Originally Posted by Kadillac87
Outside of[..] and incest, I don't agree with abortions either. I never got the "It's my body, I do what I want" argument from women. If you don't want people to legislate your body, then keep your legs closed. Nobody told you to engage in risky behavior and then complain about the consequences. The use of contraceptives and good judgment should replace abortion. But that's just my opinion.
i could never understand any person who can't understand this statement, and argue their point vehemently cuz they feel they are sticking up for something when in actuality THEY NEED TO MIND THEIR !!ING BUSINESS, you included.
you care SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much about life now huh?? are you outside RJ Nabisco's cigarette making factories protesting how !!ing deadly cigarettes are??? do you tell EVERY PERSON that you see smoking cigarettes how deadly it is, not only for them but for people AROUND THEM BECAUSE SECOND HAND SMOKE IS JUST AS DEADLY?? if you tell me that you smoke then i'm really going to tell you to go jump off a cliff and !!.
people in this country want to f!ght for a cause but are hopelessly lost and misguided as to what they should really focus their energy on. this 'issue' is not an 'issue'. there is A LOT of !! going on in this world that is way more unjust than abortions. since you care SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much and are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO against abortions, ur captain save a ho a## should call up every girl who wants to get an abortion, tell them not to and that you'll support that child until it's 18 then. see how long you'll keep that stance. i love my kids, i absolutely adore children. they are so innocent and sweet and adorable AND EXPENSIVE AND TIME CONSUMING AND A HEADACHE as well as the miracle that they are too. I, AS A PERSON OF LOGIC AND REASON, WOULDN'T EVEN CONSIDER TELLING A GROWN a## WOMAN WHAT OR WHAT NOT TO DO WITH HER !!. i can't make anyone do anything that they don't want and i don't think it's anyone's place to say that what they think should overstand someone else's free will.
pregnancies are complicated. miscarriages happen daily bro so no, i don't think that the baby is here until that !! comes out of the !!. the baby could die during the birth. you just don't know. if a woman chooses to end that situation before it really starts, i can't even comment on it, ESPECIALLY IF THAT BABY AINT MINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no matter how much you disagree you can't tell someone else what to do with their body.
Originally Posted by Kadillac87
The government is responsible for people who can't take care or defend themselves. THat's why we have social programs like welfare, social security, and medicare. I'm all about personal liberty, but when it's infringing on the life of others, especially those unable to defend themselves, it's a problem.
I don't care who you have se# with. I don't care if a condom fail. I don't care if birth control fail. That's a chance you are taking by having se#. Once you conceive, it's not just your body anymore. You are sharing your body with another body. The whole outlawing tattoos, piercings, etc analogy doesn't make sense because you are not infringing on anybody's rights but your own.
If it's unlawful to abuse kids outside the womb, it shouldn't be lawful to abuse them inside. As a parent, you are responsible for the well-being of your child. That doesn't give you the right to decide whether your child lives or dies though. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That should apply to fetuses too.
first off, gov't programs help the needy however i think that it's more of a let's keep them dependent on us so they never amount to !! type thinking that let's help them because in my 30+ years in the US, i really wouldn't agree with that comment about them helping those in need. they really help those who PAY them to and give the scraps to the rest of the people. and as far as your abuse comment goes, like i said, until the baby is out of the womb, it ain't !!. it might not ever come out the womb and that whole process is the burden and sole responsibility of the woman carrying the child. that baby has to come out of her !!. again, if she, of her own free will, doesn't want to go through with that then it should definitely be her choice. if you disagree with all the bad choices that people make that hurt themselves, you should be a drug counselor.....or you should really go talk to all the CEO's of all the major banks that's running the economic system in just about every country and tell them to stop raping people with ballooning interest rates on mortgages, student loans and credit card debt. tell them that the next time some woman with kids is late on her mortgage to not kick her out in the street without blinking. tell all the tobacco companies to stop k#lling the planet with their poison. tell the oil companies to find new means of energy without poisoning our waters from tanker oil spills. all that !! affects everyone yet here you are concerned with a woman and what she does with her !!. gtfoh.
Originally Posted by Dos-effect
Well, let me ask you this first.............does your definition of life prevent you from squashing a spider in your home? It is life, yet its existence in your world does not constitute it invading your space does it?..........
Embryo's and the fetus are life, but until the baby born it is nothing by a hypothetical being.......sure it exist in the womb, but there is no real guarantee that it will even survive being carried to full term, So while hypothetically a human life may exist, its true existence of life and acknowledgement of the world can only exist out-side the womb.................
i'm always happy to see that there is at least ONE PERSON on here thinking the same thing i am. people make a big deal out of the simplest !! and the k#ller part is typically, IT'S NONE OF THEIR GOD DAMN BUSINESS IN THE FIRST PLACE. now he wants to care about all the unborn fetuses in the world. dont mean to sound selfish but what about all the people already out of the womb going through all this unnecessary bull!! put on us by other people outside of the womb????????????????????? niccas need to get their mind right.