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Jan 5 - Marijuana legalization poses challenge to police on lookout for driving while high


 Jan 5 - Marijuana legalization poses challenge to police on lookout for driving while high
topic by pocketchange - 01-05-2013, 04:44 PM - Boxden > BX Daily Bugle - news and headlines



Smoking marijuana in Washington state is legal as of Thursday, but driving while high is not.

It's a fine line that police and prosecutors are hoping to walk.

"I don't feel we are in unchartered territory -- I know we are," said Seattle Deputy City Attorney Craig Sims.

Possessing pot is legal now in Washington and soon in Colorado. In 17 other states, marijuana for medical use is easily obtainable. Yet unlike alcohol, there is no national legal limit. Some states have a zero tolerance policy, while others like Colorado and California leave it up to the discretion of the arresting officer.

Yet multiple studies show marijuana can cause dizziness and slowed reaction time, affecting coordination and judgment. Drivers are more likely to drift and swerve while they're high, according to research in the Netherlands.

"First and most important is an inability or reduced ability to divide one's attention," said California Highway Patrol drug recognition expert Sgt. Tyler Eccles. "Another effect of those who drive under influence of marijuana is a reduced ability to perceive time and distance."

In a field sobriety test, Eccles said it is not uncommon in the finger-to-nose tests for those high on marijuana to touch their eye socket or forehead. Those who support legalization say, however, that pot is less debilitating than alcohol, and that pot smokers are more aware of being impaired than those who drink.

That debate was front and center this summer in Colorado, which considered adopting a standard of five nanograms per milliliter of blood -- above that would have qualified as DUI-D, or driving while under the influence of drugs.

There are different types of tests for marijuana -- most involve THC, the ingredient that makes one high. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says peak THC concentrations are reached during the act of smoking, and within three hours they generally fall to less than 5 nanograms.

However, researchers say THC is stored in body fat and in heavy pot smokers remains detectable weeks after use. The pot lobby successfully argued in Colorado that innocent people could be found guilty based on prior use, and yet show no signs of impairment.

The legislature there agreed and defeated the bill. However, in Washington state, advocates knew the ballot measure would only pass with voters -- especially those in conservative eastern Washington -- with the 5-nanogram standard.

"Because we are early on in the research phase it is very difficult to tell if that 5-nanogram level will change, similar to how DUI standards have evolved over the years," said Sims. "There absolutely needs to be some public education campaign to educate John Q citizen on the effects of marijuana."

So how much pot does it take to reach five nanograms? Police say it is impossible to know since THC concentrations vary based on where and how the marijuana is grown, and how much is consumed.

"People always want to know how much does it take to reach five nanograms. That is nearly impossible to determine," said Eccles. "For anyone to say two hits or dosages get me to five nanograms, it is nearly impossible to make that determination."

Practically speaking, in Washington, police will still have to observe signs of impaired driving before pulling someone over.

Drivers will likely undergo some type of field test. If the officer believes the driver is impaired, they would be taken to a hospital where blood would be drawn. Tests above five nanograms would automatically subject the driver to a DUI conviction. With no priors, they may receive a day in jail and a fine.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2H9DWesVG


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 01-05-2013, 07:30 PMaway - #2
TheProtege9020 49 heat pts49

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Seems like i drive better while high. That just people who don't know how to control themselves and let the #### take control of them.
 01-05-2013, 08:26 PMonline - #3
UpTownBronx92 208 heat pts208

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yeah i swerve when im smacked
 01-05-2013, 08:35 PMaway - #4
ThatDude0824 6 heat pts

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This one Time I got too blown and decided to drive to 711 only do the whole thing in reverse
I made it there fine but on my way back I went up a curb and took out this ladIes mailbox and hummingbird feeder. She was pissed but i was high
 01-05-2013, 08:44 PMaway - #5
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Originally Posted by pocketchange
Yet multiple studies show marijuana can cause dizziness and slowed reaction time, affecting coordination and judgment. Drivers are more likely to drift and swerve while they're high, according to research in the Netherlands.

" Don't get blazed if ur mind isn't going to be focused "


IMO

 01-05-2013, 09:22 PMaway - #6
ManWithoutFear! 2 heat pts

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I'll never forget me and my ace went to this party in Jersey City back in the day. I don't smoke but my son (matter fact all the ni##as I used to hang with) get crazy blitzed. So Im drinkin' and #### we all kickin it outside these ni##as got like 7 blunts in rotation and everytime one blunt is deaded its like another muthafuhka or #### come outa nowhere with another blunt. And Im kinda faded so Im watching this #### in awe like, "are these ni##as gonna die from all this ####?" lol So me and my man get in his car to head back to New York and Im askin son, you ok? You ok? He like yeah Im good. Got to my spot and I get out and Im like yo you sure you ok? You gonna make it home? ni##a like yeah yeah Im straight. So I head into my building go to sleep whatever. I get up in the morning head downstairs to get bogeys this ni##a car still sittin' there running, got a boot on the ####, and he knocked the fuhk out!
 01-05-2013, 10:19 PMaway - #7
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Cut the ####. I stay blazin n drivin... come on... they pretty m much go hand n hand.......
 01-05-2013, 10:21 PMonline - #8
Trilluminati GA 343 heat pts343

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stupidity! u cant measure how high a person is. and again THC is stored in the body for weeks. smh another govt scam for $$$

Originally Posted by ManWithoutFear!
I'll never forget me and my ace went to this party in Jersey City back in the day. I don't smoke but my son (matter fact all the ni##as I used to hang with) get crazy blitzed. So Im drinkin' and #### we all kickin it outside these ni##as got like 7 blunts in rotation and everytime one blunt is deaded its like another muthafuhka or #### come outa nowhere with another blunt. And Im kinda faded so Im watching this #### in awe like, "are these ni##as gonna die from all this ####?" lol So me and my man get in his car to head back to New York and Im askin son, you ok? You ok? He like yeah Im good. Got to my spot and I get out and Im like yo you sure you ok? You gonna make it home? ni##a like yeah yeah Im straight. So I head into my building go to sleep whatever. I get up in the morning head downstairs to get bogeys this ni##a car still sittin' there running, got a boot on the ####, and he knocked the fuhk out!
Originally Posted by ThatDude0824
This one Time I got too blown and decided to drive to 711 only do the whole thing in reverse
I made it there fine but on my way back I went up a curb and took out this ladIes mailbox and hummingbird feeder. She was pissed but i was high


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 01-05-2013, 10:25 PMaway - #9
DrizzyJT 12 heat pts12

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I was high as.#### once ,my AC magically turned on,so I'm looking down to turn it off and next thing you know I ran a red light ,and got caught by the camera. No ticket tho
 01-05-2013, 10:50 PMaway - #10
SeattleWon 600 heat pts600

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Originally Posted by ThatDude0824
This one Time I got too blown and decided to drive to 711 only do the whole thing in reverse
I made it there fine but on my way back I went up a curb and took out this ladIes mailbox and hummingbird feeder. She was pissed but i was high
Originally Posted by ManWithoutFear!
I'll never forget me and my ace went to this party in Jersey City back in the day. I don't smoke but my son (matter fact all the ni##as I used to hang with) get crazy blitzed. So Im drinkin' and #### we all kickin it outside these ni##as got like 7 blunts in rotation and everytime one blunt is deaded its like another muthafuhka or #### come outa nowhere with another blunt. And Im kinda faded so Im watching this #### in awe like, "are these ni##as gonna die from all this ####?" lol So me and my man get in his car to head back to New York and Im askin son, you ok? You ok? He like yeah Im good. Got to my spot and I get out and Im like yo you sure you ok? You gonna make it home? ni##a like yeah yeah Im straight. So I head into my building go to sleep whatever. I get up in the morning head downstairs to get bogeys this ni##a car still sittin' there running, got a boot on the ####, and he knocked the fuhk out!
i'm ####ing crying
 01-05-2013, 10:54 PMaway - #11
Jumpoff21 3 heat pts

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Originally Posted by ThatDude0824
This one Time I got too blown and decided to drive to 711 only do the whole thing in reverse
I made it there fine but on my way back I went up a curb and took out this ladIes mailbox and hummingbird feeder. She was pissed but i was high
Man You got to practice that #### first lol I used to drive around my apartment complex high, now I can drive anywhere blowed lol I don't even think about it.
 01-05-2013, 11:29 PMonline - #12
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Originally Posted by SoloDolo
you can control your self drunk too? Fact of the matter is you're still intoxicated while high off marijuana
Marijuana use had little effect on simulated driving skills, according to a Hartford Hospital study, but test subjects were more easily distracted when under the influence of the drug.
Investigators from Hartford Hospital and the University of Iowa Carver College of Medicine a$sessed the simulated driving performance of 50 male and 35 female subjects in a double-blind, placebo-controlled trial. All 85 subjects reported having used marijuana from one to 10 times per month previously.
The study was published in the March issue of the Journal of Psychoactive Drugs.
During the study, some subjects were given actual marijuana cigarettes, and some were given a placebo, with neither the investigator nor the subject knowing which they had smoked. Another administrator kept track of who was given which type of cigarette.
The marijuana was supplied by the National Institute of Drug Abuse and the University of Mississippi, the only legal source of the drug in the U.S.
Subjects drove a high-tech simulator that was very realistic, said Beth Anderson, an investigator in the study. "It was an actual car with parts replaced by computers."
Participants then drove down a simulated country road for 15 minutes, first in an "uneventful" simulation, and then in collision-avoidance and distracted-driving simulations, the study states.
In the collision-avoidance portion, drivers reacted to simulated events such as another driver entering an intersection illegally, a changing traffic light, and a dog running into the road.
The researchers found no signifcant difference between the study groups in the collision-avoidance tests.

 01-05-2013, 11:40 PMaway - #13
tanman10 2 heat pts

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man anyone else feel more in the zone driving while high? I do...
 01-06-2013, 12:09 AMaway - #14
VinylDigga213 1 heat pts

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If you smoke on a daily basis, driving high feels normal, I'm even more cautious. If you smoke once in a while, i don't recommend that you drive, you might fall asleep. Driving high is way different than driving buzzed or drunk, you're an idiot if you think they're similar. Drunk driving makes people speed and it lowers your inhibitions so you start racing and taking red lights with your stereo on blast like an idiot.
 01-06-2013, 12:14 AMaway - #15
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I feel like I'm more cautious when I drive high. ####, I have to concentrate just to keep from going slower than the speed limit haha.
 01-06-2013, 01:16 AMonline - #16
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I quit smokin bout a month and a half ago but when i was blazin daily i would drive high pretty much everyday...i didnt really have a problem with it cause like one dude said when you smoke daily then driving high isnt really a problem if you're used to it...it really does make me more cautious...its different tho when i smoke good #### cause i be thinkin damn theres no way i can drive but it makes me even more cautious i'd never be able to drive drunk though that ####s way different i never even attempted it cause i could just tell by the way i felt i'd never be able to do it
 01-06-2013, 01:23 AMaway - #17
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Originally Posted by SSJVEGETO
Seems like i drive better while high. That just people who don't know how to control themselves and let the #### take control of them.
word...
 01-06-2013, 07:39 AMonline - #18
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Originally Posted by ManWithoutFear!
I'll never forget me and my ace went to this party in Jersey City back in the day. I don't smoke but my son (matter fact all the ni##as I used to hang with) get crazy blitzed. So Im drinkin' and #### we all kickin it outside these ni##as got like 7 blunts in rotation and everytime one blunt is deaded its like another muthafuhka or #### come outa nowhere with another blunt. And Im kinda faded so Im watching this #### in awe like, "are these ni##as gonna die from all this ####?" lol So me and my man get in his car to head back to New York and Im askin son, you ok? You ok? He like yeah Im good. Got to my spot and I get out and Im like yo you sure you ok? You gonna make it home? ni##a like yeah yeah Im straight. So I head into my building go to sleep whatever. I get up in the morning head downstairs to get bogeys this ni##a car still sittin' there running, got a boot on the ####, and he knocked the fuhk out!

Originally Posted by DrizzyJT
I was high as.#### once ,my AC magically turned on,so I'm looking down to turn it off and next thing you know I ran a red light ,and got caught by the camera. No ticket tho
 01-06-2013, 07:47 AMaway - #19
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Man, too many people over do the weed. Smoking 20 blunts a week. all you need is one joint that should last you about a good two weeks if it's in a blunt.
 01-06-2013, 09:49 AMaway - #20
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Keep visine problem solved
 
 


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