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Is Jordan Brand fu-king up their product value by producing so many pairs recently?

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 Is Jordan Brand fu-king up their product value by producing so many pairs recently?
Unread 12-24-2012, 06:39 PMJoined Mar 2012 - away - #21
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demand is higher than the supply so it doesn't seem like the product value is lowering. if anything is lowering the value it would be the sh*tty quality.
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Unread 12-24-2012, 06:40 PMJoined Jul 2007 - away - #22
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I definitely see where you're coming from, but let me answer your question with a question. Is Converse losing any cache among its die-hards because of how many shoes they have in the market? The Chuck Taylor is a basketball sneaker that pre-dates any Jordan by nearly a decade and still receives the limited treatment that extends beyond the timeless, readily available pairs. We see limited Stussy, Undefeated, Missoni, the studded joints, and we might even be able to count the John Varvatos pairs.

And that's just one silhouette. Jordan Brand has at least 14 different pairs to choose from for various releases to experiment with colors, themes, and -- one day, I hope -- materials. sh*t, most people into Jordans can name 3 pairs they love without hesitation (I pick 3, 6, 8). No retro is still in the performance line, but they're still wildly popular. I think we're sooner to see price drops on standard pairs & colors with price increases applied to "premium" pairs before we'll see Jordan Brand saturate itself into obscurity.

Right now, we're seeing something unique happening with the LeBron X line (that started with the 8) by having performance-based sneakers in the market and lifestyle, NSW pairs coming to follow. The 'Cork' X is gonna drop, and it will be sought after (and maybe limited) like the Denim 8s and the Italian leather joints. I would expect that school of thought to carry down the hall into Jordan Brand's office -- to start developing Denim versions of classic silhouettes, marked up while the retros plateau between 160 and 170.

So, from a business stand point, I think they're good.

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IMO the price is not a problem for me, it's the difficulty of getting a pair that I don't like. Just put enough pairs out, they will still sell out.
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They control it themselves. They produced limited pairs with the previous retro releases. People built up hype because of the availability. Now they are mass producing cause everyone will buy them out of fear they wont get a pair. but it will be too late when people realize that they are widely available, jb/nike will have sold out of them and yes the market will be flooded. but all jb/nike has to do is start producing limited pairs of other heat and people will start acting even crazier.
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Ppl always say he should make more pairs n when he does this happens. I say make more that way all the hypes can't charge r*pe prices. I actually wear my kicks. Too many ppl cop to re-sell. sh*t disgusts me!
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I'm just going to say I have friends at nike and they know what the fu*k they are doing

They have been an analytical company for a long time, but they have been using it as of recently to their advantage. They are collecting a lot of data on a lot of units/demand/rsvp/trend topics etc... if the breds dropped next year it would be the same demand. trust me when I say this nike is good on the business side. they will always be the leaders when it comes to shoes period. they are one company that actually seizes a lot of there advantage points. You guys also have to realize these shoes are getting produced with cheaper materials and they are still saving and making shoes for extremely low prices. So fu*k what if a shoe doesn't sell send it to the outlet or swoosh and still double your profits.

Also, side bar they are still A LOT of people that did not get a pair. Most people barely got 1 to a few pairs. Mostly people on boxden got a pair, because we started utilizing all our sources, which most average people don't have. Lines and prices would be no where near what they are if everyone got a pair.
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I think Jordan is kind of dumb... I think now that he has some many players wearing his sneakers.. I feel instead of releasing like 6 pairs of sneakers in 1 year.. He should just release 1 pair of sneakers all year in those active players team color ways.. For example in 2013 he releases the Jordan 12s in October he releases 4 Sneakers in Ray Allens team color.. The next month he releases the 12s in Carmelos Team colors.. and then for the holidays release a classic.. then in 2014 does the same with the Jordan 13s.. etc.. the way hes going now his sneakers are getting played quick..
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those ugly a.ss thunders still sitting on shelves over here as i type this
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Originally Posted by pandemon
those ugly a.ss thunders still sitting on shelves over here as i type this
This is why, in a nutshell, Jordan Brand can't ruin its product value. When it comes to retros, one man's "ugly a.ss thunders" are another's grails. There are so many silhouettes that the permutation between models and colors and materials are endless.
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Originally Posted by hbk83
They control it themselves. They produced limited pairs with the previous retro releases. People built up hype because of the availability. Now they are mass producing cause everyone will buy them out of fear they wont get a pair. but it will be too late when people realize that they are widely available, jb/nike will have sold out of them and yes the market will be flooded. but all jb/nike has to do is start producing limited pairs of other heat and people will start acting even crazier.
Yeah that's real cuz that's what happened to me w/ the 11's. I was fiening thinking I wasn't gonna get a pair, then after I copped I find out they produced 500,000 pairs.
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yes..
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they are not ruining there value most people who cop them gonna wear them to the ground & most of og's are not wearable
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Originally Posted by egotistical
I'm just going to say I have friends at nike and they know what the fu*k they are doing

They have been an analytical company for a long time, but they have been using it as of recently to their advantage. They are collecting a lot of data on a lot of units/demand/rsvp/trend topics etc... if the breds dropped next year it would be the same demand. trust me when I say this nike is good on the business side. they will always be the leaders when it comes to shoes period. they are one company that actually seizes a lot of there advantage points. You guys also have to realize these shoes are getting produced with cheaper materials and they are still saving and making shoes for extremely low prices. So fu*k what if a shoe doesn't sell send it to the outlet or swoosh and still double your profits.

Also, side bar they are still A LOT of people that did not get a pair. Most people barely got 1 to a few pairs. Mostly people on boxden got a pair, because we started utilizing all our sources, which most average people don't have. Lines and prices would be no where near what they are if everyone got a pair.


love this small community, Niketalk,solecollecter get rapped with so many people you cant get real info without everyone knowing.
only got the 11's cause someone here posted their history link
sh*t like that dont be happening on other sites lol
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