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Dark Knight Trilogy: The Joker vs Bane


 Dark Knight Trilogy: The Joker vs Bane
 07-21-2012, 01:41 PMaway - #101
roeballer
Originally Posted by Bobby's World
Bane and Talia worked together. Bane was an upstart who got put out the League. I'm thinking because his tactics would take the League OUT OF THE SHADOWS. So Ras wasnt with it. They handle their business with elegance and behind the scenes and left it as a mystery to the world. Talia was loyal, but she gone ride with her father first. Once Ras got k!lled, all bets were off and Bane was on his I told you so we just gotta bum rush and blow up the whole thing. Since Talia once again was loyal to the man that saved her and this would get back at the dude who k!lled her father, she was ridin with it.

In essence it was ALL RAS AL GHUL. Bane just had a different approach and Talia was ridin with cause he was her original homie and she was pissed by her pops getting k!lled. Therefore they combined both approaches Talia staying on the low and Bane bullyfooting the city for the world to see.
you bring up a great point alot of what they did was behind the scenes, what joker did was in your face and it terrified you. everything joker did was public therefore gaining more exposure and pitting peoples morals against one another. Bane character was weakned to me with the twist of talia
 07-21-2012, 01:41 PMaway - #102
GodsFavorite
Still think the jokers craziness made him the better more fearsome villain. I mightve been expecting too much from the interviews and !! but to me bane was just a martial artist on a mission whereas the joker was just evil

Joker wanted batman to run him over on the pod just to make him lose his morals [pic]
 07-21-2012, 01:43 PMaway - #103
GodsFavorite
joker also started with literally nothing and "took over the city with some bullets and a few drums of gasoline"
 07-21-2012, 01:44 PMaway - #104
1LynguisticMind
i can't pick man [pic]
 07-21-2012, 01:45 PMaway - #105
roeballer
Originally Posted by jholla31
I think they needed each other, both had a common goal and a backstory together, so it only made sense for them to team up. hse even said I needed bane to help me do this ish.

The new 2012 bonnie and Clyde : Talia on the CEO board and bane in the trenches,
perfect harmony of bushiness and intimidation [pic]

but does that make bane a better villian. Joker caused so much mayhem and put lives at stake, changed the persona of one of the most respected ppl in the city and then made him and villian. joker did create two face who gave batman a run for his money
 07-21-2012, 01:52 PMaway - #106
jholla31
Originally Posted by roeballer
but does that make bane a better villian. Joker caused so much mayhem and put lives at stake, changed the persona of one of the most respected ppl in the city and then made him and villian. joker did create two face who gave batman a run for his money

two face gave batman a run for his money??[pic]

What is a villain to y'all , really serious question, like for real, lol

and to the dude who said" joker took over the city just with a few bullets and can of gasoline"

[pic] You need to get off that Scarface (dope-boy) mentality you need leverage to make it to the top bro sorry[pic]
 07-21-2012, 01:54 PMaway - #107
GodsFavorite
Originally Posted by jholla31
two face gave batman a run for his money??[pic]

What is a villain to y'all , really serious question, like for real, lol

and to the dude who said" joker took over the city just with a few bullets and can of gasoline"

[pic] You need to get off that Scarface (dope-boy) mentality you need leverage to make it to the top bro sorry[pic]
[pic] that's a quote from the joker
 07-21-2012, 01:54 PMaway - #108
Bobby's World
Originally Posted by roeballer
you bring up a great point alot of what they did was behind the scenes, what joker did was in your face and it terrified you. everything joker did was public therefore gaining more exposure and pitting peoples morals against one another. Bane character was weakned to me with the twist of talia
I mean with that logic...Joker got the mayor's attention. Bane got the president's attention.[pic]

And that's the thing, Ras wasnt with all that. He wanted to get it done, but slip out the back door quietly. Bane didnt want to escape, that was how he was going to become that symbol...worldwide, not just the city. Talia rode with it cause at that point she just wanted to avenge and satisfy her father's wish to destroy Gotham.

How about this, Scarecrow is better than all of them, he's the only one who survived![pic]
 07-21-2012, 01:57 PMonline - #109
ReppinDaBurghh
Originally Posted by jholla31

please tell me what makes it so under TDK to you and yours?, because you must not live in America in 2012 do you????[pic]
The Dark Knight is just a better movie, period. Better acting, better pacing and it's darker then Tdkr imo.

I think it's hilarious how you Tdkr Stans are acting like its a slap in the face to Nolan and the franchise to say that the most recent one isn't the best one, when I would bet money that 10, 15 years from now even Nolan will say he prefers Tdk.
 07-21-2012, 01:57 PMaway - #110
Michael 1987
Originally Posted by Bobby's World
I mean with that logic...Joker got the mayor's attention. Bane got the president's attention.[pic]

And that's the thing, Ras wasnt with all that. He wanted to get it done, but slip out the back door quietly. Bane didnt want to escape, that was how he was going to become that symbol...worldwide, not just the city. Talia rode with it cause at that point she just wanted to avenge and satisfy her father's wish to destroy Gotham.

How about this, Scarecrow is better than all of them, he's the only one who survived![pic]
[pic]
 07-21-2012, 02:02 PMonline - #111
ReppinDaBurghh
Originally Posted by roeballer
you bring up a great point alot of what they did was behind the scenes, what joker did was in your face and it terrified you. everything joker did was public therefore gaining more exposure and pitting peoples morals against one another. Bane character was weakned to me with the twist of talia
Bane's character was weakened A LOT with the twist of Talia, imo. He wasn't even the man running the show [pic]
 07-21-2012, 02:10 PMaway - #112
roeballer
Originally Posted by jholla31
two face gave batman a run for his money??[pic]

What is a villain to y'all , really serious question, like for real, lol

and to the dude who said" joker took over the city just with a few bullets and can of gasoline"

[pic] You need to get off that Scarface (dope-boy) mentality you need leverage to make it to the top bro sorry[pic]
im saying not only did joker cause mischief but in that he also create another opponent in 2 face that batman had to deal with. at the end of the day Bane was a bully in love, joker was a irrational unpredictable psychopath with no weakness mentally or psychically I could make the aurgument that Bane had both as a weakness
 07-21-2012, 02:20 PMaway - #113
jholla31
Originally Posted by ReppinDaBurghh
The Dark Knight is just a better movie, period. Better acting, better pacing and it's darker then Tdkr imo.

I think it's hilarious how you Tdkr Stans are acting like its a slap in the face to Nolan and the franchise to say that the most recent one isn't the best one, when I would bet money that 10, 15 years from now even Nolan will say he prefers Tdk.
first off not a stan, just a realist who does not live in the past, I made a commitment to strike out ingronace any way, shape, or form.

saying that the acting is better because the joker is not vaild that's one actor, people have had issues with bale as batman all 3 movies.

pacing in this movie, there was not really any slow moments were you felt like not paying attention, TDR was full of them when it came to Bruce's love for that girl and him dealing with the japan business man and those other issues . The only thing you could say is that it was slow at the beginning( wife said that, and she has a PhD)

Also if you go to comic book movies looking for superior acting or psch you are in the wrong genre and should stick more to nancy drew novels,

Its called an action movie for a reason[pic]
I'm sure no one came to see bane play cat and mouse with batman like the joker, or they would have called it " The Dark Knight Visits Joker in Arkam Aslyum For a Weekly Game of chess".........[pic][pic][pic]
 07-21-2012, 02:21 PMaway - #114
Michael 1987
Originally Posted by jholla31
first off not a stan, just a realist who does not live in the past, I made a commitment to strike out ingronace any way, shape, or form.

saying that the acting is better because the joker is not vaild that's one actor, people have had issues with bale as batman all 3 movies.

pacing in this movie, there was not really any slow moments were you felt like not paying attention, TDR was full of them when it came to Bruce's love for that girl and him dealing with the japan business man and those other issues . The only thing you could say is that it was slow at the beginning( wife said that, and she has a PhD)

Also if you go to comic book movies looking for superior acting or psch you are in the wrong genre and should stick more to nancy drew novels,

Its called an action movie for a reason[pic]
I'm sure no one came to see bane play cat and mouse with batman like the joker, or they would have called it " The Dark Knight Visits Joker in Arkam Aslyum For a Weekly Game of chess".........[pic][pic][pic]
[pic][pic][pic][pic]
 07-21-2012, 02:26 PMaway - #115
jholla31
Originally Posted by roeballer
im saying not only did joker cause mischief but in that he also create another opponent in 2 face that batman had to deal with. at the end of the day Bane was a bully in love, joker was a irrational unpredictable psychopath with no weakness mentally or psychically I could make the aurgument that Bane had both as a weakness

Joker had not Physical Weakness?[pic]

so getting whooped by batman is not a physical weakness in your book?[pic]


Being Outsmarted by batman multiple times in the movie is not mental??[pic]

I Guess??[pic]

But I understand your implication that Bane Had an emotional weak spot for Talia, but you did not see that until the end of the movie. so from up to that moment did people fear Joker more or Bane?? Cause most of the people I talked to at the movie theater said bane?[pic]
 07-21-2012, 02:27 PMonline - #116
ReppinDaBurghh
Originally Posted by jholla31
The only thing you could say is that it was slow at the beginning( wife said that, and she has a PhD)
What in the actual !! does this have to do with anything?

[pic]
 07-21-2012, 02:30 PMonline - #117
C.R.I.P.
Originally Posted by ReppinDaBurghh
I honestly can not believe that people are sitting here putting Bane on The Jokers level when it comes to great movie villains. I'm done....

[pic]

Joker is at the TOP of the list, imo.
He broke batman's back after one of the most severe[..] whoopin's in film, and took over Gotham for 5 months.

Id say its a worthy discussion.
 07-21-2012, 02:35 PMaway - #118
x Tha Arkitek x
Originally Posted by roeballer
you bring up a great point alot of what they did was behind the scenes, what joker did was in your face and it terrified you. everything joker did was public therefore gaining more exposure and pitting peoples morals against one another. Bane character was weakned to me with the twist of talia
So after holding up the entire stock exchange building and burying the entire Gotham police department....going on to take out an entire football field & displaying a nuclear b0mb to half of Gotham isn't public? [pic]
 07-21-2012, 02:43 PMaway - #119
jholla31
Originally Posted by ReppinDaBurghh
What in the actual !! does this have to do with anything?

[pic]

it means that she actually has the patience to see something thru to the end, give it a chance; to fully express her ideas and concerns on it in a intelligent way after looking at all points of view[pic]

What The !! have you done lately, (wanted line)lol [pic]

I didn't even bring my accomplishments into the Equation(unnecessary for this conversation), on the internet Im just another person, But it make you pay more attention to my words due to not having any history with me. you just have to interpret my words to the best of your skill...
 07-21-2012, 02:58 PMonline - #120
ReppinDaBurghh
Originally Posted by jholla31
it means that she actually has the patience to see something thru to the end, give it a chance; to fully express her ideas and concerns on it in a intelligent way after looking at all points of view[pic]

What The !! have you done lately, (wanted line)lol [pic]

I didn't even bring my accomplishments into the Equation(unnecessary for this conversation), on the internet Im just another person, But it make you pay more attention to my words due to not having any history with me. you just have to interpret my words to the best of your skill...
I hope you know that typically people who brag about their intelligence (And in this case their significant others intelligence as well) are quite often complete idiots who are insecure about their actual intelligence.

You're sounding like an idiot right now.

That is all.
 
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