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Nokia Lumia 900 teardown reveals mediocre hardware


 Nokia Lumia 900 teardown reveals mediocre hardware
By Tiko377 - 04-04-2012, 09:38 PM - Boxden > BX Tech


Nokia and Microsoft are betting big on the Lumia 900, hoping the device will help make a name for Windows Phone in the United States. The handset will be exclusively offered by AT&T for a mere $99.99 with a new two-year agreement on April 8th. TechRepublic on Tuesday cracked open the device and examined its internal components. The conclusion: mediocre hardware is the reasons for its low price. With almost every other competing smartphone offering dual-core or quad-core processors, Nokia instead chose a single-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S2 chipset clocked at 1.4 GHz. The Lumia has a smaller battery, lower resolution display and less RAM than most of its competitors as well. The handset is also thicker and heavier than most, although it has a good build quality according to the site. Despite these shortcomings, Nokia’s Lumia 900 is a terrific smartphone that gives Windows Phone its best shot yet to succeed.

Nokia Lumia 900 teardown reveals mediocre hardware


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 04-04-2012, 10:08 PMaway - #2
P-Hill|M
Luckily for Nokia, I don't believe WP7 needs much processing power to be smooth
 04-04-2012, 10:29 PMaway - #3
paliknight
Originally Posted by P-Hill
Luckily for Nokia, I don't believe WP7 needs much processing power to be smooth
thats true. i have a lumia 710 and it is the smoothest and fastest phone i have owned; and ive owned android and iphones including the amaze and iphone 4.

lack of support, functionality, and features k!lls it.
 04-04-2012, 10:37 PMonline - #4
UrbanGAAWD
WP7 doesn't have support for dual core or higher memory but that's because there wasn't big speed or performance improvement over single core, so to save battery life even more, MS opted to keep it single core....however Apollo(the next Windows Phone OS update) will support multi core, higher memory, and various other things.....as far as battery and display, I think they will all be great and look just fine

Last edited by UrbanGAAWD; 04-04-2012 at 10:42 PM..
 04-05-2012, 04:44 PMaway - #5
Orono
Apollo will be using a new kernel, which will rely on dual core processors (at least thats what the rumors say) so chances are it will slow down on a single core

That said, before I broke my lumia 800 it was very smooth with very little hitches in the software
 04-05-2012, 08:12 PMaway - #6
Alec
Wow, I came in here expecting nothing but fanboys with no knowledge about this phone, agreeing that it sucks and !! without even seeing it.

I write articles for a Windows Phone website and I'm glad to see you guys know your !! about it despite dumb websites like BGR being full of it.
 04-05-2012, 08:38 PMonline - #7
UrbanGAAWD
Originally Posted by Alec
Wow, I came in here expecting nothing but fanboys with no knowledge about this phone, agreeing that it sucks and !! without even seeing it.

I write articles for a Windows Phone website and I'm glad to see you guys know your !! about it despite dumb websites like BGR being full of it.
truth be honest, I was never a fan until the Smoked by Windows Phone challenge, I guess the different UI turned me off intially but I'm for it now and ready for Apollo and see the future development for it.....iOS has hit it peak IMO and is just a walled garden...android is great for customization but Windows Phone to me just has the "IT" factor....

what's the site you write for? I'll def bookmark it, I'm trying to gather as much Windows Phone knowledge like a sponge
 04-05-2012, 11:07 PMaway - #8
x Tha Arkitek x
I also have a Nokia Lumia 710 and love it. That article is retarded --- Windows Phone 7 as mentioned doesn't support dual core and doesn't need it. Android has all this power and is still sluggish at times and can't make it through a day of use without a re-charge. Everyone I know with an Android device carries a charger everywhere they go ---the first thing they do is whip out the charger when they come visit [pic]. My friend recently picked the HTC Radar 4G and was amazed at its battery life. Hardware specs don't mean anything if the software controlling it can't run it efficiently.

Windows Phone 8 is going to be the [rip] of Android [pic] Maybe then app developers will put more focus on WP.

Last edited by x Tha Arkitek x; 04-05-2012 at 11:13 PM..
 04-06-2012, 01:07 AMaway - #9
Sivraj
Originally Posted by x Tha Arkitek x
I also have a Nokia Lumia 710 and love it. That article is retarded --- Windows Phone 7 as mentioned doesn't support dual core and doesn't need it. Android has all this power and is still sluggish at times and can't make it through a day of use without a re-charge. Everyone I know with an Android device carries a charger everywhere they go ---the first thing they do is whip out the charger when they come visit [pic]. My friend recently picked the HTC Radar 4G and was amazed at its battery life. Hardware specs don't mean anything if the software controlling it can't run it efficiently.

Windows Phone 8 is going to be the [rip] of Android [pic] Maybe then app developers will put more focus on WP.
[pic][pic]
 04-06-2012, 01:47 AMonline - #10
fat_boyy21
Originally Posted by x Tha Arkitek x
I also have a Nokia Lumia 710 and love it. That article is retarded --- Windows Phone 7 as mentioned doesn't support dual core and doesn't need it. Android has all this power and is still sluggish at times and can't make it through a day of use without a re-charge. Everyone I know with an Android device carries a charger everywhere they go ---the first thing they do is whip out the charger when they come visit [pic]. My friend recently picked the HTC Radar 4G and was amazed at its battery life. Hardware specs don't mean anything if the software controlling it can't run it efficiently.

Windows Phone 8 is going to be the [rip] of Android [pic] Maybe then app developers will put more focus on WP.
[pic] you dont know anyone with a high end android phone then. the razor maxxx has the longest lasting battery of any lte phone. I get 24 hours out my galaxy nexus with moderate use and 8 hours with heavy use. and that's with full screen brightness and the gps on. ICS runs really smooth and efficiently and it's obvious youve never used it before otherwise your comment would've been different.

Nokia did put cheap hardware in it to meet the $100 price point. they could've came with a higher resolution screen, more ram, etc but they're not ready to compete against the iphones and galaxy nexus yet. they have to build a following first. I've said it before, if this phone came out a year ago I would've been impressed. the phone is really fast but the galaxy nexus is faster.
 04-07-2012, 10:40 AMaway - #11
x Tha Arkitek x
Originally Posted by fat_boyy21
[pic] you dont know anyone with a high end android phone then. the razor maxxx has the longest lasting battery of any lte phone. I get 24 hours out my galaxy nexus with moderate use and 8 hours with heavy use. and that's with full screen brightness and the gps on. ICS runs really smooth and efficiently and it's obvious youve never used it before otherwise your comment would've been different.

Nokia did put cheap hardware in it to meet the $100 price point. they could've came with a higher resolution screen, more ram, etc but they're not ready to compete against the iphones and galaxy nexus yet. they have to build a following first. I've said it before, if this phone came out a year ago I would've been impressed. the phone is really fast but the galaxy nexus is faster.
The Razor Maxxx just came out and it was because the original version sucked at battery life [pic]. And WP7 has a max resolution of 800 x 480. Nothing to do with Nokia's decisions -- this is the reason for any limitations you might call "weak". And you mentioned more RAM, WP7 simply doesn't need it --- that's my point. Android needs the high hardware specs to run decently, the Lumia 710 is considered to be a "mid-range" device and it performs really well. WP7 devices don't need to be rooted & tweaked to run well or last all day on a single charge. The only thing lacking is app support from certain developers

WP8 will be a game changer...

Hardware Changes; support for multicore processors, NFC communication, four screen resolutions (no actual sizes were mentioned) with support for removable microSD cards.

Windows 8 integration; with not only a shared UI, but developers will be able to “reuse — by far — most of their code” when creating an app for use on Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8. Belfiore also specifically mentions the kernel, networking stacks, security, and multimedia support as areas of heavy overlap. There are also plans to scrap Zune in favour of a richer version of Active Sync, a similar program as used by Windows Mobile 6.5.

Application ecosystem; with an expected 100,000 applications in the marketplace, with the biggest change coming by way of native code inclusion enabling more powerful, feature rich applications as well as the ease of porting code from programs initially developed for iOS or Android. The camera will can be skinned by OEM’s and developers, one example given by Belfiore was a lens app with burst control and smile detection meaning you can capture that perfect shot.

Data Management; one Windows Phone 8 feature talked about is full data management (a feature missing in the current Windows Phone 8) allowing the end user to monitor data usage, providing a breakdown of consumption on a live tile. Windows Phone 8 will attempt to use WiFi and carrier owned hot-spots before using the 3G/4G which will cut down on data usage that could be chargable by some carriers if an all inclusive package was not chosen or subscribed to. Local scout powered by Bing maps will show hot-spot locations so you will never be far from free WiFi internet, furthermore, there are plans to offer the use of proxy servers and server side compression which it touted to reduce usage by upto 30%.

Business Support; Windows Phone 8 will support a bitlocker type 128-bit full disc encryption as seen on Windows 7, allowing businesses to deploy their own tailored software behind company firewalls.
Apollo is the codename for the next generation of Windows Phone, as officially confirmed by MS at an MSDN seminar in August 2011. This update is also confirmed by Nokia and HTC. The expected release date for this update is in Q4 2012.

List of features coming in Apollo, not yet confirmed by Microsoft,[33][34][35] unless otherwise stated:

Support for multi-cores (confirmed by Nokia)
Support for different resolutions
NFC support added, including payment and content sharing with WP8 and Windows 8 machines (confirmed by MS (but NFC is partially supported in Tango update, e.g. ZTE Orbit))
Carrier control and branding of "wallet" element is possible via SIM or phone hardware
Transitions to core components from desktop, including kernel, network stack, security components, and media support
Simplified porting of desktop apps to mobile
Zune desktop integration scrapped in favor of new, unnamed syncing app
Deeper Skydrive integration, including ability to sync data such as music collections (confirmed by MS as part of Live wave 5 update)
Xbox Companion app will get Windows 8 partner client
Native code support, simplified porting from Android and iOS
App-to-app communication and integration
Skype client with deep OS hooks that will make it almost identical to placing standard voice calls (confirmed by MS)
Camera app now supports "lenses", which allow third parties to skin and add features to camera interface (confirmed by MS)
DataSmart tracks and reports usage via app and live tile
Gives preferential treatment to WiFi, can automatically connect to carrier-owned hotspots
Proxy server will compress websites in Internet Explorer 10 up to 30 percent (IE10 is confirmed by MS)
Native Bitlocker encryption
Support for proprietary, custom built apps to be deployed behind company firewalls

Last edited by x Tha Arkitek x; 04-07-2012 at 10:48 AM..
 04-08-2012, 10:25 AMonline - #12
VictoryThagr8
Originally Posted by x Tha Arkitek x
The Razor Maxxx just came out and it was because the original version sucked at battery life [pic]. And WP7 has a max resolution of 800 x 480. Nothing to do with Nokia's decisions -- this is the reason for any limitations you might call "weak". And you mentioned more RAM, WP7 simply doesn't need it --- that's my point. Android needs the high hardware specs to run decently, the Lumia 710 is considered to be a "mid-range" device and it performs really well. WP7 devices don't need to be rooted & tweaked to run well or last all day on a single charge. The only thing lacking is app support from certain developers

WP8 will be a game changer...
What u don't get is that window phone 7 UI use majority of the resources which leave 3rd party apps wither very little resources to run. This is why android and ios apps run way faster than windows 7 apps. These are smart phones that are quickly replacing laptops. You keep talking about windows don't need dual core processor to be smooth but the apps are slow ad hell nowhere near as powerful as android or apple apps. And let's not even bring up games.

Also the of razr still has better battery life than any windows phone and that is with a dual core processor, and the maxx just has the best battery life out of any android, iPhone or windows phone.

Last edited by VictoryThagr8; 04-08-2012 at 10:28 AM..
 04-08-2012, 11:42 AMonline - #13
UrbanGAAWD
Originally Posted by VictoryThagr8
What u don't get is that window phone 7 UI use majority of the resources which leave 3rd party apps wither very little resources to run. This is why android and ios apps run way faster than windows 7 apps. These are smart phones that are quickly replacing laptops. You keep talking about windows don't need dual core processor to be smooth but the apps are slow ad hell nowhere near as powerful as android or apple apps. And let's not even bring up games.

Also the of razr still has better battery life than any windows phone and that is with a dual core processor, and the maxx just has the best battery life out of any android, iPhone or windows phone.
Yes the apps and games on WP7 phones are smooth and run great.....WP7 doesn't need heavy resources to operate smoothly, single core WP7 phones run just as good(some even better) than iOS and Android phones....most WP7 have great battery life where the Droid Razr had horrible battery and they had to release a phone with a 3,300 mpah battery size to last all day....what you don't release is that Windows Phones are only a year and half old, while Android is 7 years and iOS is 5 years old...so give it time....HTC Titan keeps up with a Galaxy Nexus to me and smokes most Android phones...get me [pic]
 04-08-2012, 01:25 PMonline - #14
VictoryThagr8
Originally Posted by urbangatsby
Yes the apps and games on WP7 phones are smooth and run great.....WP7 doesn't need heavy resources to operate smoothly, single core WP7 phones run just as good(some even better) than iOS and Android phones....most WP7 have great battery life where the Droid Razr had horrible battery and they had to release a phone with a 3,300 mpah battery size to last all day....what you don't release is that Windows Phones are only a year and half old, while Android is 7 years and iOS is 5 years old...so give it time....HTC Titan keeps up with a Galaxy Nexus to me and smokes most Android phones...get me [pic]
Bull!! this the 7th reiteration of windows mobile . Let's not act like Microsoft didn't have a mobile os that lost so much market share from android and ios and forced them drop a new os. !! android came out at 09 while windows mobile been out since forever. Actually majority of the reason windows phone has !!ty sales because Microsoft left a bad taste with windows mobile.

Droid razor has better battery life than the HTC titan.
 04-08-2012, 01:26 PMaway - #15
YoungRay20
windows phone....
 04-08-2012, 01:41 PMaway - #16
Sivraj
Originally Posted by VictoryThagr8
What u don't get is that window phone 7 UI use majority of the resources which leave 3rd party apps wither very little resources to run. This is why android and ios apps run way faster than windows 7 apps. These are smart phones that are quickly replacing laptops. You keep talking about windows don't need dual core processor to be smooth but the apps are slow ad hell nowhere near as powerful as android or apple apps. And let's not even bring up games.

Also the of razr still has better battery life than any windows phone and that is with a dual core processor, and the maxx just has the best battery life out of any android, iPhone or windows phone.
The Razr Maxxx definitely has or probably is the best android battery life phone ever. But in case you didn't know, the Nokia Lumia 610 last just a few days longer more than the razr maxxx according to gsmarena.com. with 720 hrs of standby time compared to the maxx 607. But I'm not sure cause other websites says different so to be honest I don't know what to believe in.
 04-08-2012, 01:53 PMonline - #17
fat_boyy21
Originally Posted by x Tha Arkitek x
The Razor Maxxx just came out and it was because the original version sucked at battery life [pic]. And WP7 has a max resolution of 800 x 480. Nothing to do with Nokia's decisions -- this is the reason for any limitations you might call "weak". And you mentioned more RAM, WP7 simply doesn't need it --- that's my point. Android needs the high hardware specs to run decently, the Lumia 710 is considered to be a "mid-range" device and it performs really well. WP7 devices don't need to be rooted & tweaked to run well or last all day on a single charge. The only thing lacking is app support from certain developers

WP8 will be a game changer...
you're missing the point. i know there is a currently a max resolution and i know it only currently takes advantage of single core processors. my point is that they could've put on a better display and put in a better processor to future proof the device. when the new update drops people are gonna have to sell their phones, because they wont be able to run apps that require a dual core processor or take advantage of increased screen res. And what do you mean android phones need more ram to run decently.. you really are confused. ram helps multitask.. wp7 owners dont know what that is cuz they only have 10 apps available to them (sarcasm). smh at microsoft having to pay developers to make apps on their os [pic]. my galaxy nexus has a good cpu and currently the best display overall, but everything else about it is average hardware wise. And yet it runs faster than any other phone for most tasks.. especially browsing. (i still gotta check out the new evo). what's funny is that I'm running stock android and it works perfectly, and yet there's people like you who havent used the latest os acting as if you're an expert on it.
 04-08-2012, 03:28 PMonline - #18
Ra-da-god
Originally Posted by x Tha Arkitek x

WP8 will be a game changer...
not to be funny but wasn't all the windows heads saying this about WP7? I remember when I was going to buy the HD2 thats all everyone one was talking about it like "don't get that it runs off WM6.5 , wait till the Windows phone 7 drop"

Just saying.....in truth I've never used a Windows phone long enough to have a solid opinion about vs Android though [pic][pic]

Last edited by Ra-da-god; 04-08-2012 at 03:31 PM..
 04-08-2012, 03:32 PMaway - #19
Sivraj
Originally Posted by Ra-da-god
not to be funny but wasn't all the windows heads saying this about WP7? I remember when I was going to buy the HD2 thats all everyone one was talking about it like "don't get that it runs off WM6.5 , wait till the Windows phone 7 drop"

Just saying.....in truth I've never used a Windows phone long enough to have a solid opinion about vs Android though [pic][pic]
WP7 is cool IMO. My only complaint is that it doesn't support flash in web browsing. But overall the touchscreen is extremely responsive and smooth as !!!
 04-08-2012, 03:54 PMonline - #20
UrbanGAAWD
Originally Posted by VictoryThagr8
Bull!! this the 7th reiteration of windows mobile . Let's not act like Microsoft didn't have a mobile os that lost so much market share from android and ios and forced them drop a new os. !! android came out at 09 whwindows mobile been out since forever. Actually majority of the reason windows phone has !!ty sales because Microsoft left a bad taste with windows mobile.

Droid razor has better battery life than the HTC titan.
[pic]
Android has been out since 2005 as a open source project and Google released the G1 as the first Google/Android phone and WP7 and Windows Mobile are 2 different OS from 2 different eras. Windows Mobile is more of an business-orientated OS and WP7 is more practical for daily users. Different chipset, different architecture in the coding. WP7 has many great advantages going for it, did you expect everything to come out for Windows Phones at once, they have to figure out how to make an OS in this iOS/Android dominated world. Droid Razr has one of the worst battery life out of 2011 phones and HTC Titan can last a day and half
 
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