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Smh It's already begun... Kolb wants to start or he wants out of Philly


 Smh It's already begun... Kolb wants to start or he wants out of Philly
 01-10-2011, 09:12 AMaway - #101
BogerMan
the problem is on defense. If they cant stop anyone then doesnt matter who's at QB. Rid of the defense except quentin mikell and trent cole
 01-10-2011, 09:13 AMaway - #102
smokeweed101.
Originally Posted by Cardeezy17
He's good for throwing picks
[pic]
 01-10-2011, 09:16 AMaway - #103
texasplayboy_23
^^21 TD's and 6 picks are TERRIBLE stats. Get his @ss out of Philly ASAP!!

[pic]...c'mon son.


Originally Posted by peeyump
lol dog.......put yourself in his shoes. You've been doing this since atleast junior high......you work your[..] off and you obviously did something right if you were selected in the 2nd round of the draft........you waited....you worked......you earned the job......but WAIT?!? Enter Mike Vick.......the project at QB that runs very fast.....That !! really is !!ed up lol.
[pic]nicca's a project? He isn't the same QB y'all had in Atlanta. If he improved that much after prison he's capable of improving his game after a full off season/training camp as the starter. I completely understand Kolb wants to start there or elsewhere, but he needs to compete for a starting job, not get it handed to him...especially when you look at the games he DID start.

But damn, people talkin like the Eagles didn't just win the division. You think Kolb would've?[pic]


Originally Posted by smokeweed101.
What has Vick proven? Kolb is younger and can be a QB, Vick is too selfish to change and is getting older.
You can't keep a straight face and tell me Kolb would've won 8 out of 10 games in the regular season like Vick did.

Vick may not have proven anything by not winning this past playoff game, but it would've been alot worse with Kolb behind that !!ty o-line. Green Bay D was bustin his @ss for 4 quarters.

Last edited by texasplayboy_23; 01-10-2011 at 09:19 AM..
 01-10-2011, 09:24 AMaway - #104
smokeweed101.
Originally Posted by texasplayboy_23
^^21 TD's and 6 picks are TERRIBLE stats. Get his @ss out of Philly ASAP!!

[pic]...c'mon son.




[pic]nicca's a project? He isn't the same QB y'all had in Atlanta. If he improved that much after prison he's capable of improving his game after a full off season/training camp as the starter. I completely understand Kolb wants to start there or elsewhere, but he needs to compete for a starting job, not get it handed to him...especially when you look at the games he DID start.

But damn, people talkin like the Eagles didn't just win the division. You think Kolb would've?[pic]




You can't keep a straight face and tell me Kolb would've won 8 out of 10 games in the regular season like Vick did.

Vick may not have proven anything by not winning this past playoff game, but it would've been alot worse with Kolb behind that !!ty o-line. Green Bay D was bustin his @ss for 4 quarters.
I mean its football, you can't prove the contrary. A guy like Kitna who most would say sucks led a !!ty Bengals team (that gave up more points and rushed for less yards than this Eagles team) to 8 wins. You throw the ball !! happens, Vick isn't a god, he isn't the only guy that can go 10-6 in a season. Kolb still had the most impressive win over the 13-3 Falcons to add to that 10-6 record.

You guys keep acting like Vick is a god, he will only get worse, end of discussion.
 01-10-2011, 09:30 AMaway - #105
Cardeezy17
Originally Posted by smokeweed101.
I mean its football, you can't prove the contrary. A guy like Kitna who most would say sucks led a !!ty Bengals team (that gave up more points and rushed for less yards than this Eagles team) to 8 wins. You throw the ball !! happens, Vick isn't a god, he isn't the only guy that can go 10-6 in a season. Kolb still had the most impressive win over the 13-3 Falcons to add to that 10-6 record.

You guys keep acting like Vick is a god, he will only get worse, end of discussion.
Eagles would have been 8-8 BEST this year if Kolb played the entire season. Vick is better than Kolb, end of discussion.
 01-10-2011, 09:39 AMaway - #106
texasplayboy_23
Originally Posted by smokeweed101.
I mean its football, you can't prove the contrary. A guy like Kitna who most would say sucks led a !!ty Bengals team (that gave up more points and rushed for less yards than this Eagles team) to 8 wins. You throw the ball !! happens, Vick isn't a god, he isn't the only guy that can go 10-6 in a season. Kolb still had the most impressive win over the 13-3 Falcons to add to that 10-6 record.

You guys keep acting like Vick is a god, he will only get worse, end of discussion.
I clearly just talked about him being capable of improving in the off season..."gods" don't improve.[pic] And 1 good win against the 4-1 Falcons doesn't trump 3 bad losses to the Skins, Titans and Cowboys...neither of which are playoff teams.

As far as Kitna and the Bengals...[pic]he won 8 of 16 games homie, not 8 of 10.
 01-10-2011, 10:29 AMaway - #107
smokeweed101.
Originally Posted by Cardeezy17
Vick is better than Kolb, end of discussion.
Vick overachieved for his best season, he will never top it. Kolb will improve hopefully on a better franchise and break Vick's heart.
 01-10-2011, 10:36 AMonline - #108
HeyCobra
Originally Posted by texasplayboy_23
I clearly just talked about him being capable of improving in the off season..."gods" don't improve.[pic] And 1 good win against the 4-1 Falcons doesn't trump 3 bad losses to the Skins, Titans and Cowboys...neither of which are playoff teams.

As far as Kitna and the Bengals...[pic]he won 8 of 16 games homie, not 8 of 10.
Skins vick got hurt early and he took over. he gets a pass just like people give vick a pass when he took over for Green bay week 1.

Titans was on the D getting lit up by britt, not saying kolb was balling out there, but our D got embarassed .

and cowboys hes starting WR was chad hall. and they bearly lost.
 01-10-2011, 10:47 AMaway - #109
texasplayboy_23
Originally Posted by smokeweed101.
Vick overachieved for his best season, he will never top it. Kolb will improve hopefully on a better franchise and break Vick's heart.
That's all opinion. Just like I think Vick gives them the best chance to win IMO.

Originally Posted by HeyCobra
Skins vick got hurt early and he took over. he gets a pass just like people give vick a pass when he took over for Green bay week 1.

Titans was on the D getting lit up by britt, not saying kolb was balling out there, but our D got embarassed .

and cowboys hes starting WR was chad hall. and they bearly lost.
Exactly, Vick got hurt in the 1st quarter against the Skins, so Kolb had more than enough time to pull off a win. Your D...it hasn't help you guys all season, but you were still doing great on offense to overcome that.

And week 17, yeah you barely lost but dude threw 3 interceptions.[pic]
 01-10-2011, 10:55 AMaway - #110
StateProperty88
Originally Posted by texasplayboy_23
That's all opinion. Just like I think Vick gives them the best chance to win IMO.



Exactly, Vick got hurt in the 1st quarter against the Skins, so Kolb had more than enough time to pull off a win. Your D...it hasn't help you guys all season, but you were still doing great on offense to overcome that.

And week 17, yeah you barely lost but dude threw 3 interceptions.[pic]
did you see our o-line yesterday? and that was our starters, kolb was playing what the reserves. did he play good? no...but he had no help. they didnt put him in a position to succeed so what do you expect?
 01-10-2011, 10:59 AMaway - #111
texasplayboy_23
Originally Posted by StateProperty88
did you see our o-line yesterday? and that was our starters, kolb was playing what the reserves. did he play good? no...but he had no help. they didnt put him in a position to succeed so what do you expect?
Damn it...do y'all want Kolb there or not? Because the beginning of the season you're ridin with him. Then, he gets hurt and Vick comes in and balls the !! out. Now I'm makin an argument about why Vick should remain the starter and Kolb shouldn't but y'all keep defending him as if you want him to stay...flip-floppin @sses.[pic]

EDIT: yes I saw the o-line, it's terrible. Not even someone as mobile as Vick was safe.

Last edited by texasplayboy_23; 01-10-2011 at 11:02 AM..
 01-10-2011, 11:07 AMaway - #112
StateProperty88
Originally Posted by texasplayboy_23
Damn it...do y'all want Kolb there or not? Because the beginning of the season you're ridin with him. Then, he gets hurt and Vick comes in and balls the !! out. Mow I makin an argument about why Vick should remain the starter and Kolb shouldn't but y'all keep defending him as if you want him to stay...flip-floppin @sses.[pic]

EDIT: yes I saw the o-line, it's terrible. Not even someone as mobile as Vick was safe.
[pic] i havent flip flopped on my stance at all in this situation. does vick give us a better chance to win, yes he does...but fact of the matter is the jury is still out on how good kolb can be (all this that ive said thus far and will say in this post is things i said several times on here and hasnt changed btw). you guys are expecting him to be something that he isnt yet or for that matter may never become

i say we keep kolb regardless of if we resign vick or not. vick gets hurt, its been like that since his days as a falcon and i wouldnt mind having kolb back him up especially since he will come for cheap next year (around 2 million) and i dont think we would get that much value for him

i wouldnt be upset if we traded him though because i think he deserves a fair shot as oppose to getting written off after the first game of the season. i think he can play but he just needs to make better decisions, but thats something he's going to have to figure out and the only way you can do that is by playing
 01-10-2011, 11:12 AMaway - #113
Javon23
send is[..] to Washington
 01-10-2011, 11:12 AMaway - #114
texasplayboy_23
Originally Posted by StateProperty88
[pic] i havent flip flopped on my stance at all in this situation. does vick give us a better chance to win, yes he does...but fact of the matter is the jury is still out on how good kolb can be (all this that ive said thus far and will say in this post is things i said several times on here and hasnt changed btw). you guys are expecting him to be something that he isnt yet or for that matter may never become

i say we keep kolb regardless of if we resign vick or not. vick gets hurt, its been like that since his days as a falcon and i wouldnt mind having kolb back him up especially since he will come for cheap next year (around 2 million) and i dont think we would get that much value for him

i wouldnt be upset if we traded him though because i think he deserves a fair shot as oppose to getting written off after the first game of the season. i think he can play but he just needs to make better decisions, but thats something he's going to have to figure out and the only way you can do that is by playing
I hear you, and keeping both would be the best/ideal situation...but Kolb doesn't want to stay if he doesn't get the starting job back.

Soooo, you gotta choose.[pic] The potential starter you haven't seen enough from, or the playmaker who still has a little more improving to do?
 01-10-2011, 11:17 AMaway - #115
StateProperty88
Originally Posted by texasplayboy_23
I hear you, and keeping both would be the best/ideal situation...but Kolb doesn't want to stay if he doesn't get the starting job back.

Soooo, you gotta choose.[pic] The potential starter you haven't seen enough from, or the playmaker who still has a little more improving to do?
kolb can want whatever he want...he's still under contract next year so it up to us do decide whether or not we want to keep him. however, with that being said i still think and would like to lock up mike for a few more years
 01-10-2011, 11:24 AMaway - #116
texasplayboy_23
Originally Posted by StateProperty88
kolb can want whatever he want...he's still under contract next year so it up to us do decide whether or not we want to keep him. however, with that being said i still think and would like to lock up mike for a few more years
[pic]

I should be wantin his @ss out of the division as a Cowboys fan[pic], but I dislike the Eagles the least. Plus, I'm a fan of the sport 1st...if he were to ever become a Giant tho, I'd turn on that nicca in a second.[pic]
 01-10-2011, 11:28 AMaway - #117
JimDinO77
Originally Posted by TheMagicMan
The eagles would be stupid to let go of Kolb...Mike Vick at any moment can be out for the season based on the way he plays...

Give Vick the franchise tag, and let Kolb chill on the bench for 1 more year...they dont have to make this decision until 2012...
kolb aint tryna hear that !!.....let em go, get those 2 second round picks and get a defensive threat or another deep threat
 01-10-2011, 11:43 AMaway - #118
PushaT5050
Trade That Man!!!!!!!
 01-10-2011, 11:47 AMaway - #119
GoldBluded
Better trade him before he gets worse in his career he's 11td for 14int n 9 fumbles 73.2 Passer Rating not including the bad decisions and check downs that he always does. He could probably shine somewhere else with a good O-Line n team kinda like trent dilfer. His stats are not that bad but not worth anything really try to get a first rounder n we good.
 01-10-2011, 11:56 AMonline - #120
ClevelandRay
DAMMIT! If the Browns get Morninwig then I have this feeling he'll be in Cleveland. Tom Heckert is already here, Morningwig is a Holgren guy, they already showed intrest at the start of the season...I'd rather have another coach and at this point keep McCoy for them moment
 
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