Apr 9 - Arizona bill declares women pregnant two weeks before conception

A new bill up for vote in the state of Arizona would ban abortions for some expectant mothers, but that’s only the start of what lawmakers have in store. If the legislation pa#ses, the state will consider a child to exist even before conception.

Under Arizona’s H.B. 2036, the state would recognize the start of the unborn child’s life to be the first day of its mother’s last menstrual period. The legislation is being proposed so that lawmakers can outlaw abortions on fetuses past the age of 20-weeks, but the verbiage its authors use to construct a time cycle for the baby would mean that the start of the child's life could very well occur up to two weeks before the mother and father even ponder procreating.

On page eight of the proposed amendment to H.B. 2036, lawmakers lay out the “gestational age” of the child to be “calculated from the first day of the last menstrual period of the pregnant woman,” and from there, outlaws abortion “if the probable gestational age of [the] unborn child has been determined to be at least twenty weeks.”

The architects of the amendment say that prohibiting abortion after 20 weeks — except in cases of medical emergency — is necessary for the safety of both mother and child. By designating a life to begin weeks before even possible, however, some critics are condemning Arizona lawmakers for looking for a way to involve itself in abortion matters before it can even become an issue.

“Certainly, they are trying move the gestational cutoff from what had been over the last two years a 20-week gestational cutoff to an 18-week gestational cutoff,” Guttmacher Institute’s State Issues Manager Elizabeth Nash tells Raw Story. “At the same time, they are trying to say, ‘Oh, this is a 20-week abortion ban.’ And they get away with that with the definition of gestational age that’s in the bill.”

“Considering that it’s anti-choice nuts we’re talking about, it’s safe to[..]ume that they’d simply prefer a situation where all women of reproductive age are considered to be pregnant, on the grounds that they could be two weeks from now,” RH Reality Check’s Amanda Marcotte adds in a recently-penned editorial. “Better safe than sorry, especially if that mentality means you get to exert maximum control over the bodies of women of reproductive age.”

In extending her support for the legislation, however, sponsor Nancy Barto, a Republican senator representing the Phoenix, Arizona area says that fetuses are able to feel pain after the 20-week mark. Also favoring the proposal, Senator Steve Smith (R-Maricopa) adds that lawmakers also need to consider “the 50 million-plus children who have been k#lled” since the US Supreme Court legalized abortion in Roe v Wade.

"I would like to listen to the 50 million-plus children that have been aborted and k#lled since Roe v. Wade,'' the senator says."I would like to listen to what they think of this bill.''

Mother Jones adds in their own reporting, however, that while the law could be explained as an effort to deter complications that come from late-term abortions, opening up the window for the gestational age to begin before conception can hurt the parents in the long run. Essentially the act would outlaw abortion after 18 weeks, not 20 as the legislation claims, which could keep some concerned parents from making a decision about pregnancy before some medical procedures that gauge the health of the child are able to be determined. While some tests can be conducted soon after conception to catch potential life-threatening conditions and other impairments, outlawing abortions after the eighteenth week could keep parents from opting for abortion after other tests can be carried out (before the 20-week mark).

H.B. 2036 pa#sed in the Arizona Senator by 20-to-10 and will soon go before the state’s House. To Raw Story, Elizabeth Nash says she believes the bill has a “very good chances of pa#sage.”

Essentially the act would outlaw abortion after 18 weeks — except in cases of medical emergency [pic]


Abortion is d|sgusting...

If you don't know in 3 months after being pregnant weather you want the kid or not, WTF you doing even having se#. And after that point, why would you take a human's life when ppl will adopt any child now-a-days

I mean who gives you or anyone for that matter the right to make that decision for others?

the ignorance and irony in this statement alone is pretty d|sgusting as well

Abortion is wrong because you are taking someone's life

That's got nothing to do with religion does it?

The [rip] Penalty is wrong too

the ignorance and irony in this statement alone is pretty d|sgusting as well

Abortion is wrong because you are taking someone's life

That's got nothing to do with religion does it?

The [rip] Penalty is wrong too

You know what is d|sgusting? Forcing your personal and often religious beliefs on others and enact laws to enforce those beliefs. You don't like abortions? Then don't have one, but allow others to make that same choice without your continual interference.
I mean who gives you or anyone for that matter the right to make that decision for others?
Its non of your business what women decide to do in private. If a woman wants to have an abortion, what right do you have to stop her? What part of that do you and Republicans in general don't get? You constantly call for smaller government, yet intrude into the most private aspects of other people's lives. [pic]
I love your comment about why are they having se# if they don't want a kid. I have se# every night with my fiance and we don't want kids. So now you want to stop people from having se# if it isn't for procreation? That is just absurd, intrusive and overstepping many boundaries.

The impact of abortion on the African-American community has become a serious crisis, but is only now beginning to get much attention. Dr. Alveda King, the niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, said: “Abortion is a racist, genocidal act. Children are the future. When you destroy your children, you destroy hope.”

What is the leading cause of [rip] for African-Americans? Common answers range from cancer or heart disease to gang violence. Tragically, the correct answer is abortion. More African-Americans have died from abortion than have died from AIDS, accidents, violent crimes, cancer, and heart disease combined.

African Americans comprise 13% of the population, yet African American women have 35% of abortions. Their abortion rate is three times higher than average and four times the rate for white women. Since the Roe v. Wade decision, nearly 17 million black babies have been aborted, reducing the potential black population by almost one third.

How am I being ignorant. If my fiance and I want an abortion, we have every right to. If my sister, mom, niece, friend or cousins want to have abortions, then they should be able to. It is legal under our constitution. So where is the ignorant part at?

Plus I don't see it as murk anyway. And since I conceived the fetus with said female, I don't think it is any of your business or the governments if we abort that fetus.

I've had 4 abortions with 3 different women. And I still don't consider any one of those incidents murk. And neither did my state.

So you see it as murk, and I see it as taking responsibility and not bringing a child into this world that I neither wanted or care for. [pic]

I've had 4 abortions with 3 different women. And I still don't consider any one of those incidents murk. And neither did my state.

You know what is d|sgusting? Forcing your personal and often religious beliefs on others and enact laws to enforce those beliefs. You don't like abortions? Then don't have one, but allow others to make that same choice without your continual interference.

? What part of that do you and Republicans in general don't get? You constantly call for smaller government, yet intrude into the most private aspects of other people's lives.

This a great example of how lazy are country is becoming...
Lets k#ll the kid, instead of taking responsibility...


You've agreed to the [rip] of more ppl than OJ simpson murked..

Kids who could have been the next Micheal Jordan, Albert Einstein.




I literally threw up in my mouth...

How am I being ignorant. If my fiance and I want an abortion, we have every right to. If my sister, mom, niece, friend or cousins want to have abortions, then they should be able to. It is legal under our constitution. So where is the ignorant part at?

I've had 4 abortions with 3 different women. And I still don't consider any one of those incidents murk. And neither did my state.

If you just offin babies cuz you don't want them then you a worse than a murker and should be removed from this earth. Wear a !!in rubber if you ain't prepared to get someone knocked up talkin bout 4 abortions gtfo wtf kinda person are you. Shouldnt be allowed to reproduce period

This a great example of how lazy are country is becoming...
Lets k#ll the kid, instead of taking responsibility...


You've agreed to the [rip] of more ppl than OJ simpson murked..

Kids who could have been the next Micheal Jordan, Albert Einstein.




I literally threw up in my mouth...

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Ignorant: Lacking knowledge or awareness in general..

You know protection ($1 condom) will prevent you from getting another baby k#lled right??

I agree I would never tell anyone that again might get your head kicked in