Dec 22 - Michael Moore: Racial Fear Drives Gun Obsession

South Florida doesn't count as the south. It's different here than say, Alabama or Mississippi.

real !! ever since 2008, the pink boys been stocking up

South Florida doesn't count as the south. It's different here than say, Alabama or Mississippi.

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That's interesting, how about Michael Moore does a study of why inner city minorities are buying guns? What are they afraid of?

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But that's not part of the agenda. We can't shine a light on that.

we're paranoid but you're defending ppl who think obama is physically coming to take their guns


dude,plz shush

The Anti KKK ones prohibited the KKK from stripping away guns from blacks and prohibited them from enacting violence upon black people(it did not prohibit them carrying guns....but more so from attemping to enforce the law themselves), The economic gun bans some did include poor whites however all the of the law prohibited Blacks it just so happen a few and I do mean a few did include poor whites, and there was no out right gun bans except for police, all of the laws that were posted were in reagards to stripping blacks from guns. And they are not fighting for me too( THEY DONT CARE ABOUT ME) if you want to pretend your to stupid to correlate the hatred for Obama'
s skin color with the new wave of stupid[..] Americans wanting over throw the government then fine, but your talking to person who doesn't live in some fantasy world where I pretend that 2+2 does not make 4. My logic is my ancestors were stripped of the right to bear arms because they were considered to be citizens by various local STATE not FEDERAL legislative brances. And this went on up to about 70 years ago, thats not even a !!ing century.....hell a person born in 1950 is only 62 today......you act like this type of thinking where prohibiting certain citizens from owning guns was so long ago......its 2 generations......2....and as far as Im concerned black Americans have already expeirienced tyranny by the hands of racist white America, hence the reason Im not really finding any sense of unity on this matter

No they dont.....like Bill Maher said you people live inside the bubble.....they dont want to take away guns....gun sales are selling out of stores in record numbers, these are people with PERMITS to buy these weapons....approved by the government......how are so many people able to legally purchase these guns if the governement is attempting to take guns away? Its just not true.....just like the history lesson up top you completely ignore the facts and try to paint some bogus partial truth to attempt to discredit the information....when there is no discredit to it....racist whites proactively banned guns for black Americans so there would be less hositility in regards to the unfair treatment they enacted.

So these are not your words? Stop double talking.....your were appalled that Moore insinuated that whites are scared of blacks as "whites are not scared of anything" right? It has nothing to do with your belief of racial structure in this country, Moore is suggesting a weakness and vunerability of white America and you took offense and ran your !![..] in here to denounce these statements.....offering nothing but trash logic of white superiority.

Did you watch the videos (they bashed themselves with thier silly[..] comments), One idiot (the one who looks like Peter Griffin) stated that he believes that the economic collapse did not happen in his words and I qoute "there is just no proof of it" despite the job losses, unemployment, entitlement, and nearly collapse of the dollar.......his reasoning why we were told about the collapse was so the Democrats could get into office( Yes after 8 years of Bush he was concenred with a Deomcratic getting into office)......another !!tard right after that comment stated " I wouldn't care if Bush was bar b queing new born babies on the white house lawn I would still vote for him over Obama" These are your fellow Americans.....the man didn't edit the videos....those he interviewed are just !!ING IDIOTS......and these are the people who have always been in this country......These are the people elected by the people in local government (not Federal) who imposed these laws in regards to stripping guns away from blacks. You want to keep saying the government, blah, blah, blah........when everyone but white people know that White People are the government. These laws are your laws, the gun laws are your laws that were only enacted to keep guns away from the hands of minorities......but now you want to try to seperate the two...because it better fits your argument. When people say the Man, Big Brother, the Eye in the Sky they are talking about white America, the majority of the American government are white people, the bankers are white people, the eltist are a majority white people........there is discretion whites are the government...........

So Michelle Bachman is not a Tea Party member? What about the rallies, the protest, the addtional senators in congress who were appointed by the Tea Party....you know good and Godamn well that this faction exist...but to admit that would be giving leverage to the white racist argument.....and position is to play down that because it does not to advance your agenda........so this bull!! statement Im glad you posted cause it just goes into further proving that your are fake as !!

Over where? On Mars?........stop pretending to be ignorant because you know you have no real argument. All whites are not hell bent on starting a war with blacks......but White Conservative America will never change ...they will always be white, they will always be Christian, and they will always be racist......and this new ploy for guns and rights is nothing more but thier good ol boy way of thinking reemergin because they feel that White Dominated America is on a decline and a more Diverse America is on the rise....

so any and everything they can hold to or grasp they are reaching for......right now its gun laws because they know it protected under the Constitution......but when they begin to pretend like 20 students getting k!lled is nothing more but some mishap they loose the argument....because while much like you they are skilled in living a imaginary world where nothing they do should be considered wrong......the rest of the world lives on a normal plain of reaility and want stricter gun laws enacted..........we dont think the goverment wants to take over the country.....and would prefer that stupid[..] white people stop shooting up public places looking to hit any and everyone beceause mommy and daddy !!ted in your lunchbox as a kid........

Bottom line, YOU have the right to bear arms today. Do you want that right or not? Do you side with gun advocates to protect your rights, or do you alienate yourself from them because you're uncomfortable with the fact that a few of them might look at you with prejudice, thereby defaulting to being anti-gun rights? Sure, it's a conundrum, but no one is asking you to like every white, gun owning citizen of America. I sure the !! don't.



Who is "you people"? Yes buddy, they DO want to take away guns. They, meaning not just "the gubbment", but many plain ol' citizens of America. There is a large anti-gun sentiment in this country. It exists and it is growing. The reason why you can still go into a gun store and buy guns is because there is a due process to writing legislation. This is a democracy. We don't have a king. Nobody can just call a press conference and be like, "How's it going everybody. Listen, we're gonna just go ahead and do away with that 2nd amendment. Yeah, so no more guns for anyone. Okay, thanks and god bless." It doesn't work that way.

As for the second point in this paragraph, I can't address this with you anymore. You're attempting to connect two completely unrelated things to each other, just because they both have to do with gun laws. Why do you insist on repeating the same tired points about how the American governments, especially at the state levels, used to target black people's gun rights? Yeah bro, I get it. !! was !!ed. A lot of !! back in the day was !!ed. But here today, those laws don't exist anymore, and your right to own and firearm is in the same boat as everyone else's right to own a firearm. What's the point you're trying to make with that? You don't have one. If you ask me, it sounds like you're just getting off on the idea that you think you're "schooling" some white boy on Jim Crow laws, like I don't already !!ing know how !!ed up American history can be. It's a completely irrelevant topic to what's being discussed, which in case you forgot, is whether or not what Micheal Moore said was bull!! or not.



How in the !! is that double talking? Admitting that there does exist white people scared of black people, does not contradict my admitting that I was appalled that Moore would insinuate that the driving force, AKA the whoooooole reason why aaaaaaaall the gun rights advocates exist, is because they're aaaaaall terrified of black people, and because there's a huuuuuuge race war conspiracy. Your reading comprehension is stifled by your desperation to say something meaningful. I swear, I don't even know why I get into these debates on a place like Boxden. There just aren't any scholars around here. There's no honesty. Every debate devolves into this long, drug out series of me having to meticulously explain every little !!ing thing I say, because someone like you has to try their little heart out to twist everything that gets said. You know who I noticed does that a lot? Women. I can appreciate an exchange of ideas, and I'm always down to agree to disagree, but I'm not about to sit here and explain to you how to comprehend what you read.

Oh, and the "not scared of anything" comment was actually a goof on white people.



No, I didn't watch the videos. I'm well aware of the fact that MOST Americans are either absolutely !!ing retarded or willfully ignorant. You're so lost in your own horse!! though, you act as if those ignorant comments are exclusive to one political party, or one voting demographic, or one race. Brother, that's MOST of America right there. Take your camera into any neighborhood, any where in this country from the big cities to small town middle America, and people from all races and all backgrounds will UNDOUBTEDLY give you this same level of stupidity right there. When I say "the government", I mean "the people" as well. That's how this !! works. Again though, you bring up the gun laws from the past about minorities... Like... What the !! are you babbling about? What does that have ANYTHING to do with what we're talking about right now?



I meant in real life, genius. I think they're a fringe outfit.

Okay, I'm fake now? [pic] I'm losing all interest in this conversation. I'm not a kid. I do not give a half of one !! to sit here and try and prove how really, really real I am to you. I really, really, make sense. My points are objective and eloquent. I don't name call and all that !! !!. We're on the internet. You don't know me from a can of paint. Keep it on topic.



It's not a new ploy for gun rights... These rights already exist. No one is trying to expand gun rights, they're trying to preserve them because there's been a lot of talk about writing legislation to limit these rights, and some to completely dissolve them altogether, due to the recent school shooting. Bro... Are you serious right now? Am I being trolled? I feel like I'm being trolled.



Lemme ask you something... You ever ranted so passionately about gun laws before, over one of the countless shootings that happen in black neighborhoods on a day to day basis? You're over here taking your cue from white people to be up in arms over gun rights, when the only reason it's a hot topic in your mind right now, is because white people are telling you it's time to pay attention since twenty little white kids got shot. On any other day of the week, you wouldn't be bothered to be crying about gun rights when a whole family gets wiped out in Detroit. How's those strict gun rights working out in Chicago right now, bro?

At the end of the day, this boils down to a lack of will in our society to deal with the culture of whiny, !![..] first world depression. The kid's mom owned the guns. You could've put that broad through the ringer on background checks and psychological exams, and she would've passed and still ended up smoked by her !! son. That's not to say that I don't like the idea of psychological exams for gun ownership, but I'm not ignorant enough to think that a lack of gun control is what caused this shooting. It's not. And what're people's answers to this tragedy? Oh, let's ban semi-automatic rifles and thirty round magazines... Right, because obviously forcing someone to instead bring a little .22 and a couple spare mags wouldn't have made it just as easy to shoot a bunch of !!ing 6 year olds. You tell me what gun law would've saved those kids. I'd love to hear it.

Bottom line, YOU have the right to bear arms today. Do you want that right or not? Do you side with gun advocates to protect your rights, or do you alienate yourself from them because you're uncomfortable with the fact that a few of them might look at you with prejudice, thereby defaulting to being anti-gun rights? Sure, it's a conundrum, but no one is asking you to like every white, gun owning citizen of America. I sure the !! don't.

Who is "you people"? Yes buddy, they DO want to take away guns. They, meaning not just "the gubbment", but many plain ol' citizens of America. There is a large anti-gun sentiment in this country. It exists and it is growing. The reason why you can still go into a gun store and buy guns is because there is a due process to writing legislation. This is a democracy. We don't have a king. Nobody can just call a press conference and be like, "How's it going everybody. Listen, we're gonna just go ahead and do away with that 2nd amendment. Yeah, so no more guns for anyone. Okay, thanks and god bless." It doesn't work that way.

As for the second point in this paragraph, I can't address this with you anymore. You're attempting to connect two completely unrelated things to each other, just because they both have to do with gun laws. Why do you insist on repeating the same tired points about how the American governments, especially at the state levels, used to target black people's gun rights? Yeah bro, I get it. !! was !!ed. A lot of !! back in the day was !!ed. But here today, those laws don't exist anymore, and your right to own and firearm is in the same boat as everyone else's right to own a firearm. What's the point you're trying to make with that? You don't have one. If you ask me, it sounds like you're just getting off on the idea that you think you're "schooling" some white boy on Jim Crow laws, like I don't already !!ing know how !!ed up American history can be. It's a completely irrelevant topic to what's being discussed, which in case you forgot, is whether or not what Micheal Moore said was bull!! or not.

How in the !! is that double talking? Admitting that there does exist white people scared of black people, does not contradict my admitting that I was appalled that Moore would insinuate that the driving force, AKA the whoooooole reason why aaaaaaaall the gun rights advocates exist, is because they're aaaaaall terrified of black people, and because there's a huuuuuuge race war conspiracy. Your reading comprehension is stifled by your desperation to say something meaningful. I swear, I don't even know why I get into these debates on a place like Boxden. There just aren't any scholars around here. There's no honesty. Every debate devolves into this long, drug out series of me having to meticulously explain every little !!ing thing I say, because someone like you has to try their little heart out to twist everything that gets said. You know who I noticed does that a lot? Women. I can appreciate an exchange of ideas, and I'm always down to agree to disagree, but I'm not about to sit here and explain to you how to comprehend what you read.

No, I didn't watch the videos. I'm well aware of the fact that MOST Americans are either absolutely !!ing retarded or willfully ignorant.

I meant in real life, genius. I think they're a fringe outfit.

Okay, I'm fake now? [pic] I'm losing all interest in this conversation. I'm not a kid. I do not give a half of one !! to sit here and try and prove how really, really real I am to you. I really, really, make sense. My points are objective and eloquent. I don't name call and all that !! !!. We're on the internet. You don't know me from a can of paint. Keep it on topic.

Lemme ask you something... You ever ranted so passionately about gun laws before, over one of the countless shootings that happen in black neighborhoods on a day to day basis? You're over here taking your cue from white people to be up in arms over gun rights, when the only reason it's a hot topic in your mind right now, is because white people are telling you it's time to pay attention since twenty little white kids got shot. On any other day of the week, you wouldn't be bothered to be crying about gun rights when a whole family gets wiped out in Detroit. How's those strict gun rights working out in Chicago right now, bro?

At the end of the day, this boils down to a lack of will in our society to deal with the culture of whiny, !![..] first world depression. The kid's mom owned the guns. You could've put that broad through the ringer on background checks and psychological exams, and she would've passed and still ended up smoked by her !! son. That's not to say that I don't like the idea of psychological exams for gun ownership, but I'm not ignorant enough to think that a lack of gun control is what caused this shooting. It's not. And what're people's answers to this tragedy? Oh, let's ban semi-automatic rifles and thirty round magazines... Right, because obviously forcing someone to instead bring a little .22 and a couple spare mags wouldn't have made it just as easy to shoot a bunch of !!ing 6 year olds. You tell me what gun law would've saved those kids. I'd love to hear it.

Look bro... I'm a grown[..] man. I don't think "Obama" is going to do anything, per se. I happen to actually know how our democracy works, so I'm not one of these dumb mother !!ers that walks around talking about presidents like they're kings. Point blank, there is a huge uproar in the country right now over this school shooting, and there are a lot of citizens and politicians that are rallying support for ways to model America's gun policies after Europe. There ain't no two ways about it. That's the facts. The problem is that everyone who stands up to this bull!! gets pigeon holed as a racist who wants Obama's head on a stick. A few of the people debating with me in here, including you, are doing that exact same !! to me. You[..]ume you can draw a picture of who I am, what I think and where I'm from, seemingly out of thin !!ing air, just because I don't buy the blanket statement that this tubby !! had to say about gun owners in this country.

you always talk BS, so i dont feel like putting together "full[..]" responses against you at this point [pic]

i talk bull!!, or you cant explain why you follow or believe anything this blowhard says when i posted video of him lying and manipulating?

i mean, you could just say "ill i didnt know he was so full of !! and out for monetary and political gain. thanks for giving me a heads up. maybe hes just trying to manipulate the public with his statements on white people and guns". and then i would say "your welcome no problem brah"

Okay I do have the right to bear arms in America today, but do I take up that right, no I don't. I side with gun advocates to a degree. In the sense of personal protection, a fire arm in the home yes I feel that would be necessary for any man or woman of a family to have because there are some crazy !!ing people in the world. But do I side with the right to go out and buy any gun that's on the market regardless of the sensibility of it. No I don't. You don't need a chopper to stop someone from breaking in your home, you don't need a 1oo round clip to go hunting with, the only thing guns of that nature are meant for is shooting a massive amounts of bullets at one time in large areas of targets. Why anyone would be an advocate of that is mind blowing to me. The argument that simply because its a rights then it should be allowed is ridiculous. When we look at guns of that nature we have to look at the civilian purpose. What is the civilian purpose at this time for these types of guns, who are regular Americans planning on arming themselves from?

There is a anti-gun sentiment in this country, the main reason is people are tired of people dying behind guns shots. This is not a government outcry, its the American public. The family members of people who were lost to guns, the people who have to wake up every day knowing that their loved ones are no longer here because some fool with a gun shot them to [rip]. And for others its resonates deeply because they fear that it could be their child, or their father, or the mother who was taken in that manor. Most guns that are used to k!ll people are not obtained by due process, they are purchased illegally intentionally because they are untraceable. Preventing the sales of guns is not going to stop shootings in this country. So how exactly would the government be able to do this. You keep attempting to drive this point into the ground that they want our guns but you've offered no real legislation of this being true. People talk, people have been talking for years but nothing has ever really happen has it?

You originally proposed the idea of there being no connection with race and guns, I proved it, you dodged it and are still attempting to dodge it. Moving on

You are double talking, I painted a clear portrait of the particular demographic of gun consumers I was referring too. I in no way insinuated that all whites have this mind frame, however for a good majority of conservative America the statement holds true. I mean we watch fox, I'm sure some us listen to the conservative talk shows, the programs are FILLED with talks of 2 Americas and drastic change needing to happen. Talks of getting rid of Obama by any means necessary and doing away with the dirty liberals, etc, etc. This is not a fabricated idealism that I have formed in my head. There is a large group of people who think like this who believe that this country is failing and failing fast. They are pro civil war, they anti unity, and feel they need to prepare themselves for end of their civil liberties. Those types of people are dangerous. I mean dude you have seen the pictures of the lynchings with all the whites standing around smiling, I don't put that notion past these type of people. Because its these same types of people who are making the most noise in this gun control issues. In regards to your "humble honesty" Ill just pretend like this is not the first time you have typed a statement without throwing loose intangible "facts" around recklessly. Like the Indians and the disease statement you made earlier in the thread.

The videos were not to mock conservatives but more to shed light on the though process of these people that you are taking up for. Adding more to my argument in hopes of shedding light on my consensus, however you didn't watch them but you still comment that I'm lost in horse!!. Will how exactly do you comment on a video that you didn't even watch? With as much audacity to blast me for presenting you with evidence to support my beliefs? Very ignorant on your part. I could take a video camera in any neighborhood in America and find ignorance, but would the conversation recorded even pertain to our conversation? The videos I presented did, but your so busy already knowing the point that I am making that you didn't even take timeto break down the significance of why they were posted. [pic]

As opposed to what? Regardless of the grounds that the party was formed they DO exist, right or wrong? And their movement has manifested its way into congress, right or wrong? And their members are largely anti-government intrusion right? Their members are mostly older white Americans? They support the 2nd Amendment immensely do they not? So a group whose numbers range somewhere near 40 million, has members of its party in Congress, and has the Republican party scared !!less of a over take in power is a fringe outfit? That is interesting to say the least.

Well what do you call this little Mitt Romney act your pulling now? All of sudden he is a social moderate.....[pic]...but I digress

Well have you ever argued so passionately against them? You and alot of people for that matter. Your right guns have been a problem in the urban community for many decades. Communities that I am far more closer to then you might I add. The city I grew up in the 80's was the murk capitol of the world. I'll admit I was to young to fully grasp the understanding of what that meant, but I understood the pain people felt when they were loosing their family members to gang violence. My disdain for guns existed long before Newton or Columbine. I had to walk through metal detectors just to get in my middle school.

White America did not cue the want for guns to be taking off the streets, as it was the majority of them who did not and still do not care about violence in inner city black neighborhoods.

Plenty of kids die everyday by hand guns and there is no mention of them on nation news channels, but I'm not upset with that. Because that's the way America has always been. My question to you is why are you still supporting gun laws when you can see the effects of these murks as well as I can? Once all this talk dies down(probably right around the time the fiscal cliff bull!! gets dealt with behind closed doors) people in Chicago will still be dying, but that's okay as long as Billy Bob can keep play into his fantasy world where Captain Planet Obama coming to take his guns away huh

Again most gun [rip]s in America are committed by people who illegally obtained the guns. The kid stole the guns from his mom, regulations on gun purchases is not the problem. Banning semi-automatic guns for civilians is just common sense, I mean I have yet to see aliens come down from the sky and the average American has to use their Bush Master to save the world......I mean dude be serious....the only time you hear about the usage of these types of guns is in mass k!llings, shoot outs, or drive by's. Its just greediness, nobody needs all the fire power period. So some kid shoots up a school with a 22, tragic indeed......but how many bullets can that kid let off before he has to reload......people get the chance to run, possibly fend him off, or not die by multiple gun shots. I mean the kids were riddled with bullets. And this is where reality comes in. Instead of admitting that at least these types of weapons need to be seriously mandated for the average civilian you would rather debate the necessity for these types of people to have more guns, that shoot more rounds. and do more damage. Getting these types of guns out of the hands of gang bangers, !! for brains racist, and unst@ble adults is perhaps the best way to began combating these types of incidents. So what automatic guns may still be brought illegally........the odds of someone obtaining it that way and using it to slaughter people is alot better then the country allowing the sale of the damn things in mass amounts. Like most of these idiots are John Mc'Clain...........in all honesty wtf are they going to do with them?

Ya see, this is where your true colors are showing. You're completely outing yourself as someone who doesn't believe in personal liberty. This paragraph here is proof that you don't know anything about the history of mass k!llings in this country, nor about gun fighting in general. As I said earlier, rifles make up a tiny fraction of gun related homicides. Furthermore, your argument is rooted in ammo capacity. Caliber is a negligible variable when you're talking about shooting unarmored, soft targets from close range. Given all of that important information, banning semi-automatic rifles is not only a dumb[..] knee-jerk reaction, but a completely ignorant, senseless and pointless one. As far as the argument over ammo capacity? Again, as I've already said... It's !!ing stupid. Forcing a shooter to reload does not change the dynamics of shooting unarmed, unarmored targets. Virginia Tech is proof. The dude set the !!ing record for shooting people and he reloaded 17 !!ing times.

Please spare me the "personal liberty" bull!!. You have a personal liberty to own a gun, but you don't have a liberty to own a weapon that is manufactured to fire 180 round per minute. That's a privilege. And you don't invoke privilege to someone that you see doesn't know how to handle it. If you have a 16 year old child that has just got his driver's license by law he is at liberty to drive, but if the kid is out driving recklessly, drinking and driving, and catching tickets left and right you are going to take away his privilege to drive right? Its common !!ing sense, you keep trying to argue about constitutional rights like your some kind of !!ing robot. Sensibly we have to begin to change the culture and the nature of how we view guns in this country. If your only answer is to make a ploy for people to back off of gun owners, then your then that solution is ineffective.

What is personal liberties anyway? By definition: the liberty of an individual to do his or her will freely except for those restraints imposed by law to safeguard the physical, moral, political, and economic welfare of others.

Again except for those restraints imposed by law to safeguard the physical, moral, political, and economic welfare of others. ..............from wiki......In 2009, according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, 66.9% of all homicides in the United States were perpetrated using a firearm.[4] There were 52,447 deliberate and 23,237 accidental non-fatal gunshot injuries in the United States during 2000.[5] Just over half of all gun-related [rip]s in the United States are [rip]s,[6] with 17,352 (55.6%) of the total 31,224 firearm-related [rip]s in 2007 [rip] [rip]s, and 12,632 (40.5%) homicide [rip]s.[7]

Almost 70 percent of all homicides where perpetrated using a firearm......but these statistics don't matter and are not all alarming? This is the real problem with guns in America, the people who are actually dying. Your whole 2 post rant about the government being the enemy and needing protection is all made up propaganda bull!!. We have a gun problem in this country specifically gun murks. And our laws need to be updated to combat this issues. If that somehow equates to a government take over for you..........fine.....just sit back be quiet and let the adults handle it. And this knee jerk reaction has been in affect for years but the mandates were relaxed thanks to the American patriotism of the good ole NRA right?
Just cause we are Americans does not mean we have to be wimps to the rest of the world or ourselves. A ban on the legal sales of semi automatics is a start..........not the end all to be all by any means, but it is a start......I mean if you love guns why wouldn't you be about protecting them to insure that you are able to keep yours........which would mean support responsible laws that promote the responsibility of owning fire arms........instead you are doing the opposite opposing any type of real structure to regulation and the whole time screaming injustice when your really just saying let the criminals keep doing what they are doing....so we can keep doing what we are doing, which is just stockpiling up on weapons on some just in case !! happens.......

Your 16 year old driving analogy was perfect. I especially like how you equate taking an individual's privilege to drive a vehicle on public roads, with stripping the entire nation of a particular type of firearm across the board.

I'll ask again, as I did earlier... Show me a law that would've stopped that school shooting. Show me a law that will end violence in the streets. You won't.

Despite what a lot of people think due to the fact that they're no more than a bunch of parrots, America is not the most dangerous developed country. Far from it. You can spout off gun crime figures all day, but it doesn't change the fact that places like the UK for instance, a country which has a ban on ALL firearms, has a violent crime rate much higher than ours.

It's so old and tiring to hear people talk about the U.S like it's this decrepit war zone of gun crazy cowboys, who constantly !! each other up.

What's even more disappointing is the number of Americans who buy into this bull!! propaganda. Our country is NOT that bad. Our violent crime rate is NOT that high. We are a relatively peaceful developed country, despite the gun crime figures.

All that crying people like you do, does not in any !!ing way, shape or form, make us a safer society. All it amounts to is a bunch of scared mother !!ers !!ing and moaning for someone to take their liberties away from them. Who the !! are you to tell me that I'm not responsible enough to own a semi-automatic weapon to protect me and my family with? If you want to be food, you be food. That's your business. You be defenseless. Whatever floats your boat, bro. But I'm tired of hearing people trying to take the only equalizing factor that a good person can utilize to defend themselves, because they believe in this !! utopian horse!! that if you just take everyone's "legal" guns, evil disappears from the face of the planet.