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US scientists are attempting to find out whether all of humanity is currently living a Matrix-style computer simulation being run on supercomputers of the future.
According to researchers at the University of Washington, there are tests that could be done to begin to work out whether we are in fact real, or merely a simulation created by a futuristic android on its lunch break.
Currently, computer simulations are decades away from creating even a primitive working model of the universe. In fact, scientists are able to accurately model only a 100 trillionth of a metre, with work to create a model of a full human being still out of reach.
By looking for underlying patterns, physicists believe that it may be possible to work out if we are existing in a computer created universe, created many years in the future. Looking at constraints imposed on simulations by limited resources could show signs that we are mere bit-part players in a Matrix-style film plot.
It will take many years to reach the computational power to give a real glimpse of whether we are living in a simulation, the scientists contend, but even by looking at the tiny portion of the universe that we can currently accurately model, it may be possible to detect 'signatures' of constraints on physical processes that could point to a simulation.
The researchers suggest that a signature could show up as a limitation in the energy of cosmic rays, for example. By testing the behaviour of cosmic rays on underlying 'lattice' frameworks governing rules of physics that could exist in future models of the universe, the researchers could find patterns that could point to a simulation.
“This is the first testable signature of such an idea,” one of the researchers, Martin Savage, said.
Aside from the rather mind-boggling proposition that we may be part of a computer simulation, another researcher pointed out that this would bring up the possibility of inter-universe computer platforms, and the potential to communicate across these.
“Then the question is, ‘Can you communicate with those other universes if they are running on the same platform?’” UW graduate student, Zohreh Davoudi, asked.


Read more: Scientists plan test to see if the entire universe is a simulation created by futuristic supercomputers - First of its kind | TechEye
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Unread 12-12-2012, 07:07 PMJoined Dec 2009 - away - #2
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If we are a product of god/consciousnesses wouldnt this kind of be the same type of finding just a different way of looking at it?
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if this was to be true, that would mean the possibilities of other life forms existing might can be plausible!. Why would the simulation just stop with humans?.

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Interesting post....
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In the 14 billion years that have passed, its only taken us 200,000 to reach the point we are at. That could have happened TONS of times in the past and can happen even more in the future.

Now, consider that just one of these hypothetical civilizations built a complex simulation of the universe. Would they just create one? No. They would create many.

Now multiply this by the number of potential civilizations of the past, present, and future, and you will find that it probable that there are millions of 'simulations' built by advanced civilizations.

Now ask yourself this question:

Is it more probable that we are living in one of the millions of potential simulations of the past or present, or is it more probable that we are living in the 1 'real' universe?
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I know I'ma see an alien before I die. I just know know it.
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Originally Posted by mainevent4u88
In the 14 billion years that have passed, its only taken us 200,000 to reach the point we are at. That could have happened TONS of times in the past and can happen even more in the future.

Now, consider that just one of these hypothetical civilizations built a complex simulation of the universe. Would they just create one? No. They would create many.

Now multiply this by the number of potential civilizations of the past, present, and future, and you will find that it probable that there are millions of 'simulations' built by advanced civilizations.

Now ask yourself this question:

Is it more probable that we are living in one of the millions of potential simulations of the past or present, or is it more probable that we are living in the 1 'real' universe?
I think neither is more probable. We don't really know sh*t, and these studies most likely won't bring us any closer to the truth.
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Originally Posted by mainevent4u88
In the 14 billion years that have passed, its only taken us 200,000 to reach the point we are at. That could have happened TONS of times in the past and can happen even more in the future.

Now, consider that just one of these hypothetical civilizations built a complex simulation of the universe. Would they just create one? No. They would create many.

Now multiply this by the number of potential civilizations of the past, present, and future, and you will find that it probable that there are millions of 'simulations' built by advanced civilizations.

Now ask yourself this question:

Is it more probable that we are living in one of the millions of potential simulations of the past or present, or is it more probable that we are living in the 1 'real' universe?
Thats an interesting perception. I think that there are dimensional universes being played out at the same time. That some have to be running with our correlation that makes it hard to say what is the real universe?
Are we the creators of this simulation many years ahead in the future or a diff being?. So many ?? Not enough answers
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This is very much plausible..
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Originally Posted by Sniggit
If we are a product of god/consciousnesses wouldnt this kind of be the same type of finding just a different way of looking at it?
no lol it would mean we are being created by another living organism not god, the concept of god doesnt exsist on other planets, im almost certain

Originally Posted by Insurgent313
if this was to be true, that would mean the possibilities of other life forms existing might can be plausible!. Why would the simulation just stop with humans?.
it wouldnt stop with us cause it would ruin the reason for simulating a universe in the first place, say i recreated the big bang, theoretically everything should happen the same, the stars in the same places the earth here and even me telling you this

Originally Posted by ManWithoutFear!
I know I'ma see an alien before I die. I just know know it.
yes i feel so too, if you look into singularity we can use technology to evolve to say breath in space(maybe use a different source then oxygen, or use astronaut suits like now just more advanced) or live forever ( constantly replacing the fu*ked up body parts, while retaining your memories, or whatever makes us unique. with ths concept i should be able to travel space forever untill i find life, we all should, plus im sure we will get clsoe to the speed of light so it wont take to long

Originally Posted by Tony Franks
I think neither is more probable. We don't really know sh*t, and these studies most likely won't bring us any closer to the truth.

explain how it wouldnt

if we were a simulation running on a computer, the truth is i want that computer hoooked up all the time and i dont want anything to shut it down
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i know yall n*ggas tryna get some alien pus*y before you die
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repost.
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Originally Posted by ogballer32
i know yall n*ggas tryna get some alien pus*y before you die

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wasn't this a hot topic lke 2 days ago? same exact article linked and everything
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so there is a computer simulation of me typing this about imagining that there could be a computer simulation of all of humanity






























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n*ggas minds cant cope.i brought this up to my folks at work a few month ago.n*ggas still wont talk to me
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Originally Posted by mainevent4u88
In the 14 billion years that have passed, its only taken us 200,000 to reach the point we are at. That could have happened TONS of times in the past and can happen even more in the future.

Now, consider that just one of these hypothetical civilizations built a complex simulation of the universe. Would they just create one? No. They would create many.

Now multiply this by the number of potential civilizations of the past, present, and future, and you will find that it probable that there are millions of 'simulations' built by advanced civilizations.

Now ask yourself this question:

Is it more probable that we are living in one of the millions of potential simulations of the past or present, or is it more probable that we are living in the 1 'real' universe?
youre asking me to consider a hypothetical civilizations and you lose me right there. Now you use your imagination to fabricate a whole scenario which is not based on any factual evidence.

Then you tell me to ask myself a question that is flawed because it is based on a hypothetical civilization that you made up. In a scenario that you fabricated. nah man. im good
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If it were a simulation then wouldn't my thoughts be read by the person controlling the simulation? If so, whoever is controlling the simulation change my code to live forever and have super powers. Also keep the Lakers losing.
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Originally Posted by one2remember
n*ggas minds cant cope.i brought this up to my folks at work a few month ago.n*ggas still wont talk to me


Same here, brought this up when I was visiting family and we were all drinking around the table trading stories and talking about random sh*t, politics, etc. Everyone was like



Anyone seen the Thirteenth Floor?




This theory is precisely what happens in this movie. It came out the same time as the Matrix so no one remembers it, but both deal with the same type of possibility though in different ways.
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