Aug 29 - Bill Nye The Science Guy Rips On American's Who Teach Creationism To Children

Hasn't Quantum Physics shown us that something can come from nothing, though? Just throwing that out there.

I prefer to believe in positive energy systems kinda like karma but a little different. My big thing with religion is the whole praising thing.... If I am the best nicest caring person on the planet but I don't praise god I don't get to go to heaven???? If he is so caring and understanding how could he not understand my non belief without and evidence? Did he create us to be dense puppets which is also a deal breaker. Either way !! it I know some people need it for hope......I hope most people drop it for self realization/endrant.

I don't know everything but the problem with your statement according to the Bible is you are relying on your own standard for evidence and what is good. God judges the heart. If you actively seek him, he will find you. According to the Bible, there are people who walked with Christ and still didn't believe. Who's to say you would too, if provided with such evidence? I know this point is probably moot since you don't believe in the Bible, but it speaks on such things. Men ignoring the qualities of God and worshipping the created, instead of the creator.

Romans 1 18-25

18 God’s anger is revealed from heaven against every ungodly and immoral thing people do as they try to suppress the truth by their immoral living. 19 What can be known about God is clear to them because he has made it clear to them. 20 From the creation of the world, God’s invisible qualities, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly observed in what he made. As a result, people have no excuse. 21 They knew God but did not praise and thank him for being God. Instead, their thoughts were total nonsense, and their misguided minds were plunged into darkness. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools. 23 They exchanged the glory of the immortal God for statues that looked like mortal humans, birds, animals, and snakes.
24 For this reason God allowed their lusts to control them. As a result, they dishonor their bodies by secksual perversion with each other. 25 These people have exchanged God’s truth for a lie. So they have become ungodly and serve what is created rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen!

You are free to believe what you believe though. God all gave us free will. I am not God nor do I pretend to be. My knowledge of judgements and the ways of God are limited.

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I wake up every morning with free will. That's enough evidence for me.

Im fuking done... [pic]

I cant take it anymore. niccas in here have absolutely no humanity. We are by far the most unique animals in the whole kingdom. We have the ability to think, experiment, and reason.

Then we have motherfukas who waste their time talking about higher powers, and all that other fukery.

THINGS WE CANNOT TEST...

Why do people insist on arguing their beliefs in the higher power/god's. WHY!? Its such a pointless notion to dwell on, or even argue about. I say this because it offers nothing to help humanity. Why believe in something that isnt tangible or can be investigated and proven.
Do you understand what im saying?

Learning about life, how it was created, how it evolved is 20x more valuable to invest your brain power into. Than sitting there trying to say god and higher power's created everything. Religion/god has done absolutely nothing to advance the human race.

Throughout history religion divided us, kept us from thinking freely, and answering tough questions using experiments. Proving all the religious ideals false, time and time again. The earth is flat, the earth is the center, the earth and its inhabitant came to be in 7 days... So called prophets, telling partially instinctive human beings how to live, and governing their lives. Because a god/higher power is looking down upon them, in the heavens, clouds, inside of a rotton azzhole what ever.

YO PEOPLE GROW UP, EDUCATE YOURSELVES, HELP US SUSTAIN THE HUMAN RACE, SO WE CAN SEE THE UNIVERSE... Like i said we got 5 billion years left on this biitch, its been calculated that the sun will grow and engulf the earth/or blow up from its size. Slowly religion is phasing out, every century people are getting with the program. Im some what confident that by 2100 humans will stop believing in shiit they cant prove, and spend their lives problem solving, discover things, and thinking for themselves instead of waiting for god to do it for them. [pic]

kadillac87 eithered you niqqas for 8pages by himself[pic][pic][pic]
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Also their are different forms of christianity so plz stop lumping every religon into one category(spelling)

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see it's moronic posts like this that prove inconclusively that athiests dont know the 1st thing about the Bible and/or haven't read it with understanding...

A big problem here is a few people seem to be lumping faith and theory as equal levels of validity. Faith is believing something without evidence and theory is not just a guess. A theory starts as a hypothesis (an idea) that is then tested and if all tests and compared facts match the hypothesis then it graduates to a theory.
Thus we have faith, an idea that is supported by litterally nothing but believed anyways.
Then we have theory, an idea that is tested rigorously and matches perfectly with all facts thus far.

The only reason a "theory" is not a "fact" is because scientists are intellectually honest enough to admit that absolute knowledge of something is rare. Take the theory of gravity, it states that mass = gravity and in every observed instance an object of more mass has more gravity than something of less mass, but that doesn't mean that we might not some day go out and find something with lots of mass and little gravity and thus have to refine our understanding of gravity, thus not a fact but a theory. This does not make theories anywhere close to faith as theories instead ARE our best current understanding of the universe and how things in it work.

This said ALL the evidence currently matches an earth billions upon billions of years old. How much evidence supports a God? None. It doesn't mean there isn't one, it doesn't mean there isn't invisible flying apes of incredible power that hold everything to the ground and simulate weight either. Point being why on earth would you bother to believe in something before evidence supported it. I'd much rather wait until evidence came in and in the mean time when someone asks "how did everything come to be" be honest and say "we don't know yet".

A big problem here is a few people seem to be lumping faith and theory as equal levels of validity. Faith is believing something without evidence and theory is not just a guess. A theory starts as a hypothesis (an idea) that is then tested and if all tests and compared facts match the hypothesis then it graduates to a theory.
Thus we have faith, an idea that is supported by litterally nothing but believed anyways.
Then we have theory, an idea that is tested rigorously and matches perfectly with all facts thus far.

The only reason a "theory" is not a "fact" is because scientists are intellectually honest enough to admit that absolute knowledge of something is rare. Take the theory of gravity, it states that mass = gravity and in every observed instance an object of more mass has more gravity than something of less mass, but that doesn't mean that we might not some day go out and find something with lots of mass and little gravity and thus have to refine our understanding of gravity, thus not a fact but a theory. This does not make theories anywhere close to faith as theories instead ARE our best current understanding of the universe and how things in it work.

This said ALL the evidence currently matches an earth billions upon billions of years old. How much evidence supports a God? None. It doesn't mean there isn't one, it doesn't mean there isn't invisible flying apes of incredible power that hold everything to the ground and simulate weight either. Point being why on earth would you bother to believe in something before evidence supported it. I'd much rather wait until evidence came in and in the mean time when someone asks "how did everything come to be" be honest and say "we don't know yet".

A big problem here is a few people seem to be lumping faith and theory as equal levels of validity. Faith is believing something without evidence and theory is not just a guess. A theory starts as a hypothesis (an idea) that is then tested and if all tests and compared facts match the hypothesis then it graduates to a theory.
Thus we have faith, an idea that is supported by litterally nothing but believed anyways.
Then we have theory, an idea that is tested rigorously and matches perfectly with all facts thus far.

The only reason a "theory" is not a "fact" is because scientists are intellectually honest enough to admit that absolute knowledge of something is rare. Take the theory of gravity, it states that mass = gravity and in every observed instance an object of more mass has more gravity than something of less mass, but that doesn't mean that we might not some day go out and find something with lots of mass and little gravity and thus have to refine our understanding of gravity, thus not a fact but a theory. This does not make theories anywhere close to faith as theories instead ARE our best current understanding of the universe and how things in it work.

This said ALL the evidence currently matches an earth billions upon billions of years old. How much evidence supports a God? None. It doesn't mean there isn't one, it doesn't mean there isn't invisible flying apes of incredible power that hold everything to the ground and simulate weight either. Point being why on earth would you bother to believe in something before evidence supported it. I'd much rather wait until evidence came in and in the mean time when someone asks "how did everything come to be" be honest and say "we don't know yet".

See, the problem here is that any evidence that supports God, people are quick to try and find a natural explanation to explain it. Chariot wheels was found in the Red Sea that support the Exodus story of Moses. The Red Sea was split. Science goes back and say there was a strong wind that caused it.




Someone is miraculously healed, science says it's a coincidence. Any evidence presented will always be refuted because humans think they can explain any phenomenon by natural causes.

You say there is no evidence for God, but there is much archaeological evidence found that support the Bible. Again, you will not accept this evidence. You will say, oh, it's just something else. People have reconstructed Noah's ark based on the measurements in the Bible and found it to be more st@ble than most modern boats. Again, you will not accept this.

There are people who have experienced God. Their testimony is discredited. There are people who walked with Jesus, they still didn't believe. Nothing presented will ever be good enough for some people.

Again, I find it funny that you say all the evidence supports the Earth is billion of years old. Less than 100 years of observation is good enough to predict how something decayed billion of years ago? You don't find that funny? You are quick to dismiss the experiences and testimonies of others today but are quick to believe the[..]umptions of others who have no idea whether their work is even valid a billion years ago? So since it's science, we can ignore all of the gaps and profess it as the truth? Again, both rely on[..]umptions. You just can't see the logical gaps in science because of your bias. You are quick to accept everything is science as valid because of your bias against faith. That's ok, as long as you realize that's what you're doing.

Try reading Proverbs once in a while. Even if you don't believe in God, there's still a lot of valuable wisdom in there.