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The Dark Knight Rises Question (spoilers)


 The Dark Knight Rises Question (spoilers)
 07-21-2012, 01:44 AMaway - #21
Michael 1987
I left the Bane/Talia part out because i just rather start from when Batman uses the Bat to take the nuke out to sea.


So the ending went like this...

Batman used the Bat to take the nuclear b0mb out to sea to let it explode there so he could save Gotham City. Which would make people think he died but in reality he didn't because that one scientist told Lucious Fox that Bruce Wayne fixed the Bat himself 6 months ago so that's how the Auto-Pilot thing worked. Then we see James Gordon looking surprised because while the city was now hailing Batman as a hero by building him a statue, there was no purpose to owning a bat signal if there is no Batman to come. By leaving John Blake the coordinates to the Batcave and restoring the bat-signal, he was gesturing to Gordon that if ever the city needs Batman, he'll be there. It's obvious that he's looking around for Batman after finding it restored. We also see before hand ...Alfred, James Gordon, Fox & Blake at his burial an Alfred starts crying and saying that he failed bruce's parents in which in he didn't which he later found out.

Later on we see they left something for Alfred when they're dividing up Bruce Wayne's[..]ets, they note that Martha Wayne's pearl necklace is missing. If you recall, there's a tracking device on it. I've read that it's implied that Alfred followed the transmission, leading him to that cafe in Italy. Only then he notices Bruce along with Selina Kyle at a table an gives him the head nod as if the image he had in his head from earlier in the movie were true because bruce came thru in the end an saved everything himself. Though to the public eye bruce was dead and so was batman until Gotham needed him again. Funny thing is most people forgot the device he gave to her to wipe her identity and crime records from the system entirely so nobody would know about her anymore.


If people ask you why or how can James Blake become Batman/Robin/Nightwing without training ...the answer is simple an it came from when Ra's Al Ghul said this to Bruce in the Batman Begins movie....""The training is nothing, the will is everything. The will to act."

I almost forgot to mention...Because i had it wrong before... But then again it could have been either on3 of these...

At the very end we see Blake in the bat cave trying to figure that place out only then he steps on the platform which indicates... "The Dark Knight Rises".

OR

Earlier in the movie there's a part that indicates that "The Dark Knight Rises" is when Bruce Wayne is in the prison and makes his numerous attempts to escape. Each time a person tries to escape, the prisoners all chant "Rise" in some kind of language. When Bruce escapes with the rope and everyone, even the Doctor chants "Rise", that is the true scene that represents "The Dark Knight Rises".

Last edited by Michael 1987; 07-21-2012 at 12:52 PM..
 07-21-2012, 01:58 AMaway - #22
Franchise08
Good points on the autopilot, the necklace, Robin, etc, guess he wasn't dead, it was a good theory but you guys def brought up great points to make it false...thanks for the solid posts...

Except the 1 lame queer...HAH
 07-21-2012, 02:23 AMaway - #23
BlessInTheSky
LOL! So I wasn't the only one who thought it was a fantasy. The points that people brought up totally put an end to that theory, though. I missed the part about the auto-pilot being fixed during the movie.
 07-21-2012, 03:06 AMaway - #24
Franchise08
Yeah I missed that part too, otherwise it would have made a lot more sense..

Last edited by Franchise08; 07-21-2012 at 03:38 AM..
 07-21-2012, 04:55 AMaway - #25
r.burgundy
Originally Posted by youknowmystelo
Throw in a lame ambiguous twist and have everyone talking about it for years. Who cares.

Taxi Driver is one worth talking about, not this.
it wasnt a twist lol.peoples comprehension skills are just at record lows
 07-21-2012, 12:45 PMaway - #26
Cjjr72984
Originally Posted by Michael 1987
I left the Bane/Talia part out because i just rather start from when Batman uses the Bat to take the nuke out to sea.


So the ending went like this...

Batman used the Bat to take the nuclear b0mb out to sea to let it explode there so he could save Gotham City. Which would make people think he died but in reality he didn't because that one scientist told Lucious Fox that Bruce Wayne fixed the Bat himself 6 months ago so that's how the Auto-Pilot thing worked. Then we see James Gordon looking surprised because while the city was now hailing Batman as a hero by building him a statue, there was no purpose to owning a bat signal if there is no Batman to come. By leaving John Blake the coordinates to the Batcave and restoring the bat-signal, he was gesturing to Gordon that if ever the city needs Batman, he'll be there. It's obvious that he's looking around for Batman after finding it restored. We also see before hand ...Alfred, James Gordon, Fox & Blake at his burial an Alfred starts crying and saying that he failed bruce's parents in which in he didn't which he later found out.

Later on we see they left something for Alfred when they're dividing up Bruce Wayne's[..]ets, they note that Martha Wayne's pearl necklace is missing. If you recall, there's a tracking device on it. I've read that it's implied that Alfred followed the transmission, leading him to that cafe in Italy. Only then he notices Bruce along with Selina Kyle at a table an gives him the head nod as if the image he had in his head from earlier in the movie were true because bruce came thru in the end an saved everything himself. Though to the public eye bruce was dead and so was batman until Gotham needed him again. Funny thing is most people forgot the device he gave to her to wipe her identity and crime records from the system entirely so nobody would know about her anymore.

Finally in the end we see Blake in the bat cave trying to figure that place out only then he steps on the platform which indicates... "The Dark Knight Rises".

If people ask you why or how can James Blake become batman himself without training ...the answer is simple an it came from when Ra's Al Ghul said this to Bruce in the Batman Begins movie....""The training is nothing, the will is everything. The will to act."

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 07-21-2012, 12:49 PMaway - #27
keen77
Taxi Driver worth talking about, not this? Ever been to the psychiatrist, Stella?
 07-22-2012, 02:22 PMaway - #28
doro85
i dont think the platform rising was "rising" part, i think it was the prison escape..

when he enters the cave i think that s more of a beginning, because if u remember, everything was to a T with that scene from when Bruce did it in Batman Begins, from the way he was holding the light to the bats flyin out at him
 07-22-2012, 05:14 PMonline - #29
santos0303
Also don't forget that the pearl necklace had the tracking device in it and they say when they're giving out bruces stuff that the pearl necklace was missing and you see selina wearing it when they're sitting at the table so that's how alfred probably found them
 07-22-2012, 05:31 PMaway - #30
joshdogg26
Originally Posted by santos0303
Also don't forget that the pearl necklace had the tracking device in it and they say when they're giving out bruces stuff that the pearl necklace was missing and you see selina wearing it when they're sitting at the table so that's how alfred probably found them
nah alfred told him he vacationed to that same spot every year and went out and had a drink at the cafe every day. bruce found alfred.
 07-22-2012, 05:39 PMonline - #31
psylence2k
Originally Posted by santos0303
Also don't forget that the pearl necklace had the tracking device in it and they say when they're giving out bruces stuff that the pearl necklace was missing and you see selina wearing it when they're sitting at the table so that's how alfred probably found them
people keep saying this but I re-watched the ending online and I dont see them say anything about a pearl necklace missing and I need to see the movie in the theater again because I can barely tell by the crappy bootleg if Selina is wearing anything at all.

Either way you dont have to reach that far, Alfread already frequented that cafe numerous times every summer when wayne was gone, and he told Wayne of his fantasy of seeing him there.

Even if Selina was wearing the pearls, it's more likely Alfred just went there cuz he always use to, rather than him finding the tracking device and hunting them down which the film never hinted at anyway.
 07-22-2012, 05:48 PMaway - #32
youngral
Originally Posted by Michael 1987
I left the Bane/Talia part out because i just rather start from when Batman uses the Bat to take the nuke out to sea.


So the ending went like this...

Batman used the Bat to take the nuclear b0mb out to sea to let it explode there so he could save Gotham City. Which would make people think he died but in reality he didn't because that one scientist told Lucious Fox that Bruce Wayne fixed the Bat himself 6 months ago so that's how the Auto-Pilot thing worked. Then we see James Gordon looking surprised because while the city was now hailing Batman as a hero by building him a statue, there was no purpose to owning a bat signal if there is no Batman to come. By leaving John Blake the coordinates to the Batcave and restoring the bat-signal, he was gesturing to Gordon that if ever the city needs Batman, he'll be there. It's obvious that he's looking around for Batman after finding it restored. We also see before hand ...Alfred, James Gordon, Fox & Blake at his burial an Alfred starts crying and saying that he failed bruce's parents in which in he didn't which he later found out.

Later on we see they left something for Alfred when they're dividing up Bruce Wayne's[..]ets, they note that Martha Wayne's pearl necklace is missing. If you recall, there's a tracking device on it. I've read that it's implied that Alfred followed the transmission, leading him to that cafe in Italy. Only then he notices Bruce along with Selina Kyle at a table an gives him the head nod as if the image he had in his head from earlier in the movie were true because bruce came thru in the end an saved everything himself. Though to the public eye bruce was dead and so was batman until Gotham needed him again. Funny thing is most people forgot the device he gave to her to wipe her identity and crime records from the system entirely so nobody would know about her anymore.


If people ask you why or how can James Blake become Batman/Robin/Nightwing without training ...the answer is simple an it came from when Ra's Al Ghul said this to Bruce in the Batman Begins movie....""The training is nothing, the will is everything. The will to act."

I almost forgot to mention...Because i had it wrong before... But then again it could have been either on3 of these...

At the very end we see Blake in the bat cave trying to figure that place out only then he steps on the platform which indicates... "The Dark Knight Rises".

OR

Earlier in the movie there's a part that indicates that "The Dark Knight Rises" is when Bruce Wayne is in the prison and makes his numerous attempts to escape. Each time a person tries to escape, the prisoners all chant "Rise" in some kind of language. When Bruce escapes with the rope and everyone, even the Doctor chants "Rise", that is the true scene that represents "The Dark Knight Rises".
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 07-22-2012, 06:07 PMaway - #33
NoahJordan
Originally Posted by psylence2k
people keep saying this but I re-watched the ending online and I dont see them say anything about a pearl necklace missing and I need to see the movie in the theater again because I can barely tell by the crappy bootleg if Selina is wearing anything at all.

Either way you dont have to reach that far, Alfread already frequented that cafe numerous times every summer when wayne was gone, and he told Wayne of his fantasy of seeing him there.

Even if Selina was wearing the pearls, it's more likely Alfred just went there cuz he always use to, rather than him finding the tracking device and hunting them down which the film never hinted at anyway.
where can you see it online?
 07-22-2012, 06:14 PMaway - #34
joshdogg26
Originally Posted by psylence2k
people keep saying this but I re-watched the ending online and I dont see them say anything about a pearl necklace missing and I need to see the movie in the theater again because I can barely tell by the crappy bootleg if Selina is wearing anything at all.

Either way you dont have to reach that far, Alfread already frequented that cafe numerous times every summer when wayne was gone, and he told Wayne of his fantasy of seeing him there.

Even if Selina was wearing the pearls, it's more likely Alfred just went there cuz he always use to, rather than him finding the tracking device and hunting them down which the film never hinted at anyway.
i saw it twice. the lawyer definitely says it's missing when they're going over his will.
 
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