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Dec 13 - Obama to start sending US F-16 f!ghter jets to Egypt – on Israel’s election-day


 Dec 13 - Obama to start sending US F-16 f!ghter jets to Egypt – on Israel’s election-day
topic by ItAlY2BkLyN - 12-13-2012, 09:45 AM - Boxden > BX Daily Bugle - news and headlines


The Obama administration took a careful look at the political calendar before announcing that the first four F-16 f!ghter planes - of the 20 approved in a $1 billion US foreign aid package to Egypt - would be delivered Jan. 22.

The announcement came Tuesday, Dec. 11, as Cairo and other Egyptian towns were set for massive rival demonstrations for and against President Mohamed Morsi’s decision to hold a referendum on a pro-Islamist constitution Saturday. It therefore came in for rising criticism in Washington of the wisdom of sending the jets to an unst@ble Egypt in the grip of a strong political confrontation.

A broad range of opposition groups – pro-democratic, liberal, secular, women and Christian – are demanding that President Morsi cancel the referendum. The Muslim Brotherhood is mobilizing its supporters to counter this protest. As the first anti-Morsi groups began gathering in Tahrir Square Tuesday, nine were hurt by masked gunmen.

The opposition has clipped President Morsi’s wings once by making him annul the near-dictatorial powers he gave himself. Forcing him to forego the referendum would further undermine his authority.

So the president fought back by authorizing the military to secure state buildings and arrest civilians in the incendiary days leading up to Saturday’s referendum. debkafile’s military sources report that Monday, six Egyptian Air Force F-16 f!ghters flew symbolically over Cairo.

However, the 2nd and 9th Divisions stationed around Cairo stayed in their barracks and the only uniformed personnel visible on the street were the Republican Guard troops on permanent duty in the capital’s center.

By approving another 20 F-16 jets for Muslim-ruled Egypt on the day of the competing demonstrations, President Obama showed the Egyptian people that he stands foursquare behind President Morsi and that more US military aid is on the way.

The first four jets will arrive in Egypt the day after Barack Obama’s Jan. 21 swearing-in for a second term as US president at the Capitol – and not by chance. That date also coincides with Israel’s Jan. 22 general election.
Obama is therefore using those warplanes as a signpost for the Muslim-Arab Middle East – and the Israeli voter – to show them that he is sticking unswervingly to his policy of support for the region’s Muslim Brotherhood – and especially the Egyptian president - even if Morsi did slip up by a grab for sweeping powers that alienated most of the opposition.

The US promise of new f!ghter planes was also a recommendation to the Egyptian army to pick the right side and opt for President Morsi if they wanted US military a$sistance to keep coming. Washington was also ready to consider providing them with more high-tech items in addition to those already supplied.
At all events, President Obama has made his choice, opting for Egypt’s Islamists against the pro-democracy and liberal opposition – a choice that he might have found embarrassing when he campaigned for his second term.
Israel had a dark premonition of what was coming. Obama began laying the background for his strong alignment with Islamist Egypt last month with the dramatic announcement of a ceasefire in Cairo on Nov. 20, that was delivered jointly by Morsi and US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
By this announcement – and by maneuvering Israel into abstaining from a ground operation in the Gaza Strip to complete its air operation against Palestinian terrorist targets – Obama pulled the Egyptian president out of his hat as a fully-fledged international figure ready to jump to the top of his newly-minted Sunni Muslim Middle East coalition. In addition to Egypt, its chosen members were to be Turkey, Qatar and the Palestinian Hamas. Israel was to be a secret partner and contributor of high-grade intelligence.

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu was ready to fit into the role cast Israel by the US president. He therefore chose to hold back from a ground incursion in the Gaza Strip and then agreed to the radical Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal visiting Gaza last week.
His reward came at the same time as Washington’s announcement of the 20 F-16 f!ghters for Egypt: The US has appropriated $650 million worth of ordnance to refill the Israeli arsenals depleted by the massive Pillar of Defense air offensive in Gaza.
Under this deal, the US will supply the Israeli Air Force with 6,900 satellite-guided “smart b0mbs;" 10,000 mixed b0mbs - including 3,450 one-tonners and 1,725 b0mbs weighing 250 kilograms - as well as two kinds of buster-bunkers - 1,725, GBU-39 b0mbs and 3,450 BLU-109s.

http://www.debka.com/article/22604/O...s-election-day


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24 comments for "Dec 13 - Obama to start sending US F-16 f!ghter jets to Egypt – on Israel’s election-day"


 12-13-2012, 09:47 AMaway - #2
ItAlY2BkLyN 226 heat pts226

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Obama approves giving 20 F-16 f!ghter jets worth $1-billion dollars directly into the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood. Great looking out for our safety and budgeting our resources in our thriving economy....
 12-13-2012, 09:49 AMaway - #3
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Obongo socialist commie muslim!!!!
 12-13-2012, 09:58 AMonline - #4
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More that change for ya
 12-13-2012, 11:25 AMaway - #5
ItAlY2BkLyN 226 heat pts226

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I just watched Argo last night and this #### is still going on ever since the 80s. Special interests and stirring up #### in countries we don't need to be in. #### are we giving Israel tons of weapons for and now Egypt?
 12-13-2012, 11:54 AMaway - #6
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are we really surprised at this?? i mean really.....

difference between Obama and Bush... Bush did his dirty work, Obama just hands it off
 12-13-2012, 01:29 PMaway - #7
KFrizzle 267 heat pts267

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Originally Posted by ItAlY2BkLyN
I just watched Argo last night and this #### is still going on ever since the 80s. Special interests and stirring up #### in countries we don't need to be in. #### are we giving Israel tons of weapons for and now Egypt?
Ya bro this is no good.. I actually just meet a few ppl from Egypt who fought in the revolution there... None of them are fans of Morsi... and from what they told me about the Muslim Brotherhood, this in not a smart move by Obama, this is not safe. The Muslim brotherhood has some very scary allies...

And my buddy whose from Israel he was undercover in the Gaza strip when he worked w/ the IDF.
He told me we give Israel weapons and Tech. information only because they share a lot of intelligence & weapons info with us.. Israel has some very impressive weapon technologies...

Israel also is the only ally we really have in the Middle East. and what is in that area, Oil...
w/o Israel in the middle east, we would have a much higher chance have the oil supply getting disrupted. Israel has a power house of an Army, just go look up the 6-day war...

IOn a day of rest (some Jewish Holiday), like 8/9 countries surrounded Israel...
Now since the Israelis were on a religious holiday they could not f!ght, so they told the countries surrounding them, they would nuke the entire area if they were attacked..
But if they waited, Israel would f!ght the next day...
Outnumbered 2-1, Israel won in 6 days...

Last edited by KFrizzle; 12-13-2012 at 01:35 PM..
 12-13-2012, 01:52 PMonline - #8
RedMonkeyJunkie 9 heat pts

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Originally Posted by KFrizzle
Ya bro this is no good.. I actually just meet a few ppl from Egypt who fought in the revolution there... None of them are fans of Morsi... and from what they told me about the Muslim Brotherhood, this in not a smart move by Obama, this is not safe. The Muslim brotherhood has some very scary allies...

And my buddy whose from Israel he was undercover in the Gaza strip when he worked w/ the IDF.
He told me we give Israel weapons and Tech. information only because they share a lot of intelligence & weapons info with us.. Israel has some very impressive weapon technologies...

Israel also is the only ally we really have in the Middle East. and what is in that area, Oil...
w/o Israel in the middle east, we would have a much higher chance have the oil supply getting disrupted. Israel has a power house of an Army, just go look up the 6-day war...

IOn a day of rest (some Jewish Holiday), like 8/9 countries surrounded Israel...
Now since the Israelis were on a religious holiday they could not f!ght, so they told the countries surrounding them, they would nuke the entire area if they were attacked..
But if they waited, Israel would f!ght the next day...
Outnumbered 2-1, Israel won in 6 days...
I would a$sume people know bout the 6 Day war, why you spoiler tag that?
 12-13-2012, 02:20 PMaway - #9
KFrizzle 267 heat pts267

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Originally Posted by RedMonkeyJunkie
I would a$sume people know bout the 6 Day war, why you spoiler tag that?
haha, idk why...

And maybe ppl in this thread, but i doubt the majority of ppl on BX knows about the 6 day war..

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#### Jay Leno or Watters could do an 'on the streets' interview segment on the 6 day war.. Ppl would be given some dumb answers..

 12-13-2012, 04:16 PMaway - #10
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Originally Posted by KFrizzle
haha, idk why...

And maybe ppl in this thread, but i doubt the majority of ppl on BX knows about the 6 day war..

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#### Jay Leno or Watters could do an 'on the streets' interview segment on the 6 day war.. Ppl would be given some dumb answers..

This i did not know. And much more stuff i dont, that i wish i did but i dont trust these news outlets. Good #### tho
 12-13-2012, 05:07 PMaway - #11
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Originally Posted by KFrizzle
Ya bro this is no good.. I actually just meet a few ppl from Egypt who fought in the revolution there... None of them are fans of Morsi... and from what they told me about the Muslim Brotherhood, this in not a smart move by Obama, this is not safe. The Muslim brotherhood has some very scary allies...

And my buddy whose from Israel he was undercover in the Gaza strip when he worked w/ the IDF.
He told me we give Israel weapons and Tech. information only because they share a lot of intelligence & weapons info with us.. Israel has some very impressive weapon technologies...

Israel also is the only ally we really have in the Middle East. and what is in that area, Oil...
w/o Israel in the middle east, we would have a much higher chance have the oil supply getting disrupted. Israel has a power house of an Army, just go look up the 6-day war...

IOn a day of rest (some Jewish Holiday), like 8/9 countries surrounded Israel...
Now since the Israelis were on a religious holiday they could not f!ght, so they told the countries surrounding them, they would nuke the entire area if they were attacked..
But if they waited, Israel would f!ght the next day...
Outnumbered 2-1, Israel won in 6 days...
They were smart yes, but outgunned and outmanned, they won mainly from intelligence resources, if they didnt have some of those spies/that intelligence Israel as you know it wouldnt be here. They had to steal a jet just about to learn about the enemies tactics because their airpower far outweighed what the Israelies had
 12-13-2012, 07:45 PMaway - #12
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 12-13-2012, 07:45 PMaway - #13
lifeundthescope 22 heat pts22

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You don't like Obama because his Black right Bklyn?
 12-13-2012, 08:58 PMaway - #14
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Originally Posted by Sniggit
They were smart yes, but outgunned and outmanned, they won mainly from intelligence resources, if they didnt have some of those spies/that intelligence Israel as you know it wouldnt be here. They had to steal a jet just about to learn about the enemies tactics because their airpower far outweighed what the Israelies had
The Israelis surprise attacked Egypt's air force when they were slacking, and completely obliterated their ability to f!ght through the air. Which effectively won the war in one full swoop. The other countries like Jordan and Syria were weak military wise, and didn't have the air capabilities of Israel and Egypt. So the Israelis easily wiped the floor with their attempts too (Jordan and Syria attacked after learning about Egypt's losses, Iraq sent support to Jordan which didn't help in the end.) Strategy wise it's one of the most impressive campaigns ever.

But yeah, that's why America and Israel been in bed for so long. They're superior at intelligence info, they're basically contracted American spies.
 12-13-2012, 09:00 PMaway - #15
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Originally Posted by lifeundthescope
You don't like Obama because his Black right Bklyn?
Maybe he doesn't like Obama because he's just as tyrannical as Bush and these other snakes that run the country? Maybe it has to do with policies and decisions, and not race?



But then again, that wouldn't fit your narrative, so yeah, it's gotta be his race, that's gotta be it.
 12-13-2012, 09:04 PMaway - #16
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Originally Posted by lifeundthescope
You don't like Obama because his Black right Bklyn?
have you looked at Obama's policies? sure hes cool, charismatic and black, but he has done some very questionable things in his tenure. not that another president wouldnt do the same ####, because theres tons of pressure to go a certain direction with this country. the president is just a figurehead

anywho, theres plenty of reasons to dislike Obama aside from his blackness
 12-13-2012, 10:45 PMaway - #17
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Originally Posted by lifeundthescope
You don't like Obama because his Black right Bklyn?
It's a shame your simple mind can't think of a concept more complex than race. I don't think I've seen one post from you this entire time that was an intelligent contribution to a thread without using the topic of race. You sure do have a 1 track mind. So scared that you have to call me a racist because that's all you got. Yet you're too simple to even realize what this avy I've had for months and months really means. Normal people see a universal truth. Your a$s see crayons
 12-13-2012, 10:54 PMaway - #18
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Talking about this in class, I don't know much about what's going out there as I need to start paying more attention but some dude in my class who is pretty knowledgeable said we're pretty much supplying the same people who dislike Americans. Sounds like reaching but he made some good points and its eye opening stuff.
 12-13-2012, 11:39 PMaway - #19
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Originally Posted by ItAlY2BkLyN
It's a shame your simple mind can't think of a concept more complex than race. I don't think I've seen one post from you this entire time that was an intelligent contribution to a thread without using the topic of race. You sure do have a 1 track mind. So scared that you have to call me a racist because that's all you got. Yet you're too simple to even realize what this avy I've had for months and months really means. Normal people see a universal truth. Your a$s see crayons
I'm starting to think it's just a troll gimmick now, but who knows.
 12-13-2012, 11:42 PMaway - #20
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Originally Posted by Peter Griffin
Talking about this in class, I don't know much about what's going out there as I need to start paying more attention but some dude in my class who is pretty knowledgeable said we're pretty much supplying the same people who dislike Americans. Sounds like reaching but he made some good points and its eye opening stuff.
That is true, the Muslim Brotherhood is anti-West. BUT, this move makes no sense for the U.S. to make, it's not just Obama overriding everyone and "hooking up his Muslim bros." He'd catch all kinds of hell for pulling something like that. This is a calculated move it seems. I was going to say they're doing it for them to take each other out (Israel, Egypt, Iran, etc) but that wouldn't make sense either because unrest in the Middle East will drive up oil prices. Or maybe that's what they want?



Maybe they just invested in oil companies, and more unrest and higher prices will make them more money. Essentially an insider trade move. Who knows man, #### this government, completely out of hand.
 
 


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