[DarkSidesHero]

Misuse of ABGX. heh.

[akademiks]

Originally Posted by Temerity Doesn't make sense. Just because you get games for free doesn't mean you'll be able to afford a new console. Infact the reason people mod their consoles is because buying games is too much money, so obviously they don't have alot of money do they.

Exactly...
People act like just because you saved $1000's worth of games that you can buy the same amount in systems every time you get banned.. It's not a lot of money but it's about the principle.

I don't even play games much but I've got a kid in my house and I literally had to burn 4 different copies of Madden '10 because the little f**ker keeps finding ways to get the disc out of the console.. There's no way I'd be paying nearly $250 to keep replacing my Madden discs that get f**ked up..

[DarkSidesHero]

Kushan wrote a nice little article on #FW@EFnet summarizing all kinda info we have about the current Console Live Ban Wave:

- What does this mean for you and what can you do about it? Firstly, and most obviously, you cannot connect to Xbox Live on this console any more. This means no more game updates (aka title updates), XBLA games, marketplace content, netflix/sky player and so on. There is no way around this, all online capabilities are now disabled PERMANENTLY. In all likelihood, your gamertag has NOT BEEN BANNED. When your gamertag gets banned, Microsoft sends you an email detailing why, if you have not recieved this email then your profile should be ok, to a certain extent. Hard Drive installs are now disabled on the banned console. This means any disk-based games you have will no longer play off of the hard drive. If you attempt to play a game, it will tell you that it was installed on a different 360 and needs to be deleted/installed again. When you delete the game and attempt to install it, you are given a message telling you that it is not supported. There is no way to fix this, that functionality is simply gone from the banned 360. The hard drive itself is left untouched - you can place it in another 360, even an unbanned one, and it will still work just fine. You do NOT need to reformat it to regain any kind of functionality. Any installed games will need to be reinstalled for the console you want to play them on. This is normal behaviour and happens when swapping HDDs on unbanned/legit 360's. Windows Media Centre functionality is disabled. It is still possible to stream video/music content via the video library. Your Gamertag may be corrupted. This does not mean your gamertag has been banned, you can recover it using any live-capable 360, however ANY ACHIVEMENTS YOU HAVE EARNED SINCE BEING BANNED WILL BE LOST. Your gamertag will be corrupted EVERY SINGLE TIME it is used on a banned console. This means you cannot use your banned console to play backups offline just to get achievements - it wont work, the second you put your profile back on a good 360, it will be corrupted and all progress lost. There is no way around this. The same applies to game saves - if you access a game save on a banned 360, it too will be corrupted when accessed on a legit/unbanned 360! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! There is no way around this, either. Your XBLA games and DLC will still be valid, however to play them on a different 360 you will need to be signed into Xbox Live. This is normal behaviour on unbanned/legit 360's as well. They may be corrupted and have to be re-downloaded if you attempt to access them on a banned 360. You can transfer all of your downloaded content to a new 360 here: Xbox.com | System Use - Transferring Content Licenses to a New Console however note that you can only do it once every 12 months. So, in summary: Your Banned 360: * Cannot go on Xbox Live * Cannot install games to the HDD * Cannot use Windows Media Centre extender * Cannot be used to get achievements from backups without corrupting your profile You cannot do anything about this, short of buying a new 360. There may be more functionality disabled than mentioned here, things are still being discovered. - So what caused my ban? There are MANY theories as to what is causing so many consoles to get banned this time, however as of yet there is nothing concrete, just a lot of circumstantial evidence and speculation. Please do not add to this, a full investigation is under-way. c4eva, the main guy behind iXtreme, had this to say: <+c4eva> fw itself not detectable <+c4eva> suspect they are going hard on warez releases and incorrect use of abgx! He also added the following: <+c4eva> just to let you know that im looking into the current ban wave. I am currently running several brand new xboxs on live! These xboxs are in various configs. All are running ixtreme 1.61 <+c4eva> One is running original discs, another is running on xbl (no discs) , another is running a backup from my region! <+c4eva> until tests are completed, no eta on liteon fw! When we know more, YOU'LL no more, so please do not ask for updates! A full transcript is available here - pastebin - Something - post number 1660777 Remember, if you really want to blame someone, blame the person that decided to modify your 360 in the first place - most likey, that would be you ;

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[akademiks]

I thought that if you go online with your hard drive out that you can still install games to the HDD?

[famoussasjohn]

Originally Posted by akademiks I thought that if you go online with your hard drive out that you can still install games to the HDD?

What? If you take out the hdd you won't be able to store s**t. Until you have a memory card. Which won't be enougH memory.
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[akademiks]

Originally Posted by famoussasjohn What? If you take out the hdd you won't be able to store s**t. Until you have a memory card. Which won't be enougH memory. Posted via Mobile Device

I mean... that if you go online to see if you got banned or not. You can still test your network settings without an HDD in, right?

I haven't checked if I've been banned yet but if it means losing so much of the console's functionality to check then, I'm not sure I'm even gonna bother.

[DarkSidesHero]

Originally Posted by akademiks I mean... that if you go online to see if you got banned or not. You can still test your network settings without an HDD in, right? I haven't checked if I've been banned yet but if it means losing so much of the console's functionality to check then, I'm not sure I'm even gonna bother.

Yes you can still test the network settings without the HDD

[famoussasjohn]

Originally Posted by DarkSidesHero Yes you can still test the network settings without the HDD

yep I did that last night because I got the error code on the repair
page. But I doubt that is reliable and proof of being banned. More than likely they canceled it for people doing repairs online and have to call in. But I'm still on live.
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[DarkSidesHero]

Originally Posted by famoussasjohn yep I did that last night because I got the error code on the repair page. But I doubt that is reliable and proof of being banned. More than likely they canceled it for people soon repairs online and have to call in. But I'm still on live. Posted via Mobile Device

I got that error page one my old console that was modded. But i didnt get it on this other non-modded console i had. who knows

[ILayLowFoShow]

Well For what its worth..I ripped my retail copy of MW2 and my SS CRC and RawSS (I believe those will always be different), DMI and Date of Mastering (10/6/2009) are all different from the RROD copy of the game....Wondering if MS is using that info to tell who is playing what version and banning.....

[akademiks]

Originally Posted by ILayLowFoShow Well For what its worth..I ripped my retail copy of MW2 and my SS CRC and RawSS (I believe those will always be different), DMI and Date of Mastering (10/6/2009) are all different from the RROD copy of the game....Wondering if MS is using that info to tell who is playing what version and banning.....

RROD version is from the COD XBOX bundle..

[Firestarr]

Well if it's not the firmware....than it had to be a bad rip or something I played early. I guess I will know soon I got my backup modded box running and I'm only playing madden and 2k10. So if i get banned there definetly detecting firmware.

[jayvivz]

What makes c4eva so sure his precious iXtreme is undetectable? Sounds like denial.

[Da Ill One|M]

Originally Posted by jayvivz What makes c4eva so sure his precious iXtreme is undetectable? Sounds like denial.

MS can't detect the firmware...they can only detect what the firmware does...for instance they can't tell if you have 1.51, 1.6, or 1.61 but they know if you're playing a Wave 4 game when you shouldn't be...or if you have a faster response time then normal and other variables but they can't tell which FW you are running...that's impossible unless you plugged it into a PC and ran a fw check...which those can't be run online because it has to have an actual physical connection to read it...

[Comic Book Guy]

Originally Posted by Firestarr Well if it's not the firmware....than it had to be a bad rip or something I played early. I guess I will know soon I got my backup modded box running and I'm only playing madden and 2k10. So if i get banned there definetly detecting firmware.

Those are two of the games believed to be bad rips, you double check them in ABGX?

[Firestarr]

Originally Posted by Comic Book Guy Those are two of the games believed to be bad rips, you double check them in ABGX?

yea i did... anyway this is day 2 still no ban...

i went Clean everything.. reformatted HDD, new profile , new copies of both games with microsoft 1 month free trial.. so if i get banned atleast i aint pay for live.

[Da Ill One|M]

just sold my system for $250 on craigslist...chilling till Black Friday and copping the pro with two games for $200 from Bestbuy (rumored ad deal)...got the non modded elite and PS3 to hold me over till then...then when the modded is safe again i'll go that route

[Comic Book Guy]

guys, i called xbox and they told me my console was gonna get banned. i havent gotten banned yet, though. if i take the hdd off of the "flagged" console and put it onto a new UNMODDED arcade console, could anything go wrong? would they wrongfully ban my new console? or is it specifically by serial #?

[AyeDre]

Originally Posted by Da Ill One just sold my system for $250 on craigslist...chilling till Black Friday and copping the pro with two games for $200 from Bestbuy (rumored ad deal)...got the non modded elite and PS3 to hold me over till then...then when the modded is safe again i'll go that route

*waiting for that deal too* if its true...

[Da Ill One|M]

Originally Posted by Comic Book Guy guys, i called xbox and they told me my console was gonna get banned. i havent gotten banned yet, though. if i take the hdd off of the "flagged" console and put it onto a new arcade console, could anything go wrong? would they wrongfully ban my new console? or is it specifically by serial #?

they will ban the right console...take your HDD off and you will be fine on another system...

what exactly did they tell you? and did you ask them if you're flagged?