The Iceman Official Trailer #1 (2012) - Michael Shannon

08-30-2012, 07:32 PM

i just watch the documentary on bio last week

08-30-2012, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by HtownMike98

Whats good, Its Miguel

This movie looks dope. About the Iceman, I think this is the guy they did an ABC special on or something. Check it out.

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The crazy fed from Boardwalk Empire is playing the Iceman!??!!?!?!? [pic]

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And Ray Liotta is BACK DOING GANGSTER FLICKS!!! [pic]

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Oh yeah, the most famous (or infamous) specials on the real guy were the HBO America Undercover ones.

[pic] The Iceman Confessions Of A Mafia Hitman 1of2 Richard Kuklinski - YouTube

There were 3 HBO Specials. Numerous others but those were the best. There was also an episode of "Evil, I" on the ID channel.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe

Why do they try an win us over with his family life? John Gotti chopped a man in half alive with a chainsaw for hitting his son with a car, so should I feel empathy for poor John because his kid got hit by a car?

Sociopaths are Amoral. Why dress it up when it does not matter?

That's part of the story tho and making the person three-dimensional makes the character more interesting.

08-30-2012, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Fauby

Been waiting on this for a min now... Wasn't Micky.Rouke suppose to play iceman tho??? thought I seen that somewhere before

i thought it was gonna be Ray Winstone but ill take this dude

08-30-2012, 09:26 PM

They just did a new piece on him on tha Bio channel i think it was...Movie looks dope but Michael Shannon don't resemble him at all

"The Iceman : Confessions of a Mafia Contract k!ller" is tha one Mickey Rourke will be in...It's an adaptation of a book written by Philip Carlo

Icemans son Dwayne hangs out in a bar around here...When i first heard he was Icemans son i was like [pic]

08-30-2012, 09:31 PM

I'm feel it it looks dope
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08-30-2012, 09:36 PM

What the f.uck happened to making a trailer that doesn't show everything in a movie.

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08-30-2012, 09:51 PM

Came in here thinking I was gon see this nicca...

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Movie looks straight tho...ima see that bih.

08-30-2012, 10:44 PM

[pic] YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES i been waiting for this movie forever...i remember watchin that test scene on youtube like a year and a half ago and i kept checkin up on the movie ever since....

ray liotta is in it [pic] and i thought james franco dropped out of the movie...

michael shannon [pic]

08-31-2012, 02:06 AM

[pic] The Iceman Tapes - Inside The Mind Of A Mafia Hitman - YouTube

"It was a man and he was begging, and pleading, and praying, I guess. And he was, 'Please, God, no,' all over the place. So I told him he could have a half an hour to pray to God and if God could come down and change the circumstances, He'd have that time. But God never showed up and he never changed the circumstances and that was that. It wasn't too nice. That's one thing, I shouldn't have done that one. I shouldn't have done it that way."

08-31-2012, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by ManWithoutFear!

After that Take Shelter !! Michael Shannon one of my favorite actors. You get your moneys worth with dude. Great actor

Yeah, he was great in take shelter...underrated flick IMO

Those Iceman hbo specials were crazy. His story about the rats was insane.

08-31-2012, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by TheDirector217

I'm 50/50 on this. Iceman was a fat boy, for one. And two, while cuz definitely let ratchet go, he preferred to k!ll people with cyanide (poisoned burgers, gumbo, etc) because it "wasn't messy". He learned it from some kid that taught him how to be a hitman. I'm checking for it, but the fact that strayed from the story threw me off . . .

Dont forget the rats........the book was dope as hell.

08-31-2012, 05:53 AM

wasit so they turned him into some kinde of hero figure?

08-31-2012, 05:58 AM

Haven't seen the Iceland special in a minute but story seems to revolve around him going between two dudes who set ul his hit....I do remember something like him k!lling somebody he liked or something though...they just add that in or is it slipping my memory

Also agree that they make it seem like they want you to root for him because he's a family man.....should Def show his double life but we should be looking at dude for what he is....would be a way better movie

08-31-2012, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Thworldisyours

That's part of the story tho and making the person three-dimensional makes the character more interesting.

The World Health Organization's International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems, tenth edition (ICD-10), defines a conceptually similar disorder to antisocial personality disorder called (F60.2) Dissocial personality disorder.[4]

It is characterized by at least 3 of the following:

Callous unconcern for the feelings of others.

Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations.

Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in est@blishing them.

Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence.

Incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment.

Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior that has brought the person into conflict with society.

my point is people with empathy need to see a this side because they cannot[..]ociate in their mind such reprehensible behavior. I don't need to see his family life because it did not matter to him what happened after he died/got locked up and I know how sociopaths can manipulate people with empathy for there own means.......and I am not a tool.

08-31-2012, 09:37 AM

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08-31-2012, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Junglist

came in here thinking it was a Marvel movie

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i am f*ckin' [pic]

08-31-2012, 12:18 PM

had to stop watching the trailer. it was showing everything. looks D.A.F.!

08-31-2012, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by ManWithoutFear!

After that Take Shelter !! Michael Shannon one of my favorite actors. You get your moneys worth with dude. Great actor

Take Shelter was garbage.

Michael Shannon is a good actor, though.

08-31-2012, 03:21 PM

My first time making front page

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08-31-2012, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by JohnDoe

my point is people with empathy need to see a this side because they cannot[..]ociate in their mind such reprehensible behavior. I don't need to see his family life because it did not matter to him what happened after he died/got locked up and I know how sociopaths can manipulate people with empathy for there own means.......and I am not a tool.

I'm looking at this merely as a writer, not a psychologist.

Why wouldn't you show him as a family man? What's more interesting?

The man who is a raving lunatic or the man who can appear to be a loving, caring individual one second and turn into a homicidal, vicious psychopath the next.

I think the latter is more interesting/entertaining. Whether or not you feel empathy for such an individual is your choice.

I really dont see why any writer WOULDN'T show him being a family man. Like I said before, it's part of his story. (They always mentioned his family life during the documentaries.) Why eliminate that part and for what?

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