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Aug 27 - Mexico Now Has Universal Health Care


 Aug 27 - Mexico Now Has Universal Health Care
By JoeDoe22 - 08-27-2012, 07:12 AM - Boxden > BX Daily Bugle - news and headlines


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As the contenders and seconds in the United States’ presidential duel continue slapping each others’ cheeks with allegations about who loves Medicare more, Mexico has quietly (at least in decibels heard north of the border) achieved universal health coverage for all of its citizens.
That Mexico could join Canada, Britain, or Israel, among others, in providing for all of its citizens may seem especially remarkable given the country’s frequent one-dimensional depiction as a dystopian narco-state.

And of course, coverage isn’t equivalent to care. Mexico’s health system isn’t perfect, as a policy paper appearing online in The Lancet on Thursday made clear: “As for all countries,” wrote the paper’s 18 authors, led by Felicia Marie Knaul of the Harvard Global Equity Initiative, “quality of care is a moving target for Mexico.”


Mexico achieved universal health care, in part, by taking a diametrically different tack from the U.S.: Rather than strengthening the link between employment and the provision of insurance, Mexico severed any such tie and made health care a universal (and a constitutional) right. As a result, many of the lessons learned in the nine years since the nation began its Seguro Popular program and managed to cover 52 million previously uninsured (in a population of 100 million) Mexicans are not as immediately germane in the U.S. as they are to say Colombia, Ghana, Turkey, or Thailand.


There are lots of aspects of Seguro Popular that would be manifestly unpopular in the U.S., where even Obamacare’s minor shifting of oversight and direction to government generated howls. Besides the obvious nonstarter that the federal and state governments would be on the fiscal hook for the whole program, which is built on a public insurance plan, mandatory health checkups and federal electronic health registry of all citizens would inevitably set off libertarian klaxons. Providers, by the way, are a mix of public and private entities.

But for those who worry about tax burdens of supporting health care, it’s worth noting that the average Mexican’s out-of -pocket costs are falling (those can afford it are required to pay some premium costs) while their health outcomes are improving.
But overall spending, as a percentage of the gross domestic product, has risen, from 5.1 percent in 2000 to 6.3 percent in 2010. (It was 17.9 percent in the U.S. in 2010.) Mexico’s government is spending more on health, and the federal bureaucracy that controls it has seen its budget rise by 142 percent in that same period. Nonetheless, as an editorial accompanying The Lancet paper argues, “Health reform, done properly, boosts economic development.”

Mexico is not the United States. Its population is poorer, younger and on the whole less litigious. Expectations may be more muted. There’s a dearth of specialists, and many of its remote areas are truly remote.

Nonetheless, it’s worth restating: Mexico has achieved universal health care.


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50 comments for "Aug 27 - Mexico Now Has Universal Health Care"


 08-27-2012, 08:27 AMaway - #2
UrbanGAAWD
how the !! did that country figure it out before us.....republicans and democrats are both !!ing up, let's get this !! working for us
 08-27-2012, 10:05 AMaway - #3
420Heat
and noone will give a !!, except this is prolly th ebiggest story of the day

k
 08-27-2012, 02:58 PMaway - #4
EpodnamrA
too bad the hospitals are !!ty....

i waited hours for stitches once.

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 08-27-2012, 03:03 PMaway - #5
Damagegadget
Originally Posted by EpodnamrA
too bad the hospitals are !!ty....

i waited hours for stitches once.

[pic]
better than waiting indefinitely... or as in case of the homie getting your blood pressure checked and chalked up for 1200 dollars[pic]
 08-27-2012, 03:03 PMaway - #6
Damagegadget
if someone don't smiley that damn pic :mexicohah:
 08-27-2012, 03:10 PMaway - #7
SpyDa
good stuff
 08-27-2012, 03:48 PMaway - #8
GetuOne
Originally Posted by urbangatsby
how the !! did that country figure it out before us.....republicans and democrats are both !!ing up, let's get this !! working for us
Figure it out? Nah, their just the first to jump in. There is no promise this is going to work
 08-27-2012, 03:58 PMaway - #9
Trolling
I keep saying it It will be like the Day after Tomorrow . Our country will get so !!ty because of Political indecisiveness we will be begging to go to Mexico and they will close their borders /;...

Oh the Irony

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 08-27-2012, 04:08 PMaway - #10
CadillacVyse
Originally Posted by Damagegadget
if someone don't smiley that damn pic :mexicohah:
[pic] [pic]
 08-27-2012, 04:12 PMaway - #11
Storchaveli
Mexico.... won? [pic]





































!! our politicians. Get universal health care done.
 08-27-2012, 04:46 PMonline - #12
Special Edd
UNIVERSAL DRUGS AND BULLETS TOO.


give it up america will never have anything for free.
 08-27-2012, 07:17 PMaway - #13
Soda Pop
Now how the !! are between two countries that have some !! we pay for? [pic]
 08-27-2012, 08:25 PMaway - #14
Pakchoy
Originally Posted by urbangatsby
how the !! did that country figure it out before us.....republicans and democrats are both !!ing up, let's get this !! working for us
It's not a matter of figured. The US just doesn't want it. Too much politians getting their pockets lined with money.
 08-27-2012, 08:48 PMaway - #15
Insurgent313
Originally Posted by EpodnamrA
too bad the hospitals are !!ty....

i waited hours for stitches once.

[pic]
Not in jalisco homie we have some of the best medical schools in the country!! Plus I dont wait. My fam is plugged [pic] u picking up what im putting down? Ha..u must be bumy looking lol.
 08-27-2012, 08:52 PMonline - #16
Ham Rove
Originally Posted by ExKillaJJ
Notice how the areas with the worst medical care have universal health care [pic]
notice the morons with no facts say the dumbest !!.
 08-27-2012, 09:28 PMonline - #17
Ham Rove
Originally Posted by ExKillaJJ
America has better medical care than every other country in the world. We dont have universal health care.

No other country comes close to us. People go overseas because we dont treat them here. They come back worse. Even if they go to Europe. They have bad medical care.

/discussion
lol again no facts, stop repeating factless GOP talking points. Our Healthcare system is not the best in the world. Im gonna take a page from your retard book now

/Discussion
 08-27-2012, 09:29 PMaway - #18
Boo The Fool
USA lost....[pic]
 08-27-2012, 09:32 PMonline - #19
Ham Rove
(Reuters) - Americans spend twice as much as residents of other developed countries on healthcare, but get lower quality, less efficiency and have the least equitable system, according to a report released on Wednesday.

The United States ranked last when compared to six other countries -- Britain, Canada, Germany, Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand, the Commonwealth Fund report found.

"As an American it just bothers me that with all of our know-how, all of our wealth, that we are not[..]uring that people who need healthcare can get it," Commonwealth Fund president Karen Davis told reporters in a telephone briefing.

Previous reports by the nonprofit fund, which conducts research into healthcare performance and promotes changes in the U.S. system, have been heavily used by policymakers and politicians pressing for healthcare reform.

Davis said she hoped health reform legislation pa#sed in March would lead to improvements.

The current report uses data from nationally representative patient and physician surveys in seven countries in 2007, 2008, and 2009. It is available here

In 2007, health spending was $7,290 per person in the United States, more than double that of any other country in the survey.

Australians spent $3,357, Canadians $3,895, Germans $3,588, the Netherlands $3,837 and Britons spent $2,992 per capita on health in 2007. New Zealand spent the least at $2,454.

This is a big rise from the Fund's last similar survey, in 2007, which found Americans spent $6,697 per capita on healthcare in 2005, or 16 percent of gross domestic product.

"We rank last on safety and do poorly on several dimensions of quality," Schoen told reporters. "We do particularly poorly on going without care because of cost. And we also do surprisingly poorly on access to primary care and after-hours care."

NETHERLANDS RANKED FIRST OVERALL

The report looks at five measures of healthcare -- quality, efficiency, access to care, equity and the ability to lead long, healthy, productive lives.

Britain, whose nationalized healthcare system was widely derided by opponents of U.S. healthcare reform, ranks first in quality while the Netherlands ranked first overall on all scores, the Commonwealth team found.

U.S. patients with chronic conditions were the most likely to say they gotten the wrong drug or had to wait to learn of abnormal test results.

"The findings demonstrate the need to quickly implement provisions in the new health reform law," the report reads.

Critics of reports that show Europeans or Australians are healthier than Americans point to the U.S. lifestyle as a bigger factor than healthcare. Americans have higher rates of obesity than other developed countries, for instance.

"On the other hand, the other countries have higher rates of smoking," Davis countered. And Germany, for instance, has a much older population more prone to chronic disease.

Every other system covers all its citizens, the report noted and said the U.S. system, which leaves 46 million Americans or 15 percent of the population without health insurance, is the most unfair.

"The lower the performance score for equity, the lower the performance on other measures. This suggests that, when a country fails to meet the needs of the most vulnerable, it also fails to meet the needs of the average citizen," the report reads.
 08-27-2012, 09:33 PMaway - #20
MosDefinition
Originally Posted by ExKillaJJ
Notice how the areas with the worst medical care have universal health care [pic]
u.s. life expectancy as compared to other countries with universal health care isnt higher
 
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