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Django Unchained Review: Pros and Cons


 Django Unchained Review: Pros and Cons
 12-26-2012, 11:49 AMaway - #81
skillahmang
Originally Posted by STAY ASLEEP
Quentins southern accent is god awful [pic]
he was Australian.


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 12-26-2012, 11:49 AMaway - #82
brazidee
where can I get a link to the 2pac song? [pic]
 12-26-2012, 11:53 AMaway - #83
skillahmang
Originally Posted by Mr Kush
Actually, one of the most important points of Hitler's anti-semetic brainwashing amongst the German people was turning the word "Jew" into a derogatory term. Much like "Gay" and "Homo" have been turned into homophobic terms in the US.

Stop reaching bro. Reach for a history book instead mane.
[pic] ether
 12-26-2012, 11:53 AMaway - #84
critiQue|M
Originally Posted by Mr Kush
Because socio-economically blacks (and other minorities) are at a disadvantage in America and oftentimes do not have the same access as aspiring white directors to secondary education, career networking, and other opportunities.

Yet in spite of all of that, Tarantino is a superior director to any black director. Maybe in 10-15 years when there are more qualified black directors one of them will take a shot at covering slavery in a feature-length film.
As much as you worship this man none of his family was slaves and hes never been called a n'gger so how is he better suited to tell a black mans story then a black man?
 12-26-2012, 11:54 AMaway - #85
Stupid Fresh
wheres the lnk
 12-26-2012, 11:57 AMaway - #86
Peterparker
Originally Posted by Patrick Galooly
No I'm saying he didn't take it nearly as far with inglorious basterds because he knows not to !! with jews. That's why the worst thing to happen to jews in inglorious basterds is being called a jewish dog. Whereas in django blacks are ripped apart and b0mbarded with racial slurs. Tarentino knows 100+ jewish racial slurs= last movie I'll ever make. Whereas 100+ black racial slurs = I'll need a bag to carry all the awards they're going to give me.
I can agree

I'll say this tho, this movie is easily one of the best films of 2012 and I liked it because it didn't make a mockery of slavery which is what I took from the ads and previews. But it was a more accurate depiction of slavery on film. It's sad because had a black director made a film like this it wouldn't say the light of day. But you know QT got the complexion for protection so we know how this works in Hollywood. The obvious aside

It was a great !!ing movie. I Felt like everybody did outstanding jobs acting wise. Comical moments on the fact that white people were that idiotic and ignorant to treat other humans in such a manner.

Some scenes didn't even apply a comedic element to it and some motha!!as were still laughing hard as !! and that is what I didn't like.

I didn't mind the N-Word or the violence. Hell I was hoping for more N-Words and Violence cuz you need to show how vile them crackas were(and alot still are)back in that era. I feel like often Hollywood romanticize slavery or the genocide their ancestors did on ppl of color. This movie did no such thing. Not one likeable white person but the German bounty Hunter. That was it. Everybody else you hated. They made no excuses or apologies to justify these whites enslaving and degrading other humans like so many real historians try to do certain white historical figures.

The only thing I really didn't like was the fact it was no underlying message. It was pretty much sensationalized. It wasn't in bad taste but no underlying message to slavery. That's just me tho, cuz I feel like some ppl were educated on how harsh slavery could be.

But some scenes I just don't understand why motha!!as(whites and non blacks) were laughing so hard. Like yeah this is a movie but it's based on actual !! do you understand that? And I think some people didn't understand which I can't blame entirely on QT.

Like you shouldn't leave the movie theaters like "wow it was crazy,funny,action packed RIDE!!" Slavery wasn't about that !!, and QT wasn't aiming for that but I think so many of us have been desensitized to the point where we can't decipher between seriousness and comedy.
 12-26-2012, 12:04 PMaway - #87
Mr Kush
Originally Posted by critiQue
As much as you worship this man none of his family was slaves and hes never been called a n'gger so how is he better suited to tell a black mans story then a black man?
Point me to a director once owned by a white man and I'll agree with you. Should a psycho have directed American Psycho? Should a marine direct that new Osama movie coming out? Why didn't a man from Bethleham direct Pa#sion of The Christ? Why didn't a former NFL player direct Any Given Sunday? Why didn't a white supremacist direct American History X?

I don't understand what you're getting at. In order to direct something you need to experience it? Hollywood would be a lot less creative if you were in charge..
 12-26-2012, 12:12 PMonline - #88
rashcobar
Originally Posted by ManWithoutFear!
Umm...

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Go on..umm what?
 12-26-2012, 12:13 PMaway - #89
Spid3yo
People taking this movie way too seriously. While there is racially charged humor, there also is gripping and dramatic portrayals of slavery. It's all done in a smart way, as in there is a clear distinction on the part you are suppose to laugh at, and the parts you arn't If you are looking for a real life account of slavery this isn't the movie for you.

The editing was questionable, the violence gratuitous. This movie delivers a great experience that tests a wide range of human emotion.
 12-26-2012, 12:16 PMaway - #90
Soda Pop
Originally Posted by Mr Kush
Oh, I understand now. I struck a chord with the education comment. If you re-read my posts though I didn't put much emphasis at all on education, more-so white privilege in general. I know that QT dropped out of HS.

A poster asked me why can't a black director direct a slave movie with as much popularity, appeal, and viewer interest as QT can.

Do you think there is a black director out there with the name recognition of the Tarantino brand, the recent resume (within last 20 years), and the ability to get a stacked cast like QT? <<< The answer to the question:

And in my opinion QT is a better director than any current black director. However QT ranks very very high on my list of current directors still doing it, so that's why I said that. It doesn't even have to be a race thing I just have him top 5ish on my current list so he has better than 99% of directors out there to me.
He's in my top 3 as well but I have Spike and Scorsese above him. Django was not a !!ing slave film at all there's is nothing historically accurate in it besides that there's slaves.

To answer your question which is not a clear cut answer, yes. Heres the thing QT doesn't have the resume in films that Spike has. If Spike has just 7 films he'd be on Crooklyn.

Moving away from Spike, Tim Story has an extremely diverse resume when it comes the actors he's worked with, but doesn't have the name. I do think he could pull if off if given the opportunity. F Gary Gray is another name director with one of the better resumes, Forest Whitaker, John Singleton, Stan Lathan etc. Any of these guys could direct a slave film or any other black film but a) won't get a 83 mil budget b) won't get the studios support and a Christmas release c) would be twice as crucified if they made a violent black film let alone with that violence directed at white folk.

My whole point was it's not qualification and it's not skill level it's opportunity right now. This movie has a great story but technically it was lacking the pop of k#ll Bill or Pulp Fiction. Thinking of the power QT has in hollywood is crazy because theres no way any Black director could get this make made. If on an equal playing field I have no doubt they could make the film and probably make it more realistic.
 12-26-2012, 12:16 PMaway - #91
SlickJ101
Originally Posted by Patrick Galooly
I'm sure the Germans had their slurs for Jewish people, point is he stayed the !! away from using them. Like I said Tarentino knows who to !! with and who to stay away from.
[pic] Sensitive mother!!er
 12-26-2012, 12:20 PMaway - #92
brazidee
Galooly is a sensitive !!, I didn't realize that was news around here
 12-26-2012, 12:47 PMaway - #93
dg177bx
Originally Posted by Soda Pop
He's in my top 3 as well but I have Spike and Scorsese above him. Django was not a !!ing slave film at all there's is nothing historically accurate in it besides that there's slaves.

To answer your question which is not a clear cut answer, yes. Heres the thing QT doesn't have the resume in films that Spike has. If Spike has just 7 films he'd be on Crooklyn.

Moving away from Spike, Tim Story has an extremely diverse resume when it comes the actors he's worked with, but doesn't have the name. I do think he could pull if off if given the opportunity. F Gary Gray is another name director with one of the better resumes, Forest Whitaker, John Singleton, Stan Lathan etc. Any of these guys could direct a slave film or any other black film but a) won't get a 83 mil budget b) won't get the studios support and a Christmas release c) would be twice as crucified if they made a violent black film let alone with that violence directed at white folk.

My whole point was it's not qualification and it's not skill level it's opportunity right now. This movie has a great story but technically it was lacking the pop of k#ll Bill or Pulp Fiction. Thinking of the power QT has in hollywood is crazy because theres no way any Black director could get this make made. If on an equal playing field I have no doubt they could make the film and probably make it more realistic.

jesus christ shut the !! up you sensitive bastard
 12-26-2012, 12:52 PMaway - #94
Heisenberg
amazing movie. really had a good time watching it in the theater. everyone clapped at the end.
 12-26-2012, 12:59 PMaway - #95
Djkommish6
I liked it. I was offended at parts but PEOPLE need to know the slave times story. They think it didn't exist or that it wasnt that bad because time has gone by. NO this slavery is why stuff is still messed up in this country. Jamie foxx k#lling all them hatred filled, bigoted people made up for it...hahaha
 12-26-2012, 01:11 PMaway - #96
Mariah Carey
Sorry but that Rick Ross song had me[pic] So random.
 12-26-2012, 01:42 PMaway - #97
DSOM
my temper tells me i should watch this at home...

cause some smart[..] geek laughing at the wrong parts who thinks Im just being "TOO SERIOUS" and I need to "GET OVER MYSELF" "cause its only a movie"

might catch the beats


when I decide I'm not interested in seeing the movie any more and I !! up the experience for everybody since he !!ed up mine.
 12-26-2012, 02:36 PMaway - #98
skillahmang
Originally Posted by critiQue
As much as you worship this man none of his family was slaves and hes never been called a n'gger so how is he better suited to tell a black mans story then a black man?
you do know it happens in hollywood all the time. that's why there is something called research.


should we discredit all authors and directors who write about people,places, and times that they have no connection to?

david simon is white. he depicted baltimore pretty accurate during those times.(The Wire)

the cla#sic mob movies have been written by whites and italians. scorcese and coppola were italian nerds, that never were apart of that lifestyle but they surrounded themselves by the right people to help depict and describe those stories.(Godfather,Goodfellas,Casino)

Last edited by skillahmang; 12-26-2012 at 02:39 PM..
 12-26-2012, 02:53 PMaway - #99
Cheeze
Originally Posted by DSOM
my temper tells me i should watch this at home...

cause some smart[..] geek laughing at the wrong parts who thinks Im just being "TOO SERIOUS" and I need to "GET OVER MYSELF" "cause its only a movie"

might catch the beats


when I decide I'm not interested in seeing the movie any more and I !! up the experience for everybody since he !!ed up mine.
emotional much [pic]
 12-26-2012, 02:58 PMaway - #100
illstate11
Lol idk about y'all but I enjoyed the !! outta this movie and watching the white man get beat and seeing a brother win in a movie. Refreshing to see a foreigner and a black guy use the white devils laws against them. I loved the vengeance against the white man and felt not one bit of guilt enjoying it for all the pain and suffering some of these evil men caused in history.
 
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