooooooooo

MY nicca!

IT'S MORE TO IT THAN JUST WEAPONS THATS WHY...THERES A BIGGER PICTURE BRO
 01-09-2013, 10:43 PMaway - #20
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Originally Posted by Wood Grain
Burlington City Council approves gun ban



this is one of many...dont make me soruce them please..do your own research..only reason i posted this one is because there is a "VIDEO"
You can source all you want, the bottom line is that the President is not taking everyone's guns away, no matter what that piece of !! Wayne LaPierre tries to convince everyone.

Besides, the day that you gun nuts love your kids more than you love your guns, then this place might be a better off place to live. Until then, we're !!ed.
 
 


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