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 Is a college degree worth the cost? You decide.
 12-10-2012, 04:29 PMaway - #61
MOTTAFOOKAH
Originally Posted by Dareupgang
I'll start of by saying I do think college is worth it, not all from an educational point of view, but as a combination of the social growth you experience and the education you're suppose to absorb. I think the better question is are private institutions worth vastly cost they charge now? That i don't think so I go to public school and maybe its because my major its actually harder than some of the best private schools. I'm a mechanical engineering major at City College of New York and I have professors that teach between NYU Poly, and Cooper Union as well as CCNY and they talk about kids that would never stand for some of fail rates of some of our cla#ses. I think they make some of our cla#ses so hard its designed to force people to take them over, so they recoup the cost of charging lower tuition. I think part of it has to start with high school, where they set up environment to help kids decide major better because its surprising how many kids enter undecided and as time ticks they end up choosing an easier major because they don't want to spend too much more time in school. Like some people said though I think its also what you make it of it, if you pick right major and minor combination or minors, you can be very marketable
Nonsense; I went to a private school also.. regardless !! is a waste of money and the only reason to go to school is to play the game.. it's that simple...
 12-10-2012, 04:49 PMaway - #62
niceguy954
Originally Posted by MOTTAFOOKAH
Nonsense; I went to a private school also.. regardless !! is a waste of money and the only reason to go to school is to play the game.. it's that simple...
its a game? cool...so play the game right and stop complaining. Don't try to convince people not to go to a place that provides education [pic] !! it don't go to elem,middle or high school also [pic] our youth these days. To lazy to read a book and pa#s a couple test to succeed in life. Always a !!ing excuse
 12-10-2012, 04:58 PMaway - #63
Darkdrone
I seen too many dudes who engineers, accountants, programmers....etc who tell me within the first year of the job they hate the job. A majority of these people just pick the major and suffer 4 years of hell, only to get a job where they hate. Then fast forward a couple of years later and they either have depression because they are in a career they never wanted.

Always tell my buddies that you gotta do something practical and that can sustain you for many years to come. You don't pick something for the money you pick something because you are good at it and you enjoy it.
 12-10-2012, 04:59 PMaway - #64
whouthinkitis
Originally Posted by Zaosyn
I fear this so much. I'm 22 and thinking about jumping in college late for a trade skill or degree but collecting those big student loan checks early on scares the !! out of me. I really don't want to be 24 with a nursing degree (which I would likely aim for) and have 10k+ in student loans dwelling on me whether I finish or not. Granted, if I'm gonna make a decision I need to do it while I'm fairly young.

Did most of you have this same fear and just say "!! it, I'm gonna have a nice career job afterwards anyways that will pay it off, and if I don't that's a chance i'll take "? Because I'm starting to lean towards the idea of accepting the debt and making a career choice and going to college.
Man I'm 30 now when I was 22 I was still trying to figure !! out college wise and adult life as well. Like I said while I was in school I got all grants b/c I knew I didn't have the type of money to even try to pay back student loans. You can think collecting those student loan checks is sweet but remember once you graduate YOU HAVE TO PAY THAT !! BACK!!!
 12-10-2012, 05:16 PMaway - #65
MOTTAFOOKAH
Originally Posted by niceguy954
its a game? cool...so play the game right and stop complaining. Don't try to convince people not to go to a place that provides education [pic] !! it don't go to elem,middle or high school also [pic] our youth these days. To lazy to read a book and pa#s a couple test to succeed in life. Always a !!ing excuse
[pic] who complaining? I'm playing the game now.. I was a double major.. I'm not trying to do nothing.. you I guess just like a lot of other people think you NEED college to do something in this world.. and you don't.. education aint nothing but domestication... your'e in school right? You can see for yourself and if you can't your probably one of the brainless people getting domesticated...
 12-10-2012, 05:31 PMaway - #66
niceguy954
Originally Posted by MOTTAFOOKAH
[pic] who complaining? I'm playing the game now.. I was a double major.. I'm not trying to do nothing.. you I guess just like a lot of other people think you NEED college to do something in this world.. and you don't.. education aint nothing but domestication... your'e in school right? You can see for yourself and if you can't your probably one of the brainless people getting domesticated...
first off I graduated two years ago..been making that money since [pic]

You don't need college but its most popular way to succeed. Everything else is either right place right time, born into rich, or you started with one company when you were 18 and never left [pic]

you know sometimes college doesn't domesticate you..it actually opens your eyes to see the world from a different view.[pic]

maybe your the brain washed one thinking everything is meant to control, lie, and brainwash you..if thats the case whats the point of living? [pic]

I see why the GOP is !!ing about taxes..once you make it uncle sam coming for you.. YTD in taxes is about 24k [pic] I'm worrying how to get taxed less and your worrying about being brain washed [pic]

Last edited by niceguy954; 12-10-2012 at 05:34 PM..
 12-10-2012, 05:52 PMaway - #67
MOTTAFOOKAH
Originally Posted by niceguy954
first off I graduated two years ago..been making that money since [pic]

You don't need college but its most popular way to succeed. Everything else is either right place right time, born into rich, or you started with one company when you were 18 and never left [pic]

you know sometimes college doesn't domesticate you..it actually opens your eyes to see the world from a different view.[pic]

maybe your the brain washed one thinking everything is meant to control, lie, and brainwash you..if thats the case whats the point of living? [pic]

I see why the GOP is !!ing about taxes..once you make it uncle sam coming for you.. YTD in taxes is about 24k [pic] I'm worrying how to get taxed less and your worrying about being brain washed [pic]
I had a job the week after graduation.. you play the game(school) and get what the game prepares you for(job) that's all it's for..Go to the law dictionary and research the definition of JOB.. oh wait you learned that in college right? You proved my point.. COLLEGE AINT TEACH YOU !!.... Because if it did that tax problem you having you should know or at least have information on this cuz it's been out there..
 12-10-2012, 06:00 PMaway - #68
niceguy954
Originally Posted by MOTTAFOOKAH
I had a job the week after graduation.. you play the game(school) and get what the game prepares you for(job) that's all it's for.. You proved my point.. COLLEGE AINT TEACH YOU !!.... Because if it did you should know or at least have information on this cuz it's been out there..
Just because I don't know all the tax invasion techniques doesn't mean I didn't learn anything in college..[pic] Everyone is taught the basics..IRA,401k,529,HSA but the extra !! you have to read our ask your accountant about is what I mean

that statement you highlighted was meant to show your thought process. Im worrying about saving money from uncle sam and your worrying about not getting brain washed [pic] please note depending on your salary 24k is unavoidable

college opens the world to you and shows you stuff you never knew. Then you take the initiative to research and learn new things. Colleges are mandated to teach you beg-inter levels about the major your want that's it. It forces you to explore and meet new people who talk about things you never heard about. You think an avg kid in the hood knows what a 401k is? what if he went to college and heard about that word..hmm then he would look into..thats a great point about college
 12-10-2012, 06:05 PMaway - #69
niceguy954
nicca aint you heard the saying...

[pic] Herm Edwards "You play to win the game!" - YouTube
 12-10-2012, 06:11 PMaway - #70
MOTTAFOOKAH
Originally Posted by niceguy954
Just because I don't know all the tax invasion techniques doesn't mean I didn't learn anything in college..[pic] Everyone is taught the basics..IRA,401k,529,HSA but the extra !! you have to read our ask your accountant about is what I mean

that statement you highlighted was meant to show your thought process. Im worrying about saving money from uncle sam and your worrying about not getting brain washed [pic] please note depending on your salary 24k is unavoidable

college opens the world to you and shows you stuff you never knew. Then you take the initiative to research and learn new things. Colleges are mandated to teach you beg-inter levels about the major your want that's it. It forces you to explore and meet new people who talk about things you never heard about. You think an avg kid in the hood knows what a 401k is? what if he went to college and heard about that word..hmm then he would look into..thats a great point about college
[pic] yes I do..Im from the hood and know plenty of people who know what a 401k is and more. but that is another issue.. All the points that you highlighted you don't NEED college to do.. College is for a job.. simple as that..
 12-10-2012, 06:16 PMaway - #71
Darkdrone
College really for the most part doesn't teach you !!, I learned more theorems, ideas and knowledge by doing the research on my own and through youtube.

College is like this: you go to lecture, write down what professors say, work on problems, study, do test, rince and repeat, then do final, do well and then for most part everything you learned is flushed down the toilet.

Then when you get your career for the most part its on the job training a large portion of what you learned in college won't be applied to your everyday day to day duties.
 12-10-2012, 06:31 PMaway - #72
niceguy954
Originally Posted by MOTTAFOOKAH
[pic] yes I do..Im from the hood and know plenty of people who know what a 401k is and more. but that is another issue.. All the points that you highlighted you don't NEED college to do.. College is for a job.. simple as that..
I volunteer at a local clinic in the hood..yes most don't know what a 401k is..a lot of them can't even read to start off which is a bigger problem. Your not getting it..your trying to debunk my statements with your life story and I'm trying to explain the story of the average person going to college. I'm done with you sir

Originally Posted by Darkdrone
College really for the most part doesn't teach you !!, I learned more theorems, ideas and knowledge by doing the research on my own and through youtube.

College is like this: you go to lecture, write down what professors say, work on problems, study, do test, rince and repeat, then do final, do well and then for most part everything you learned is flushed down the toilet.

Then when you get your career for the most part its on the job training a large portion of what you learned in college won't be applied to your everyday day to day duties.
this guy said his facts and references when he explains a topic to someone is going to be from a youtube video [pic]

[pic] Billy Madison - Ultimate Insult (Academic Decathlon) - YouTube


Yes tell that to your job interviewer
 12-10-2012, 06:39 PMaway - #73
MOTTAFOOKAH
Originally Posted by niceguy954
I volunteer at a local clinic in the hood..yes most don't know what a 401k is..a lot of them can't even read to start off which is a bigger problem. Your not getting it..your trying to debunk my statements with your life story and I'm trying to explain the story of the average person going to college. I'm done with you sir
Iv'e already proved my point to you... you just continue to respond with generalized nonsense..
 12-10-2012, 07:25 PMaway - #74
Darkdrone
Originally Posted by niceguy954
this guy said his facts and references when he explains a topic to someone is going to be from a youtube video [pic]




Yes tell that to your job interviewer
I am in college now and doing well but for the most the things I am learning in cla#s can be learned so much better outside the cla#sroom. Last summer when I was working for bank as an intern, you wouldn't believe the number people who had high positions and getting paid good money told me only a small portion of what they used in college they applied the rest was from on the job training and online research.

My future job interviewer will be spooned fed a generic interview phrases and then I can munipulate him to think I am qualified for the job (could have been before I started college) and then off to a career where there is little creativity and marginal change in the work life.
 12-10-2012, 07:49 PMaway - #75
thechanickal1
It's one of those things unless you have the knowledge you wouldn't understand...what it did for me is to force me to think about stuff I had no interest in. It's was worth it for me but its all what u get out of it like everything else. It's may not pay off monetarily wise for everyone but if u use the knowledge odds are it will
 12-10-2012, 08:19 PMaway - #76
niceguy954
Originally Posted by Darkdrone
I am in college now and doing well but for the most the things I am learning in cla#s can be learned so much better outside the cla#sroom. Last summer when I was working for bank as an intern, you wouldn't believe the number people who had high positions and getting paid good money told me only a small portion of what they used in college they applied the rest was from on the job training and online research.

My future job interviewer will be spooned fed a generic interview phrases and then I can munipulate him to think I am qualified for the job (could have been before I started college) and then off to a career where there is little creativity and marginal change in the work life.
[pic] so much wtf's in your statement. I don't even know where to start so I just won't start. Lets see how far you go in life with that mentality.

Originally Posted by thechanickal1
It's one of those things unless you have the knowledge you wouldn't understand...what it did for me is to force me to think about stuff I had no interest in. It's was worth it for me but its all what u get out of it like everything else. It's may not pay off monetarily wise for everyone but if u use the knowledge odds are it will
[pic][pic]
 12-10-2012, 08:25 PMaway - #77
Darkdrone
Originally Posted by niceguy954
[pic] so much wtf's in your statement. I don't even know where to start so I just won't start. Lets see how far you go in life with that mentality.



[pic][pic]
Good credit
Little to no debt
Travelled around Europe
Will be making 100k within a couple of years

Life right now seems pretty good to me.

Last edited by Darkdrone; 12-10-2012 at 08:33 PM..
 12-10-2012, 08:42 PMaway - #78
niceguy954
Originally Posted by Darkdrone
Good credit
Little to no debt
Travelled around Europe
Will be making 100k within a couple of years

Life right now seems pretty good to me.
a lot of people have good credit and no debt..Most people start to learn about credit and debt when they apply for a student credit card during guess what..college...

A couple of my cla#smates traveled to Europe (even Ghana) for the first time paid for by....their evil colleges for 1-2 semesters. Colleges are monsters [pic]

When will you be making that 100k/year ..after going through that evil corporation aka college right? [pic]


but again its like having the debate with the other guy..your still in college and I have been out for 2 years enjoying the rewards of going.. You guys are !!ing and moaning now but in a couple of years you will be thinking like me [pic] Good day to you sir
I can see how college is such a bad place [pic]
 12-10-2012, 09:33 PMaway - #79
QVD
I THOUGHT Darkdrone was on some next !! but then I KNEW once he started bragging about !!
 12-10-2012, 10:22 PMonline - #80
Hydroman
A degree is NOT a one way ticket to success, but it is a credential that's needed in order to get certain opportunities in the corporate job space. Work experience is becoming just as important as your degree, and any additional certifications such as MBA's or other graduate degrees give you a leg up on the competition. If you're going into the corporate environment and you're not armed with some level of collegiate certification, good luck.
 
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