Top ten rated QB's in NFL Madden 13

overrated: both Mannings and Ben
underrated: Romo

Stafford is not that good 1 good season and everyone on his nuts next year he will be ranked back in the 10-20 QBs

I did answer your question. I said you're overstating the issue, which you are. No one gives a !! about Brees' height. In fact, the only person in the media who constantly mention it is Jon Gruden's weird[..] whenever he gets into that Monday Night Football booth during a Saints game. I was talking strictly about Brees' height in all my statements so I didn't read whatever else you had to say since none of it is relevant to my arguments. I never said Brees' pocket presence wasn't good. Never said he didn't have intangibles and wasn't a great guy. Just said that his height shouldn't make what he does more amazing than any other great QB. It's cool, but really nothing serious.

Does that change the fact that there are QBs who have succeeded at 6'0? And there's not much difference between 6'0 and 6'2, and a lot of QBs have succeeded in that range. There's not some huge discrepancy there.

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Tony Romo

66.3 comp% 31Td 10 Int 102.5 Rate

Phillip Rivers

62.9% 27Td 20 Int 88.7 rate

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thats fake brah madden knows damn well Smith ain't no damn 98 nicca prolly rated between 82-85

Madden always hates on the Giants [pic]

Everybody is always against the Giants. The world is against you huh [pic]

Eli and Ben are clutch but they're overrated. I'll take Peyton (if he can still throw a 40 yard down the seam) and Rivers over them any day. Both of those dudes play on teams with top 2 defenses!

They've both been starting the same amount of years.

Rivers 3,451 yards and 14 more TDs, only 6 more INTS. More playoff wins and better head-to-head. Plus, a better winning percentage with a 63-33 record compared to Romo's record of 47-30.

Romo only has a better QB Rating than Rivers, 96.4 to his 95.8. What does rating even mean though? Rivers and Aaron Rodgers are the only Quarterbacks to post a season of a 100+ QB rating in three consecutive seasons.

How many playoffs wins does Romo have again, one? [pic]

Holy !! people are really trying to say the option system is tougher than the west coast??? The west coast offense has the smallest Windows and quickest drop steps in the league. QBs have to know the defensive alignment before snap to flourish. Peyton played in the same option system as Eli and wasn't a INT machine. That's a sorry excuse

rivers benefits from dinking it off to his RBs for big YAC gains which pad his stats.

no peyton did not play in that system. peyton audibles his receivers routes at the line of scrimmage which is not the same at all.

the west coast system is far easier for the QB. they know exactly when and where their receivers are gonna be there is no guess work involved. it's why guys like vick that can't read a defense to save their life can still have success.

staff with the 91....my boy

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You did not......you said its not a big deal and failed to mention other QBs similar in stature who were worth a damn. Thats the question Im referring to......you've dodged it the past few pages. You said it like 6 foot QBs are a dime a dozen like every scout is dying to have one. I never said you said Drew's pocket presence wasn't good [pic] all I said in summary was that guys see QBs running around and automatically think they're superior to a QB with decent athleticism and superior pocket presence. A scrambling QB is just as frustrating to a DLINE as a QB who slides in the pocket and gets rid of the ball quickly......Brees and Rodgers are great in their own ways.

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[pic] Rivers is one of the best deep ball/big play Quarterbacks in the game, not to mention Dallas runs tons more WR sscrens and dump off passes compared to San Diego.

Andy Reid doesn't run a real west coast offense, he runs a spread with west coast elements. And Vick didn't run the west coast well here when we had Knapp. And Peyton did run an option route scheme, that's any time he threw a pick he'd always be pissed at the receiver saying you should've done this.

And the option read isn't as complex as you're making it sound, it's a zone read that Vick did here where receivers run at certain depths based on coverage/man alignment and determine the route based on the depth of the break. The windows are usually wide open for a QB to throw into because the route is completely dependent on the coverage. If its a cover 2, the QB has a wide open cover 2 buster, if its outside man alignment the slant is wide open, etc. etc...in the west coast you have your routes and you have to fit the ball in tighter places with pinpoint accuracy because beyond different break points, the options for a receiver in his route are limited. All slants in the cover 2 have to be fit between 2 LBs, seam against all 2 has to hit the back shoulder fade(one of the toughest throws to get right and visualize btw), etc...the windows start closing up and that's where great QBs have to throw their man open. 9 routes that are covered don't become comebacks with the WCO, unlike the option read.

i agree but he also dinked it off a lot to tomlinson and then sproles who are 2 of the best YAC Rbs ever. i wasn't trying to say romo was better or anything by making that statement.
i understand completely what you're saying. what i'm saying is the read option can lead to many more turnovers and mistakes because both the QB and receivers have to read the same thing pre and post snap. it's much more complicated in that sense than the west coast offense. i understand what you're saying as far as the WC offense being difficult because you have to be accurate and make very quick decisions... but that doesn't change the fact you know where and when your receivers will be. all you have to read is the defense. you don't have to worry about your receiver being where he's supposed to be. in that sense it's easier for the QB post snap to say "o crap they're in this defense, so x and y will be covered, i better check it down or just take the sack" where as if eli is pressured and about to get sacked, he'll be thinking based on what he saw that his receiver will be in a specific area, but he might not be if the receiver isn't on the same page. it's much more difficult for the QB in that sense in my opinion.

like i said earlier the giants offense is much more dependent on streak n read plays than other offenses. some offenses might have 1 receiver running an option while everyone else is running a specific route. that's not the case with the giants. the receivers have much more freedom in this offense. they can change their route in, out, keep going deep or stop for a hitch. all based on the coverage as well as how the corner is playing them.

i agree but he also dinked it off a lot to tomlinson and then sproles who are 2 of the best YAC Rbs ever. i wasn't trying to say romo was better or anything by making that statement.

Eli and Ben are clutch but they're overrated. I'll take Peyton (if he can still throw a 40 yard down the seam) and Rivers over them any day. Both of those dudes play on teams with top 2 defenses!

They've both been starting the same amount of years.

Rivers 3,451 yards and 14 more TDs, only 6 more INTS. More playoff wins and better head-to-head. Plus, a better winning percentage with a 63-33 record compared to Romo's record of 47-30.

Romo only has a better QB Rating than Rivers, 96.4 to his 95.8. What does rating even mean though? Rivers and Aaron Rodgers are the only Quarterbacks to post a season of a 100+ QB rating in three consecutive seasons.

How many playoffs wins does Romo have again, one? [pic]