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why blame bosh??


 why blame bosh??
 11-10-2010, 01:07 PMaway - #41
ClevelandRay
it's not his fault he can't play under the basket?
it's not his fault he is lost in the offence?
it's not his faltt he isn't a great defender?
it's not his fault he watches like a fan while the rest of them play???
 11-10-2010, 01:08 PMaway - #42
fmoney88
Originally Posted by luker1920
as a celtics fan the only guy i worry about k!lling us is Lebron, Wade can score 30 and take all the shots he want, i aint scared of him
exactly thank you for saying this. Wade can put up huge scoring every night and it won't equate to a win.

If lebron has a huge night, the heat would probably win. Teams are fine with dwade scoring. They know as long lebron doesnt score much they have a chance to beat the heat
 11-10-2010, 01:08 PMaway - #43
PUA Lifestyle
Did anyone consider that those three are just over rated on defense and collectively as a team suck !! for a living.
 11-10-2010, 01:10 PMaway - #44
Bouncer
Ts is right.... wade is a !!. Dude needs to stop worrying about scoring more than lebron n needs to start playing team ball.

Dude is prolly happy as hell right now cuz he's averaging more than lebron [pic]
 11-10-2010, 01:15 PMaway - #45
bibbyboi
Originally Posted by ozWinston
how big is that malgoire or however you spell it guy? i dont think i've seen him, if he's big, they need to let him get some pt
Just out of curiosity, how old are you? I figured everyone knew who Magloire was...

What they need to do is drop Big Z(even though it hurts me to say that) and pick up Dampier...That would solve a lot of their problems right there...

I think they need to run more too...Every missed shot should be pushed down the floor...they have the 2 best fast break finishers and Bosh who can run the floor, they should be getting most of their points in transition...
 11-10-2010, 01:27 PMonline - #46
WezLFaCe_KiD
Originally Posted by knowughetto
Why would the offense be a lot smoother with Wade not getting any touches? Wade is their leader, franchise player, and go-to-guy...That would be stupid for them not to allow Wade any touches, it defeats the whole purpose....In that case, LeBron should have just stayed in Cleveland, and Bosh should have went to Cleveland too..Bosh is supposed to be one of the stars and major key players on that team, and he's not getting it done offensively or defensively....
dont read this guys post! he is the worst! he does anything to say that lbj is the best player on the team. he doesnt know bball at all. his thread are the worst ive seen in boxden.
 11-10-2010, 01:30 PMaway - #47
Quik
Originally Posted by fmoney88
IMO the heat offense would be alot smoother if it where just Lebron + Bosh with no Wade.
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 11-10-2010, 01:34 PMonline - #48
WezLFaCe_KiD
:iagree:yea more like wade is the only one showing up in the clutch.
 11-10-2010, 01:50 PMaway - #49
kidrockstylez
sees that this is the same guy who said ginobili is better than iverson at everything he does [pic]
 11-10-2010, 01:57 PMaway - #50
joshdogg26
Originally Posted by Reppindaburghh
[pic] at this dude saying Wade is a problem. [pic]?


Listen bro, I'm a fellow Lebron stan but you are taking it to the next level. Last night when they were going to take the last shot of the game who did you want to take the shot? If you say Lebron, !!. I was hoping Wade would get the ball in his hands and take that shot. Wade has been BEASTING it these past few games.

You are right about Lebron trying way to hard to be what everyone wants him to be, though. He needs to do what he did in Cleveland. He is barely even slashing to the hoop since he's been with Miami. That is what you are good at, Lebron, keep !!ing doing it. Pat Riley needs to go in the locker room and smack some sense into dude.

Hopefully now that they lost a few games and the expectations of them having a 72 win season are out the window, they will allow some pressure to fall off of their backs and they will pull it together.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if Boston gets the W Thurdsday. They still have plenty of time to pull it together though, and I'm sure they will.

But gtfoh saying Wade is the problem [pic].
[pic] :applause:

Originally Posted by Andre3stacks
[pic] Wade is the problem?? I done heard it all.
:applause:

Originally Posted by fmoney88
Wade is definately the problem. Expect a role reversal next game. mark my words. Dwade will be alot less aggresive next time, I know basketball so I know what im talking about. I gurantee lebron is the leading scorer next game.

And yes at the end of the game I would want the ball in Lebron hands. I would want him to drive to the lane and either take a shot and get fouled or find the open man. Lebron is a far better playmaker than Dwade, you want the ball in the best playmakers hands at the end of games.
Originally Posted by fmoney88
wade is a ball stopper. Dude never passes anymore. When lebron gives him the ball the offense just stops
Originally Posted by fmoney88
exactly you making my point clearer. Wade is being too aggresive, so its disrupting the offense. They will be better off with Lebron doing what he did in cleveland. Being a aggresive point guard essentially. Lebron is being a passive aggressive point guard right now.

Dwade simply needs to stop being a ball stopper. If you noticed Lebron doesnt get much[..]ists when he passes to wade. This is because when he passes to wade, wade holds the ball and tries to go one on one against his defender. This is disrupting the offense
Originally Posted by fmoney88
Pay attention during the games. When wade is not on the floor and its bosh and lebron. The offense runs alot more fluently and leads are increased. Miami is actually losing leads when lebron isn't on the floor.
everything ur saying is wrong as !!. the problem isn't that wade is being TOO aggressive, it's that lebron ISN'T being aggressive enough. the offense is stagnant as !! when it's just lebron out there. ALL HE DOES is run pick and pop with Z repeatedly till somebody gets open for a long jumper. if nobody gets open for a long jumper, then he takes a long jumper himself. he NEVER attacks off the pick and roll. the only time he drives is when he rejects the screen.

if anything, wade is the ONLY one playing their part to a T right now. lebron is going overboard in trying to be a facilitator and not driving the ball hardly at all. the team goes when dwyane wade goes, which is obvious to everyone but u. however, since u can't manage to see this from watching, here r the statistics for both players, with the one doing better in each category circled for u:

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and no, the point of this isn't to say who's better, because i don't care what u think. it's just to debunk the dumbass idea u have that this is somehow wade's fault for being the only player performing well. so that it's clear for u, offensive rating is how many points produced per 100 possessions. the team's offensive rating is 109.2. so who is making it stagnant?

i'm not saying lebron sucks or he should disapear or get out of the way, i'm saying i want him to be MORE aggressive. 5-18 should never happen when u have his size and ability. the shots r there if he wants to take them, he's just being too passive.
 11-10-2010, 02:08 PMaway - #51
Kadroan
Originally Posted by Rubix
Neither are really the problem. The problem is the center or lack thereof.
yeah exactly. you're not going to win a championship with joel anthony at center
 11-10-2010, 02:46 PMaway - #52
rawchester
Originally Posted by fmoney88
exactly you making my point clearer. Wade is being too aggresive, so its disrupting the offense. They will be better off with Lebron doing what he did in cleveland. Being a aggresive point guard essentially. Lebron is being a passive aggressive point guard right now.

Dwade simply needs to stop being a ball stopper. If you noticed Lebron doesnt get much[..]ists when he passes to wade. This is because when he passes to wade, wade holds the ball and tries to go one on one against his defender. This is disrupting the offense
so you want wade to become anthony parker ??? [pic][pic][pic]

i'll tell u what disrpts the offense. Bron taking voer pg duties and looking to get an[..]ist everytime down the floor.
 11-10-2010, 03:14 PMonline - #53
L-E-Dub Bitch
TS is an idiot

its the miami cavaliers when bron is out there
 11-10-2010, 03:39 PMaway - #54
Cambury
Originally Posted by rawchester
so you want wade to become anthony parker ??? [pic][pic][pic]

i'll tell u what disrpts the offense. Bron taking voer pg duties and looking to get an[..]ist everytime down the floor.
Bron is a proven statchaser and the reason they dont break is becuz he beats errbody to da Dboards tryna get his triple double...nicca will jump ova his momma for a rebound
 11-10-2010, 03:46 PMaway - #55
Chaos
LeBron is the problem.
 11-10-2010, 03:47 PMaway - #56
Chaos
How is Wade the problem?

Bosh isn't the issue. I knew this Wade/LeBron issue would come up sooner or later[pic]
 11-10-2010, 05:10 PMaway - #57
2 Pistolz
Originally Posted by fmoney88
If you noticed Lebron doesnt get much[..]ists when he passes to wade. This is because when he passes to wade, wade holds the ball and tries to go one on one against his defender. This is disrupting the offense
Are you proposing for Wade to become more of a catch-and-shoot guard? Not going to happen. He's supposed to be "overly aggressive" - he's Dwyane Wade. That is the nature of what makes him the player he is today.

To blame Dwyane Wade for Miami's struggles right now is just crazy. His[..]ist numbers are down because LeBron is dominating the ball and running the offense. It's not that he's not looking to set up teammates.

Dwyane Wade does not disrupt the flow of this offense. If anything, Carlos Arroyo and Joel Anthony do because defenses don't even account for those guys and it's a lot easier to zero in on whichever of the big 3 is attacking.
 11-10-2010, 05:12 PMaway - #58
2 Pistolz
Originally Posted by fmoney88
wade is a ball stopper. Dude never passes anymore. When lebron gives him the ball the offense just stops
His role has changed in that aspect. You're not going to have two players on the floor with a pass first PG mentality, especially when Joel Anthony and Carlos Arroyo are two of your 3 offensive options aside from Wade and LeBron.

Wade is more passive once a shooter gets into the game. That's on Spo for 2/5 of the starting 5 not complimenting the three main players in the line up.

LeBron James came here to become more of a pass first player. That's what he's always wanted to be.
 11-13-2010, 12:28 AMaway - #59
fmoney88
[pic] YouTube - Heat Breakdown: Celtics vs. Heat 11.11.10
 11-13-2010, 12:52 AMaway - #60
shadymilkman
Here's my take. They need to run the offense through Bosh early in the game. Give him touches, you know he's gonna score, then when the D collapses kick it out for open jumpers. Bosh gets in rhythm, James and Wade get their jumpers off and things will be smooth. My idea is better than James or Wade standing at the top of the key till 8 seconds left then throwing up a crap shot.
 
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