Dec 22 - Michael Moore: Racial Fear Drives Gun Obsession

This^^^^^^^[pic][pic][pic][pic]........oh and for the record i'm black....and I don't mean the only black dude in Pleasantville USA type of black. This guy just hit the nail on the head ppl. Americans just love guns for all types of reasons. This idea that white ppl stock up on guns for fear that LIL Elbow and Big Poky are coming to kick in your door is !!in laughable. niccas k#ll niccas all day everyday whiteout anybody else's help.

*not just Lil Elbow or Big Poky


Javier and Muhammad and Wong as well


is what i think the original point was

minorities doesnt just mean black [pic]

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So if gun bans are allowed you do realize minorities wouldnt have access to legal firearms right?

What he is saying makes no sense since in theory less minorities would be a threat with strict gun laws.

Ill never downplay race since USA is a racist a#s country run by scared white folks but I dont buy this argument one bit.

If this was addressed already I apologize im not reading through 8 pages of race baiting.

So if gun bans are allowed you do realize minorities wouldnt have access to legal firearms right?

What he is saying makes no sense since in theory less minorities would be a threat with strict gun laws.

Ill never downplay race since USA is a racist a#s country run by scared white folks but I dont buy this argument one bit.

If this was addressed already I apologize im not reading through 8 pages of race baiting.

So if gun bans are allowed you do realize minorities wouldnt have access to legal firearms right?

What he is saying makes no sense since in theory less minorities would be a threat with strict gun laws.

Ill never downplay race since USA is a racist a#s country run by scared white folks but I dont buy this argument one bit.

If this was addressed already I apologize im not reading through 8 pages of race baiting.

to give my opinion why else [pic]

I addressed what I felt was important [pic]

I believe there is a nation of white folks that love their guns and still feel their skin color makes them entitled'.thas what i believe

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That's whatever though, that's just typical Northern Elitism that's been perpetuated through school teachings, pa#sed down from parents, and other typical hearsay non sense. The biggest racist town I've ever been around was in Indiana. The only time I've ever seen a white person outwardly call a black person the n-word was in New York... I've lived in the South (Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee) for 25 years, mostly in Southern Florida. I lived in Cali for a year (where I learned of racism against Asians for the first time, which was weird as !! to me.)

1. Point out one that affected whites........please........and don't point out indentured servitude as that was not slavery......as whites had to work off debts and most willingly did so in order to get into America......they were never forced into slavery.

2. For 300 years they systematically prohibited blacks from owning guns to defend themselves while they went on to pretty much !! us over physically, financially, and mentally

3. Nothing is stopping me TODAY from walking into a gun store and purchasing a weapon, but that was never the question. You questioned Michael Moor's comments in and stated that whites in America are in fact not threatened by blacks and that the statement was ridiculous

and I posted laws over a 300 year span that shows that whites were in fact scared !!less of blacks and went out of thier way to take guns away from us. Further more they pretty much enacted the same thing so many of them are f!ghting for today which is gun control.......they prohibited the purchase of guns because they did not want blacks to defend themselves.....basically giving them the leverage to abuse black Americans to no avail. But NOW more then ever they are screaming that they want to protect themselves against a tyrannical government......and they also want to take back America(what ever the !! that means) and restore it back to its values...........

So you tell me.........all the anti-government !! did not start until Obama got into office, gun sales splurged when Obama got elected, The Tea Party was originated after Obama got elected, Conservatives have vowed to see the country fail before they work with Obama

Do I believe these same people are now purchasing guns because they are concerned about their "liberties" are being taking from them.........which is really just code talk for they think they are loosing their dominance in America..........yes I do....this element has NEVER disappeared from this country.........and if given the opportunity to envoke violence against not only the government(which apparently only consist of Obama) but blacks, jews, gays, muslims.....they absolutely would........

You have officially solidified yourself as the most full of !! person in this thread.......your just going to tell a bold face lie..........and even If I wanted to entertain this garbage.......where did the disease come from? Cause they lived on this continent in prosperity and health looooooong before De White Mun decided to "discover" it.........

These 2 muthafuhkas did some brand spankin' new fresh out the box !! and I bet noone will look twice at a whiteboy coming into a theater or school.[pic]

to give my opinion why else [pic]



less access to guns [pic]



disagree, hes as bad as oreilly.

I shouldn't have to point out laws that you yourself posted. If you read them, you'd know about the economic gun bans, the outright bans from anyone except police, as well as the anti-KKK ones that you literally just posted. Regardless of ANY of that !!, NONE of that does ANYTHING to corroborate your argument that gun advocates are f!ghting to keep their guns on the basis of racial tensions, when the same rights they're f!ghting for apply to YOU as well. How the !! do you not get that? Is it really necessary that I have to spell that out for you, to see the contradiction in your logic?



And now they want to take guns from everyone. What's your point? You're throwing this !! completely off topic.



I never said that there didn't exist white people who were scared of black Americans and other minorities. What I said was that isn't the driving force behind gun advocacy. You're attacking strawmen. Pay attention to what's being said.



Are you !!ing retarded? The same government that took guns from minorities back in the day, is the government that's pushing for banning guns everywhere, from everyone... You've got this !!ed ALL the way up, because you keep telling the story like there was some change of regime. There was no change. It's the same people. Then you post a bunch of "Republican" bashing !!... [pic] You're missing the whole point.



I've never met a "Tea Party" member in my life. As far as I'm concerned, that's just some exaggerated bull!! they show on TV to get people gullible enough to buy that bull!! all riled up about it. Again though, this isn't doing anything to affirm you and your boy Micheal Moore.



Jesus Christ, the amount of paranoia that oozes out of people I meet on the internet is !!ing astounding. Maybe it's just a matter of you coming from wherever you're from. Over here? Nobody is on that racial bull!!, talking about "code talk"... For !!'s sake... I can't roll my eyes any harder. People are buying guns because they really think the time is drawing near where they will be outlawed, and they're smart enough to know that weapons manufactured and sold before the enactment of these laws will most likely have to be grandfathered, just like the last a#sault weapons ban.

u think that is a good argument [pic].

come on man.

[pic] @ all this stereotyping and generalizations about the South going on in this thread. Yes, we're all idiots down here, uneducated, country bumpkins, we walk around bare foot and chew tobacco and have se# with our sisters.

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That's whatever though, that's just typical Northern Elitism that's been perpetuated through school teachings, pa#sed down from parents, and other typical hearsay non sense. The biggest racist town I've ever been around was in Indiana. The only time I've ever seen a white person outwardly call a black person the n-word was in New York... I've lived in the South (Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee) for 25 years, mostly in Southern Florida. I lived in Cali for a year (where I learned of racism against Asians for the first time, which was weird as !! to me.)

In terms of the fear thing. The main reason any of these suburban folks fear minorities is not just because they're racist, some of them are, sure, but simply because they don't interact or see, or know any minorities. Everyone knows man's biggest fear after [rip] is the unknown. That's exactly what's happening here, if a white person is only around white people all the time, their first contact and reaction to minorities will be one of fear. Because they are unknown to them. Immediate caution, etc. Someone like myself, who grew up in South Florida in a predominately Latino neighborhood, have no fear of minorities. Because of the fact that I grew up around them, and know them, and have friends that are hispanic and black. But these white people in suburbs have no idea what minorities are like, they have no familiarity. That breeds fear.

As far as the gun !!, I highly doubt that's the driving force for these gun owners. I've met and been around some, and it's not for a feared "race war" [pic] That's silly. It's because they're obsessed with the power that you feel with a gun. These people shoot and it's like a second form of orgasm for them. Yes, it's basically like a 2nd !!. I'm being serious, people get off by shooting !!. That's why they go to the ranges, etc. It's not for fear of a !!ing race war [pic] Only crazies like Charles Manson think up !! like that. It's because these people like the power of a gun, it makes them feel more bad a#s. That's all it is.

a deeply rooted love for a tool designed to k#ll.

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I shouldn't have to point out laws that you yourself posted. If you read them, you'd know about the economic gun bans, the outright bans from anyone except police, as well as the anti-KKK ones that you literally just posted. Regardless of ANY of that !!, NONE of that does ANYTHING to corroborate your argument that gun advocates are f!ghting to keep their guns on the basis of racial tensions, when the same rights they're f!ghting for apply to YOU as well. How the !! do you not get that? Is it really necessary that I have to spell that out for you, to see the contradiction in your logic?

And now they want to take guns from everyone. What's your point? You're throwing this !! completely off topic.

I never said that there didn't exist white people who were scared of black Americans and other minorities. What I said was that isn't the driving force behind gun advocacy. You're attacking strawmen. Pay attention to what's being said.

The statement that this debate is only perpetuated because of the white man's fear of black people, is so ridiculously egotistical and !!ing stupid, that it's literally a joke to me.

Are you !!ing retarded? The same government that took guns from minorities back in the day, is the government that's pushing for banning guns everywhere, from everyone... You've got this !!ed ALL the way up, because you keep telling the story like there was some change of regime. There was no change. It's the same people. Then you post a bunch of "Republican" bashing !!... [pic] You're missing the whole point.

I've never met a "Tea Party" member in my life. As far as I'm concerned, that's just some exaggerated bull!! they show on TV to get people gullible enough to buy that bull!! all riled up about it. Again though, this isn't doing anything to affirm you and your boy Micheal Moore..

Jesus Christ, the amount of paranoia that oozes out of people I meet on the internet is !!ing astounding. Maybe it's just a matter of you coming from wherever you're from. Over here? Nobody is on that racial bull!!, talking about "code talk"... For !!'s sake... I can't roll my eyes any harder. People are buying guns because they really think the time is drawing near where they will be outlawed, and they're smart enough to know that weapons manufactured and sold before the enactment of these laws will most likely have to be grandfathered, just like the last a#sault weapons ban.