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topic by īntellek't - 10-31-2005, 04:47 PM
The Dress Code - Kicks / Clothing / Fashion
...Spend 5 minutes reading this and strengthen your shoe and clothing knowledge forever...It's your choice...and it's your own fault if you waste your money on variants/fakes.
An Online Shoe Site Sells Variants If...
Official Jordan Brand Website: Jumpman23.com
Official Nike Website: Nike.com
...the prices on the site are too good to be true and/or all the shoes are being sold at the same price. (If you're too slow to realize that a pair of 100% authentic J's or Bape's will NEVER sell for $70 or $85, this thread is definitely for you. No offense but read up!)
...there are endless amounts of colorways offered on the site. ALL OFFICIAL colorways of Air Jordan's are listed on this site: AIR-JORDANS.COM If they are not on Air-Jordans.com, be a.ssured that 99.99% of the time the site you're viewing will not be selling an "exclusive" authentic colorway (Authentic exclusives are usually PE's (Player Exclusives) only made and given to professional athletes and/or celebrities).
...the site has a Full Size Run (FSR) of all the shoes they are selling. FSR's for J's on any site is almost impossible! I'd say the only instances when you could see a FSR for J's is if an official GR Jordan is being released (with an official release date) and Eastbay/Finishline would have the shoes up for a few days or so until they sell out their stock.
...the site's Policy and/or Disclaimer page is suspect. These sites will try and use fancy adjectives and language to fool the online consumer into thinking their product is of good quality. Don't be fooled by these lies! Also, their Policy and/or Disclaimer sites will usually say something like "We are not affiliated with Nike, Jordan, etc." on it.
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|10-31-2005, 04:52 PM||away - #2|
How To Spot Fake Bapes Pt. 1
HOW TO SPOT FAKE LACOSTE
Official Lacoste Website:
...you should know that most "Lacoste" polos sold on eBay are fake.
...it should have the following characteristics:
Shirt tag =
DESIGNED IN FRANCE
MADE IN FRANCE
Shirt tag =
DESIGNED IN FRANCE
MADE IN PERU
HECHO IN PERU
RN 87651- CA 16998
(This tag info is written in forest green lettering)
Authentic Lacoste which lists MADE IN PERU on the tag is not as good in quality as Lacoste MADE IN FRANCE.
...the crocodile logo patch will be about 1 1/4" long and 3/4'' tall. It should be inbetween the 2nd button and the 'lapel', about an inch or more below the 2nd botton. It's the seam below the 2nd botton.
...the size on the shirt will be written as a number between 3 and 9 (written in red) (3=M to 9=XXL) on the top left corner of the tag.
...the polo will have an inner tag on the bottom right side of the polo. The white tag says 'Devanlay' and lists washing instructions on it. It shouldn't have stars on the sides of the word 'Devanlay'.
(Thanks to thegod as well as "princeison" from for providing some of the Lacoste info on this thread.)
The major downfalls of the poloís however were not in their attention to detail, but in their construction. The first problem was that the logo had been produced first and then sawn onto the polo later which left obvious stitch marks on the inside of the shirt. The second was the weave of the material, the first fakes to come out of India had a honeycomb weave which is easily identifiable by itís hexagonal look. The later designs which are floating around today were closer to the Lacoste "petit pique" but use much less cotton and are thus much thinner. A good way to test for authenticity of fabric is to put your hand inside the shirt and if you can see it, it is probably fake. There are other minor details which can be used to pick between fake and authentic poloís which I have out lined below.
Things to look for:
The Fake Crocodile has very little attention to detail the teeth are less apparent
The original Polo has sharp stitching which appears much tighter and more luminescent.
The fake button has hard edges
The real button has soft edges
Very little detail on the fake crocodile
The eyes of the croc in particular are more detailed
Here is something you should
*This is a thread in progress. It will be updated whenever important info needs to be addressed.*
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|12-03-2005, 11:17 AM||away - #3|
How To Spot Fake Bapes Pt. 1
HOW TO SPOT FAKE BAPE KICKS
The Bapesta is probably one of the more recognisable trend shoes for the past few years. One simple key to note, is that it looks exactly like the Nike Air Force 1 low. Thats the whole point of the bapesta, it was designed to emulate the shoe of choice among the fore runners of streetstyle in Japan. The classic "uptowns" are worn by a great majority of the trendsetters, be it nostalgia, hip hop or b-ball influences.
Nigo simply wanted a shoe that was like the Air Force 1 low, but re-interpreted in the bathing ape way. Hence we have the iconic swoosh replaced by the "sta-swoosh", the trademark sole pattern re-worked, and the heel tab featuring the bape embroidery.
The famous words from Spiderman: "With power comes great responsibility"
As with bape and other fashionable products, "With popularity comes mass immitation." Early bapesta fakes were done using the fake Air Force 1's that were already in the market. The most noticeable flaw are the ankle and heel shapes, not mention an ugly boxy toe-box.
Lately,there have been fakes that are better-made, with well-made boxes and shoebags as well.
Take a look at the detailed pic of the REAL bapesta
Note the following:
* Overall shape is exactly like the nike AF1 low
* Heel tab embroidery shows the "bape" logo clearly, the tail of the "A-star" that intersects the letter "P" is not joined to letter "E".
* The "registered R" does not touch the letter B, and the word "sta" and "bape" should not be connected.
* "Sta swoosh" is cleanly made and stitched, the jagged edge of the swoosh is parallel
Now lets look at the FAKE bapesta
Compared to the pic of the REAL bapesta,
* Toebox is chunkier, and shorter than the real bapesta
* Ankle area is lower
* Heel tab shape is off
* Heel tab embroidery is different
* Sta swoosh has wrong shape, the tail is too short in the 1st case
In most cases, the fake bapesta is made with poor workmanship and low-quality materials.
Next, the box details
Note that the REAL bapesta box has:
* Size Label located at bottom right corner
* The Box top lid when closed, should not cover the Label
* The box print should be clear and made of hard cardboard material
Shoes bought from the official Bape stores will come with the nylon "Footsoldier" shoe bag. Most Fake bapestas come with purple "Footsoldier" shoe bag. (Don't ask me why purple)
NOTE: Most fakes come with purple/red shoe bags, but that does not mean that bape sta's with purple/red shoe bags are fake!!!
FINAL NOTE: Most Importantly if the price is too good to be true. It probably is. Especially with Bape merchandise, Evisu, etc. These brands are normally very expensive so if someone is trying to give you a "deal" it probably is fake.
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|12-18-2005, 04:47 PM||away - #4|
Q: How do you lace your kicks?
A: Go To:
Q: What do I need to make my own iron-on tees and how do I do it?
A: Most iron-on transfer packages come with instructions. Read the instructions first b/c all sets are different. Use an inkjet printer to print out your graphics. When using iron-on transfer paper, remember to mirror your image if necessary so your graphic will iron-on correctly onto your shirt. If you are using fabric iron-on's, mirroring the image isn't necessary. It is suggested to use the fabric iron-on technique.
You can find both iron-on types at any major chain computer and/or stationary store. (Examples: Best Buy, Circuit City, Staples) You can find the stuff on eBay as well; search for "Iron On Transfer Paper"
If you want the same design printed on many shirts, it is suggested to have the shirts professionally made by a screen printing store/website. Quality will be better with this method.
Q: What do DS, VNDS, and NDS stand for?
A: DS - Deadstock. Never worn, brand new, and exactly in the same condition that it was stocked in the store that they were bought from.
VNDS - Very Near Deadstock. Only worn a couple of times, very clean, very close to deadstock condition.
NDS - Near Deadstock. They have been worn several times but are still in good, presentable condition without any major signs of wear.
Last edited by S; 05-22-2007 at 09:35 PM..
|07-13-2006, 10:17 PM||away - #5|
! FAQ's For Variants/Fakes !
1. Can you tell me more about variants/fake shoes?
Fakes, also known as variants, are 100% fake and are in no way a.ssociated with authentic manufacturers. A well known fact about fakes is their overall quality is subpar and they fall apart very quickly, usually after just a few wears. Variants/fakes often have shoes made which have never been created by an authentic manufacturer. This means that all these "exclusive" colorways have never been made by a real shoe company. Although some may not know any better, these fake colorways will be an obvious variant/fake on your feet.
2. How are variants distributed?
Bootleg factories re-create their own version of an authentic shoe. Variants/fakes are made in to be a look-a-like of an authentic shoe. Variants/fakes are not made with similar quality/materials/detail. Variants/fakes allow you to fool the casual everyday person looking at your shoes. Variant/fake distributers (including online sites and many personal bootleg sellers) ship their products from overseas. There is a great risk of your purchase being seized by customs and/or you personally being charged with large custom taxes.
3. How much do variants/fakes go for? And how much would you expect to spend to buy in bulk to start bootlegging on your own?
When dealing with a seller/site that sells variants/fakes, prices of the seller/site will almost always be very similar for any style/size. At times, everything from the seller/site will be the same price. Prices for variants/fakes will usually never go past $100 (most selling between $70-85 a pair) for the common everyday consumer.
Most variant wholesalers can charge $30-$50 a pair if you buy from them in bulk (we're talking up to hundreds of pairs). It is also good to know that 99 out of 100 "wholesale dealers" who have the "hookup" on kicks and clothing sell variant/fake/bootleg product.
4. What's the difference between variants/fakes and authentic shoes?
Variants/fakes are simply a bad attempt at copying an authentic shoe. The quality of variants/fakes is poor, they are not made with the same materials...most of the time they aren't even sized correctly (sized a 1/2 to one size smaller or bigger, depending on what bootleg factory made your variants). Variants/fakes are in no way connected with the makers of authentic shoes. This includes factories which make variant shoes.
5. How can I be sure I'm not buying fake shoes?
If you are looking for a "deal" on a pair of shoes that should cost several hundred dollars and all of a sudden you've found them for $79.99 and they have every size available, you're obviously dealing with variants/fakes. When a site has all sizes and all shoes available (for example, all I through XXI of Jordan's, many colors, sizes), you're dealing with variants/fakes. If you honestly have no clue how to tell the difference, I feel it's best to a.ssume that you are dealing with fakes and need to gain some more knowledge on both authentic shoes and fakes before moving forward with any purchase.