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TIME VS LEGEND (I want that ol' thing back)


 TIME VS LEGEND (I want that ol' thing back)
 02-15-2010, 02:38 PMaway - #21
st21
Originally Posted by akademiks
Dammit you stole my post.





P.S. Who made this [!] a mod again..?
kobes #1 d*ckrider ^^^

and who uses p.s on a forum post? loser.

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 02-15-2010, 02:42 PMonline - #22
Cambury
i wonder wat people who come in to hate say when they watch the video at the bottom...thats how Kobe ended the 02-03 season, his 7th year
 02-15-2010, 02:43 PMaway - #23
st21
Originally Posted by Cambury
i wonder wat people who come in to hate say when they watch the video at the bottom...thats how Kobe ended the 02-03 season, his 7th year
show me 1 post in this thread where someone is hating on kobe?

i'll wait...
 02-15-2010, 02:50 PMonline - #24
Cambury
Originally Posted by #21
show me 1 post in this thread where someone is hating on kobe?

i'll wait...
first u show me the post where i said someone in this thread was hating on kobe...
 02-15-2010, 02:52 PMaway - #25
st21
Originally Posted by Cambury
first u show me the post where i said someone in this thread was hating on kobe...
you said "i wonder what ppl that came in to hate said when they saw the video"

umm nobody came in with intentions of hating because there is no mention of kobe on the thread title at all.

so why do you[..]ume ppl came in to hate? that doesnt make any sense.
 02-15-2010, 02:56 PMonline - #26
Cambury
Originally Posted by #21
you said "i wonder what ppl that came in to hate said when they saw the video"

umm nobody came in with intentions of hating because there is no mention of kobe on the thread title at all.

so why do you[..]ume ppl came in to hate? that doesnt make any sense.
[pic] no thas not wat i said...

here is wat i said...

Originally Posted by Cambury View Post

i wonder wat people who come in to hate say when they watch the video at the bottom...thats how Kobe ended the 02-03 season, his 7th year

you clearly changed "come" to "came" for the purpose of makin it seem a certain way...i was talkin future tense becuz they will come as we all kno...only had a i said "came" would that indicate someone hated on Kobe
:owned:
 02-15-2010, 02:59 PMaway - #27
st21
Originally Posted by Cambury
[pic] no thas not wat i said...

here is wat i said...

Originally Posted by Cambury View Post

i wonder wat people who come in to hate say when they watch the video at the bottom...thats how Kobe ended the 02-03 season, his 7th year

you clearly changed "come" to "came" for the purpose of makin it seem a certain way...i was takin future tense becuz they will come as we all kno...only had a i said "came" would that indicate someone hated on Kobe
:owned:
again, nobody will come in with intentions of hating becuase there is no mention of kobe in the thread title. the word "came" or "come" doesn't change that at all.

Time vs Legend (i want that ol thing back) is such a random thread title ppl come in to see wtf you're talking about not with intentions of hating on kobe.

it's not hard to comprehend.
 02-15-2010, 03:01 PMonline - #28
Cambury
Originally Posted by #21
again, nobody will come in with intentions of hating becuase there is no mention of kobe in the thread title. the word "came" or "come" doesn't change that at all.

Time vs Legend (i want that ol thing back) is such a random thread title ppl come in to see wtf you're talking about not with intentions of hating on kobe.

it's not hard to comprehend.
"U Right" (Cam Voice)
 02-15-2010, 03:10 PMaway - #29
ronnie|A
props to cambury for putting some thought into his post [pic]
 02-15-2010, 03:32 PMonline - #30
TheT
Great read but Kobe and his fans give people a reason to hate him. So he's never going to get the respect that some people feel he deserves and some people feel as if he gets too much. Its probably going to be this way forever...
 02-15-2010, 03:47 PMonline - #31
Cambury
Originally Posted by TheT
Great read but Kobe and his fans give people a reason to hate him. So he's never going to get the respect that some people feel he deserves and some people feel as if he gets too much. Its probably going to be this way forever...
cool but its not about Kobe its really about the fan's and wat we must demand of the media and ourselves...the disrespect at the legends is one of the factors to why the game has become as watered down as it is
 02-15-2010, 06:07 PMonline - #32
TheT
Originally Posted by Cambury
cool but its not about Kobe its really about the fan's and wat we must demand of the media and ourselves...the disrespect at the legends is one of the factors to why the game has become as watered down as it is
I agree, it's crazy now how everything is "the best ever". This Super Bowl was "the best ever", that playoff series was "the best ever", That performance by so and so was "the best ever". I've heard that phrase thrown around so much now its ridiculous. Nothing can be great or amazing anymore without it being the best ever.
 02-15-2010, 06:16 PMonline - #33
philly337
here's the thing with ur post...what ur saying is true but then u go on to say it about kobe when kobe and his fans ARE THE MAIN ONES WHO DO THIS.U can't just say...oh this guy and this guys gets overrated respect and just ignore it about kobe because ur a fan of his.Kobe's fans are so delusional and it gets so sickening seein !! every day about this and that and how he's the goat when in reality he's just cracked the top 10 (if that..i can name 10 off top...7 of which are non debateblae and about 5-10 other that can be)
 02-15-2010, 06:25 PMonline - #34
philly337
Originally Posted by hood135

Maybe Jordan set the bar too high and made it impossible for there to be an heir to the thrown. Or maybe there is a heir but people just don't want it to be Kobe. They've doubted him since he was 17 years old when we first heard the comparisons and just won't let it register that he just might be that great.

but see here's the thing....u just said urself since he was 17 he was being compared to the goat.Had not even played one day of nba ball.It just shows how much they've tried to CREATE it rather then somebody actually doin it

and no he is not THAT GOOD.He is one of the greatest to ever do it but no way close to jordan.Jordan basically only played 11 season with the bulls (in 2 seasons only played 17 games) and had 6 titles,6 finals mvps,5 nba mvps,10 scoring titles,2 all time in steals,4th all time in scoring,10 time all nba first team,9 time all nba defensive first team,defensive player of the year,and the list goes on

kobe is in his 14th season and is not close in anything other then championships but people still say well if he does this,this and this he can catch him.If in the next 6 season he wins the scoring title every year,wins 2 more chips,get finals mvp in both,wins mvp 4 times,and wins dpoy once he'll be even in many things but still behind by 2 scoring titles and still wouldn't be close in steals.Kobe would have done all this,still came up short, and woulda took kobe 20 season in which jordan did all his in pretty much 11.On top of it kobe doin all that in the next 6 years won't happen

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 02-15-2010, 06:39 PMonline - #35
Cambury
Originally Posted by philly337
here's the thing with ur post...what ur saying is true but then u go on to say it about kobe when kobe and his fans ARE THE MAIN ONES WHO DO THIS.U can't just say...oh this guy and this guys gets overrated respect and just ignore it about kobe because ur a fan of his.Kobe's fans are so delusional and it gets so sickening seein !! every day about this and that and how he's the goat when in reality he's just cracked the top 10 (if that..i can name 10 off top...7 of which are non debateblae and about 5-10 other that can be)
i understand where ur comin from but to say he's "just" cracked top 10 players all time...do u hear wat ur saying..."just", like being top 50 is an honor in itself but for kobe to be top 10 all time says volumes....to say he is the greatest is arguable but the argument is warranted for a player who is top 50 all time...

this is my point...if u had more respect for the past players then u would realize that u saying kobe is maybe top 10 is a big deal becuz any body that is top 30 could b one of the greatest cuz there are that many legends
 02-15-2010, 06:40 PMaway - #36
Rico23
Originally Posted by philly337
but see here's the thing....u just said urself since he was 17 he was being compared to the goat.Had not even played one day of nba ball.It just shows how much they've tried to CREATE it rather then somebody actually doin it

and no he is not THAT GOOD.He is one of the greatest to ever do it but no way close to jordan.Jordan basically only played 11 season with the bulls (in 2 seasons only played 17 games) and had 6 titles,6 finals mvps,5 nba mvps,10 scoring titles,2 all time in steals,4th all time in scoring,10 time all nba first team,9 time all nba defensive first team,defensive player of the year,and the list goes on

kobe is in his 14th season and is not close in anything other then championships but people still say well if he does this,this and this he can catch him.If in the next 6 season he wins the scoring title every year,wins 2 more chips,get finals mvp in both,wins mvp 4 times,and wins dpoy once he'll be even in many things but still behind by 2 scoring titles and still wouldn't be close in steals.Kobe would have done all this,still came up short, and woulda took kobe 20 season in which jordan did all his in pretty much 11.On top of it kobe doin all that in the next 6 years won't happen
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 02-15-2010, 06:42 PMaway - #37
servesurite
nicca !! yo paragraph
 02-15-2010, 06:45 PMonline - #38
philly337
Originally Posted by Cambury
i understand where ur comin from but to say he's "just" cracked top 10 players all time...do u hear wat ur saying..."just", like being top 50 is an honor in itself but for kobe to be top 10 all time says volumes....to say he is the greatest is arguable but the argument is warranted for a player who is top 50 all time...

this is my point...if u had more respect for the past players then u would realize that u saying kobe is maybe top 10 is a big deal becuz any body that is top 30 could b one of the greatest cuz there are that many legends
no...see here's the things.Kobe being top 10-15 is great accomplishment.He is also the second best shooting guard ever which is great also.He is prolly the top player in the nba right now (although lebrons jumper is comin along and i think wade can be in talks).But anytime somebody says kobe ain't the goat or isn't even top 3 laker ever it's looked at as hate when it's just the truth.When u look at the player ranked 1-10 for each slot up on the ranking it is a HUGE LEAP.So in order for a guy to go up another notch he needs to do some great things to surpa#s the guy in front of him because all of those guys have huge awards and accomplishments.When guys wanna put him in the talks with jordan,russell,and magic it's just not that close

if people wanna come come on boxden and praise kobe for being top 10-15...i'm good with that.When they start saying he's better then the top 5-10 that's where i got an issue
 02-15-2010, 06:46 PMonline - #39
Cambury
Originally Posted by philly337
but see here's the thing....u just said urself since he was 17 he was being compared to the goat.Had not even played one day of nba ball.It just shows how much they've tried to CREATE it rather then somebody actually doin it

and no he is not THAT GOOD.He is one of the greatest to ever do it but no way close to jordan.Jordan basically only played 11 season with the bulls (in 2 seasons only played 17 games) and had 6 titles,6 finals mvps,5 nba mvps,10 scoring titles,2 all time in steals,4th all time in scoring,10 time all nba first team,9 time all nba defensive first team,defensive player of the year,and the list goes on

kobe is in his 14th season and is not close in anything other then championships but people still say well if he does this,this and this he can catch him.If in the next 6 season he wins the scoring title every year,wins 2 more chips,get finals mvp in both,wins mvp 4 times,and wins dpoy once he'll be even in many things but still behind by 2 scoring titles and still wouldn't be close in steals.Kobe would have done all this,still came up short, and woulda took kobe 20 season in which jordan did all his in pretty much 11.On top of it kobe doin all that in the next 6 years won't happen
there are also things that kobe has done and will do (if he can stay healthy) that Jordan has never done, accumulating statistics and accolades doesnt prove legend or enhance it, being great enough times is wat does it...comparisons are jus that and when they spoke of kobes competitiveness drive and work ethic yea they compared him to MJ and it was warranted!!!! jus like they said OJ Mayo has an offensive skill set that hasnt been seen since Kobe jus like they said Durant has a competitiveness that ranks up there with Kobe when it comes to those intangibles those are his likeness.

TO SAY KOBE WAS CREATED IS DISRESPECTFUL TO THE GAME AND MJ WHO HIMSELF ADMITS BEING OBSESSED WITH WATCHING KOBES CAREER BECUZ IT MIRRORS HIS OWN...KOBE WON THOSE CHAMPIONSHIPS, KOBE HIT THOSE SHOTS AND KOBE MADE THOSE PLAYS IT WASNT CAMERA TRICKS
 02-15-2010, 06:49 PMonline - #40
Cambury
Originally Posted by philly337
no...see here's the things.Kobe being top 10-15 is great accomplishment.He is also the second best shooting guard ever which is great also.He is prolly the top player in the nba right now (although lebrons jumper is comin along and i think wade can be in talks).But anytime somebody says kobe ain't the goat or isn't even top 3 laker ever it's looked at as hate when it's just the truth.When u look at the player ranked 1-10 for each slot up on the ranking it is a HUGE LEAP.So in order for a guy to go up another notch he needs to do some great things to surpa#s the guy in front of him because all of those guys have huge awards and accomplishments.When guys wanna put him in the talks with jordan,russell,and magic it's just not that close

if people wanna come come on boxden and praise kobe for being top 10-15...i'm good with that.When they start saying he's better then the top 5-10 that's where i got an issue
i disagre becuz if someone says that Chamberlain is the greatest how do you argue he isnt? if someone says Russell is the greatest how do u say he isnt? if someone says Magic is the greatest how do u say he isnt? if someone says Big O is the greatest how do u say he isnt? they all have carved their niche in the game...the beauty is that we can have this argument but the thing about the Kobe and Mike argument is that they are so close in skill that people become offended that Mike even has competition
 
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