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Got Bad Credit?? Need It Fixed??


 Got Bad Credit?? Need It Fixed??
 08-12-2006, 12:10 AMaway - #81
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Originally Posted by currybai
I am a college student and for some reason when i apply for a credit card, I never ever get accepted, they said i owe something according to my credit report, but i never ever owned a credit card in my life. WHere can i check my credit report? and how can i get it resolved? thank you
you can request a credit report from the company that ran one on your. or you can goto they will give you a free report...
 08-14-2006, 08:50 AMaway - #82
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CHEck this out.. IM acutally going to do this process. NOw working on finding the right banks.
Est@blish AAA Credit in 30 Days

To work this plan you need at least $400 to begin. You should borrow this from your friends if necessary. Then go to a bank of your choice and deposit the $400 into a regular passbook savings account.

Wait a few days for the account to be posted and return to the bank to ask for a $400 loan - you offer the passbook as collateral. Since the bank is already holding your $400, you go to another bank open a savings account lending you another $400 and they won't even make a credit check. Then, with your borrowed $400, you go to another bank, open a savings account, return a few days later, borrow $400 from that bank using your passbook as collateral.

Then repeat the process at a third bank with your borrowed $400. Wait a few days to go to a fourth bank where you open this time a CHECKING account. Wait a few days and make a payment on each of the other three loans. A week later, make payments again on the three loans, and continue paying each week until you have almost paid off the balance.

A credit investigation at this point will show you with three active bank loans (which are considered hard to get), a checking account, and a paying history for the three bank loans - with you having paid up in advance. Thus, you have AAA credit in as little as 30 days.

From here you go on to apply for loans, credit cards, and other items on credit.
 08-15-2006, 08:31 AMaway - #83
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i doubt its that easy. maybe before 9/11 it was that easy but i doubt it now.
 08-15-2006, 03:51 PMaway - #84
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If you're down to put in some time, here is a trick I used awhile back.

When you're in highschool or college or have no credit, you can get good credit. I now have a credit score of 767.

I did this by:

Opening up Department Store cards (Macy's, Marshall Fields, JC Penny, etc). Open up like 3 to begin with.

Now charge $100 on each of those cards at the store. Return the items back next week and get a full refund.

Now you might wonder how this will boost your credit.

Well, the credit card bureau record purchases and pay backs. They do not record if something was returned. The bureaus see you paid back the item, when in actuality, you just returned the item and got 100% refund (leaving you with no debt).

You have to be a little sparactic with your spending. The bureaus catch on patterns.

Here's how I would do it:

Week 1: Spend $100 on each store (3 stores) = -$300
Week 2: Return Items = +$300
Week 2: Spend $100 on each store (3 stores) = -$300
Open another department store card
Spend $100
Total= = - $400
Week 3: Return Items = $400

And so on and so on....



* Make sure you read the return policies at the stores. You dont want to be stuck with a $100 pair of Polo boxers.
 08-26-2006, 01:41 PMaway - #85
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props on this thread my dude
 09-06-2006, 11:41 PMaway - #86
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Here is a good coupon for a great site, save 20% off of any credit check package at . Use coupon code CPPSAVINGS
 09-07-2006, 08:29 PMaway - #87
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Good look on that... PRopz
 09-09-2006, 07:30 AMaway - #88
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Some more info...
Pt.1
The Credit Scoring Model

What it is...
Okay, now on to the credit report scoring systems. The scoring model system came into being about nine years ago. The Fair, Isaac Company, developed it a computer software designer (hence the acronym "FICO").

The scoring system is licensed out to The Big Three credit repositories, which in turn call it by individual names to help differentiate which repository is issuing which score. Experian calls their score a FICO; Equifax calls theirs the Enhanced Beacon; and Transunion calls theirs the Empirica Model.

The score that each repository issues on their individual reports is a reflection of the information that repository has on an individual in their respective credit files. So, the score issued by each repository will usually be different from the other repository's scores. The primary repository will usually have the most accurate score, and if the borrower has had any credit problems over the past few years, the primary repository will usually have the lowest credit score.

However, it will sometime work in reverse - if the borrower has recently cleaned up his credit history, the primary repository will usually have the most accurate updates, and in that case, the primary repository may likely show the highest score.

You can look at two different repository's reports on a borrower, and in reviewing the credit profiles; you usually can see what differences in the credit information are likely causing the different scores.

How It Works
Using a complex matrix measuring over 30 different variables in an individual's credit profile, the Fair, Isaacs program converts the profile into a numeric score which is added to an individual's credit report. That score is a reflection of the computer a$signed credit risk for that individual. The intent is to reduce the amount of subjectivity credit decision makers (underwriters) inject into the risk analysis process. The most important variables for mortgage loans are as follows:

Mortgage history
Derogatory Credit History
Liens or Judgements
Length of Credit History
Depth of Credit History
Proportion of Debt to Credit Balances
Amount of Available Credit

Generically speaking, the scores can run from 0 to 1,000. The highest I have ever seen is an 863. However, it is generally accepted that anyone with a 700 credit score is A credit, and over 720 is AA credit. Individual lenders technically a$sign their own credit grades to the credit scores, but between various lenders they are usually pretty close as to what score constitutes what grade. Here is an approximation of the credit score/grade:

Score Credit Grade
720 and up AA
700 to 719 A
680 to 699 A-/B+
660 to 679 B+/B
640 to 659 B
620 to 639 B-/C+/C
600 to 619 C/D
580 to 599 D/F
579 and below F

It is important to recognize that these scores are not just about derogatory credit history. They are about determining credit risk a$sociated with a particular borrower, and points are added or taken away based on many different factors related to your credit profile.

For example, once you begin start using credit accounts, you are usually going to have a credit score in the 565 to 580 range. Why so low? Well, you are just starting out, and you have no credit history to rate. Once you have 12 months of usage on your accounts, you will begin adding points to your credit history. Or if you mess up, you will destroy your credit quickly, and then you really face a tough uphill climb.

You are considered high risk when you start out, because you haven't really proven yourself yet. As you slowly build credit over a year's time, your score will start climbing. But now the paradox sets in. Each time you add a new credit account to your history, your score will drop. Why? Because you have added more debt to your credit load. However, once you have shown the ability to handle the new debt as well, your score will recover, usually in about six months. Once you have a 12-month rating on the new account, you will start having points added to your credit score.

Over time, you build your credit up by scoring points. To score points, you have to use credit, and your creditors have to report your accounts to the credit bureaus. Having a $200 tab at a local restaurant won't help you a bit, no matter how good your payment record is.

You also have to pay your bills on time. Every time you show a late pay, you lose points, and it takes an awful long time to recover them. Once you show 36 months of timely payment history on any account, you are earning the maximum points. Generally speaking, you will have an excellent credit score when you have four major accounts ($1,500 credit limits or higher) all with 36 months spotless payment history, and all usually maintaining balances that are at or below 60% of your available credit limits.

A mortgage rating will boost your score even further. You start collecting points on a mortgage at 12 months, and max out at 36 months. Obviously, this too is where you will lose the most points if you have any late pays on your mortgage history, and where it takes you the longest to recover any lost points.

Where you see scores in the 770 and up range, you will usually see about 8 to10 years history, with 3 to 4 revolving credit accounts that are rarely maxed out, a sterling mortgage history, and two or more major installment accounts (like car loans/leases) that have been paid off. If the report shows any late pays, it was likely a 30 day, one time, on a revolving account, over three years ago.

How about the guy who never misses a payment, always pays on time, and still only has a 640 credit score? Well, if he uses a lot of credit, it could be that he has too many accounts, and he carries high balances (over 60%) in relation to the credit limits. Or he could be making too many minimum monthly payments, instead of sizable payments. Or yesterday he had a 685 score, but today he has a new $25,000 credit card, with a new $20,000 balance on it. Or he has good credit, but he only has four accounts, no mortgage history, and three of the accounts are less than 24 months old.

The scoring model has weighted adjustments as well. The guy who has a strong credit history, and a lot of depth in his credit report, and blip... there pops up a 30 day late. Well, it's been 60 days since, and the late pay wasn't on a mortgage or a car loan, so he's probably going to lose about 3 points on his credit score. If it was a mortgage or a car loan, he will lose about 10 points.

The guy with the 660 score? He's probably going to lose about 10 points on a revolving account late... if it's a mortgage or car loan, he might lose as much as 20 points. At 620, the revolving late will cost him15 to 20 points, and a mortgage or car late could cost him a 30-point reduction in his score.

See, a computer can't tell if you are a deadbeat, or under financial strain, or just nonchalant about paying your bills on time. And it really doesn't matter what the reason is. All the computer knows is that if your score was already low, and you are making late payments, you are a credit risk - by giving you a low score, indicating you are a high credit risk, the credit report tells the next guy to loan you money that he is probably going to regret it!
 09-09-2006, 07:30 AMaway - #89
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here is Pt.2
Reliability of Scoring Models
For a lot of people, it doesn't seem fair. But the truth is, with the advent of the scoring models, more people can borrow more money than ever before. Risk analysis has become more quantifiable, and lenders are more confident now with the predictability factors in their loan portfolio management. Thus, they are comfortable offering more loan programs, and managing the risk by adjusting the interest rates and loan to value ratios according to credit score.

The models aren't perfect, and a lot of mistakes still occur. But there has been extensive research and verification on the reliability of the scoring models, by heavyweights such as FNMA and FHLMC. The research holds up. If you are a 640 FICO, you are a greater risk than a 700 FICO individual. You personally may never have a problem on a new loan, but of all the loans that lender made to 640 FICO borrowers; he knows he is going to have a higher default rate that on the pool of loans he made to 700 FICO borrowers.

More than that, he knows approximately what the percentage rate difference of the defaults is going to be between the two groups, and he will adjust his interest rates to make up for the higher losses he is going to absorb for the lower scoring group. He has no way of knowing if it will be you, or the other 640 FICO individuals who default... only that it will happen at a higher rate than 700 FICO defaults. And of course, if you are a 600 FICO, the risk you pose more than doubles.

Now here's the fun part. Figuring out where you rate in terms of credit grade. For a car dealer, if you have two decent lines of credit, and you had a couple of payment problems over two years ago, but you have been clean since, even though your score is a 585, he's going to get you a loan. To build you up, he tells you that you have "A" credit, so you are not paying as much attention to the financing being at 14.99% instead of the 8.99% that a real "A" borrower is getting. And not knowing any better, you go out the door thinking you are an "A" credit borrower.

Same thing with some of the consumer loan companies, or electronics stores, carpet stores, furniture stores and so forth that either carry their own financing, or have profit sharing arrangements with consumer finance companies. It is worth keeping in mind that these types of companies can easily repossess the goods, or come after you in court, without a great deal of risk in terms of loss. It's a lot easier to get credit from those kinds of lenders.

Same things with credit card offers. But, these scores can make a big difference in the card offers you receive, what kind of credit limits they will ultimately give you, and what kind of interest rates they are going to charge - both introductory and long term.

If you have a 700 FICO score, everybody wants your business, and you are going to find your mailbox stuffed with credit card offers all the time. You are also going to see a lot of 2.9% and 3.9% promotional rates for as long as 12-month periods, $10,000 to $25,000 credit lines, and long term fixed rates as low as 7.99%

If you are in the 660 to 699 range, you're mailbox is going to be stuffed too... and you'll probably see a lot of six month 2.9% to 3.9% introductory offers as well. But you'll likely see most of your long-term rates hovering in the 12.99% to 15.99% range.

Chances are, you'll still see a lot of credit card offers in the 620 to 659 range, but you are going to be getting mostly generic standard high rate credit card offers. Some will offer you 3.9% introductory rates, but most of them will be for about three months or so, and then the card cranks up to 17.99% or higher, on a variable rate basis.

From 600 to 619, you'll still get quite a few offers too, but not too many low introductory offers. You might even get one or two that might offer you up to a $5,000 credit limit, but most will be in the $1,000 to $3,000 range, and you'll be starting right out at the 17.99% and up variable rates.

With a 580 to 599 credit score, you'll be seeing a lot of offers too - but they will be for $500 to $1,000 credit lines, no introductory low rate offers, and most will be starting out in the 19.99% and up variable interest rate range. Many of the offers will be for secured cards - in other words, to get the card, you have to post a savings account deposit with the card issuer, and you will only get a credit limit equal to your deposit. Most of these plans limit you to $500 until you show a 12-month rating on the account.

We hope you found this information helpful. Mortgage At|vantage is a full service financing company. If you have any Credit-related questions or needs, our consulting staff will be happy to help you.
 09-14-2006, 05:40 PMaway - #90
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I have a question.... My Equifax rating is 555; I recently put $900 down on a $2500 engagement ring. I was thinking do you think it would be a good idea to apply for the jewelers credit to pay for the rest of the ring. I heard the more inquiries on your credit report the more it hurts your rating. Do you guys think I would get it?
 09-14-2006, 05:42 PMaway - #91
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you only got like $1600 left to pay, just get the $$ together and pay for it 1time. but yea I heard the more inquires on your credit report that get declined isn't a good look.
 09-14-2006, 09:49 PMaway - #92
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Originally Posted by hmarcelus
I have a question.... My Equifax rating is 555; I recently put $900 down on a $2500 engagement ring. I was thinking do you think it would be a good idea to apply for the jewelers credit to pay for the rest of the ring. I heard the more inquiries on your credit report the more it hurts your rating. Do you guys think I would get it?
does ne one else have ne thoughts
 09-18-2006, 05:41 PMaway - #93
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shizz what do you think?
 09-18-2006, 05:51 PMaway - #94
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how inquiries work:

a common misconception is that inquiries will hurt your score. while this is true, it depends on the case.

inquiries from mortgage companies and car loans hurt worse than others because of the amount of money involved. however, the only time inquires will drop your score is if you have a lot of inquiries within a short period of time.

for instance, 1 inquiry a week can drop your score substantially, 1 inquiry a month is pushing it. 1 every other month is not looked at.

as long as your dont have a bunch of other inquiries, you should be okay.
 09-18-2006, 06:47 PMaway - #95
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Originally Posted by ladyofrage
how inquiries work:

a common misconception is that inquiries will hurt your score. while this is true, it depends on the case.

inquiries from mortgage companies and car loans hurt worse than others because of the amount of money involved. however, the only time inquires will drop your score is if you have a lot of inquiries within a short period of time.

for instance, 1 inquiry a week can drop your score substantially, 1 inquiry a month is pushing it. 1 every other month is not looked at.

as long as your dont have a bunch of other inquiries, you should be okay.
what do you think my chances are of getting the credit for the ring
 09-18-2006, 07:13 PMaway - #96
ladyofrage 

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what jeweler are you going to?
 09-18-2006, 09:26 PMaway - #97
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Originally Posted by hmarcelus
shizz what do you think?
If you just want to try it and you havent had a any inquries in a while.. go ahead wont hurt. but if you have had any recent ones. dont press you luck on it.

Jewlers usualy want a credit score of something of a 600 and up..
some may want somthing at 580 or higher.. 555 is a low score which scores on a low scale.. alot of jewlers go through major banks.. if you call the bank first and ask them what the requirements are for credit they will tell you.

but i wouldnt press it.. you dont have that much to charge and paying intrest for nothing is stupid..

wife's wedding ring was on a layway plan which was 5 g's i made payments on it every month.

but like Rage siad Find out what Jeweler (bank) they use and ask them.
 09-18-2006, 09:52 PMaway - #98
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Originally Posted by ladyofrage
what jeweler are you going to?
marks and morgan
 09-18-2006, 10:20 PMaway - #99
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Originally Posted by ladyofrage
how inquiries work:

a common misconception is that inquiries will hurt your score. while this is true, it depends on the case.

inquiries from mortgage companies and car loans hurt worse than others because of the amount of money involved. however, the only time inquires will drop your score is if you have a lot of inquiries within a short period of time.

for instance, 1 inquiry a week can drop your score substantially, 1 inquiry a month is pushing it. 1 every other month is not looked at.

as long as your dont have a bunch of other inquiries, you should be okay.
co-sign
 09-19-2006, 02:07 AMaway - #100
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marks and morgans may approve you but i doubt for that amount. you may get like 800 bucks. try it anyway. jewelers base credit on more than the score so i would try anyway.
 
 


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