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Saints Suspensions LIFTED??


 Saints Suspensions LIFTED??
 09-07-2012, 01:59 PMonline - #41
Moony Jackson
Bomani Jones ‏@bomani_jones

and shoutout to everyone who[..]umed the nfl HAD to be telling the truth, even after they released evidence that was obvious b.s.
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 09-07-2012, 01:59 PMaway - #42
Figueroa
[pic] M. Bison "Yes Yes!" Widescreen HD reupload - YouTube
 09-07-2012, 02:00 PMaway - #43
Figueroa
Originally Posted by Tecnique
Good

No excuses when we get swept [pic]
fixed
 09-07-2012, 02:01 PMaway - #44
StateProperty88
Originally Posted by Tecnique
Good

No excuses when we sweep [pic]
dem fighting words [pic]
 09-07-2012, 02:02 PMaway - #45
SDC17
Saints won.

Last edited by SDC17; 09-07-2012 at 02:15 PM..
 09-07-2012, 02:02 PMaway - #46
ghettofied
Originally Posted by hockeythug
Goodell can still overturn it again. Just has to prove there was intent to injure.
He sure can, the fact they want to fight this head to head. Goodell will probably stick to his guns, call in the FBI agents and release the evidence.
 09-07-2012, 02:04 PMaway - #47
iggyemu
This nicca Vilma said "Victory is mine" - In his Stewie voice. NFL taking a big L here. I guess Goodell !!ed with the wrong nicca.
 09-07-2012, 02:10 PMaway - #48
Tecnique
Originally Posted by Macaroni&steeZ
fixed
We'll see [pic]
 09-07-2012, 02:13 PMaway - #49
iggyemu
Originally Posted by hockeythug
Goodell can still overturn it again. Just has to prove there was intent to injure.
That's why we are here now. He can't prove it. He can only prove that there was a pay for performance program not a pay for injure one.
 09-07-2012, 02:14 PMonline - #50
ReggieA
[pic] Goodell has to be salty as hell at this [pic]
 09-07-2012, 02:15 PMaway - #51
SDC17
Coaches and GM's are not legislated by the CBA, therefore their suspensions will still be in effect.
 09-07-2012, 02:15 PMaway - #52
does any 1 care
Originally Posted by hockeythug
Goodell can still overturn it again. Just has to prove there was intent to injure.
He can't prove it
 09-07-2012, 02:16 PMaway - #53
Fras1788
Release the !!ing evidence Goodell you little !!ing !!. Release it. YOU CAN'T CAUSE YOU HAVE NONE. GREGG WILLIAMS TALKING IS NOT EVIDENCE YOU !!ING!!SUCKER. YOU CANNOT PROVE !!.

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 09-07-2012, 02:16 PMaway - #54
StateProperty88
Originally Posted by iggyemu
That's why we are here now. He can't prove it. He can only prove that there was a pay for performance program not a pay for injure one.
same thing i was thinking. if they have the evidence, then they presented it during this trial, they wouldnt wait. i dont even see how they could overturn this. maybe appeal it, but not overturn
 09-07-2012, 02:17 PMaway - #55
regularjoe
Bounty suspensions will now go back to the Commissioner

Posted by Mike Florio on September 7, 2012, 4:07 PM EDT

The players suspended by Commissioner Roger Goodell for involvement in the Saints bounty suspension rightfully have claimed victory.

For now.

Inspection of the four-page summary decision signed by Richard J. Howell on behalf of a unanimous three-person panel reveals that the case will now go back to Goodell. The panel decided that, based on the various overlapping jurisdictions of Goodell and the “System Arbitrator” and others under the labor deal, it’s unclear that the suspensions imposed by Goodell fall within his jurisdiction, and not the jurisdiction of the “System Arbitrator.”

(Confused yet? So are we.)

Actually, it’s not that complicated. The CBA gives different people different responsibility for sorting out different types of disputes. Here, the arbitration panel decided it’s not entirely clear whether Goodell imposed the suspensions under his authority to prevent conduct detrimental to the game or whether he infringed on the exclusive power of the “System Arbitrator” to penalize violations of the salary cap, arising from the fact that money potentially changed hands in connection with the pay-for-performance/bounty program.

“While we agree, then, that the Commissioner had jurisdiction to discipline the Players in this case, we are uncertain that the discipline handed down was attributable, in any part, to that aspect of the Program which lies within the exclusive jurisdiction of the System Arbitrator,” Howell writes. “While we could speculate, it is not clear from the record before us whether had the distinction we draw in mind at the time he disciplined the players.”

It all could, in time, end up in the same place. For now, however, the panel has opted to be careful. “In light of the serious nature of the penalties imposed,” Howell writes, “we believe caution is appropriate.”

Though the NFL eventually may win the war, losing this battle will have an enormous P.R. impact. People will view the Commissioner’s authority as being less than what it may be, and internally the blame will fall on the lawyers who failed to properly draw the lines when drawing up the penalties.
 09-07-2012, 02:22 PMaway - #56
DPGUNIT
Bet goddell feels like !!
 09-07-2012, 02:29 PMonline - #57
Infamous2o1x
Originally Posted by KeepinItTrill
[pic] damn that's surprising

wait does this mean Sean Payton's suspension is lifted too?
no goodell couldnt suspend both they said. so coach is still suspended for now. only way players get suspended is if there is evidence shown
 09-07-2012, 02:30 PMonline - #58
Akira Son Bio
Fujita and Haden playing on Sunday .......


[pic]!!!!!!!!!
 09-07-2012, 02:31 PMaway - #59
iggyemu
Originally Posted by regularjoe
Bounty suspensions will now go back to the Commissioner

Posted by Mike Florio on September 7, 2012, 4:07 PM EDT

The players suspended by Commissioner Roger Goodell for involvement in the Saints bounty suspension rightfully have claimed victory.

For now.

Inspection of the four-page summary decision signed by Richard J. Howell on behalf of a unanimous three-person panel reveals that the case will now go back to Goodell. The panel decided that, based on the various overlapping jurisdictions of Goodell and the “System Arbitrator” and others under the labor deal, it’s unclear that the suspensions imposed by Goodell fall within his jurisdiction, and not the jurisdiction of the “System Arbitrator.”

(Confused yet? So are we.)

Actually, it’s not that complicated. The CBA gives different people different responsibility for sorting out different types of disputes. Here, the arbitration panel decided it’s not entirely clear whether Goodell imposed the suspensions under his authority to prevent conduct detrimental to the game or whether he infringed on the exclusive power of the “System Arbitrator” to penalize violations of the salary cap, arising from the fact that money potentially changed hands in connection with the pay-for-performance/bounty program.

“While we agree, then, that the Commissioner had jurisdiction to discipline the Players in this case, we are uncertain that the discipline handed down was attributable, in any part, to that aspect of the Program which lies within the exclusive jurisdiction of the System Arbitrator,” Howell writes. “While we could speculate, it is not clear from the record before us whether had the distinction we draw in mind at the time he disciplined the players.”

It all could, in time, end up in the same place. For now, however, the panel has opted to be careful. “In light of the serious nature of the penalties imposed,” Howell writes, “we believe caution is appropriate.”

Though the NFL eventually may win the war, losing this battle will have an enormous P.R. impact. People will view the Commissioner’s authority as being less than what it may be, and internally the blame will fall on the lawyers who failed to properly draw the lines when drawing up the penalties.
So long story short, the panel ruled that Goodell overstepped his boundaries in suspending the players for that amount of games?
 09-07-2012, 02:31 PMaway - #60
dre03
Originally Posted by iggyemu
That's why we are here now. He can't prove it. He can only prove that there was a pay for performance program not a pay for injure one.
Nah i don't think that's accurate... I read the players suspension was overturned because it was determined that Goddell improperly used his power during the punishments... I don't think it had anything to do with evidence... I think the evidence is there it's just Goddell has to properly go through the channels to suspend the players for the evidence that was found...

I haven't read anywhere that the decision was overturned due to lack of evidence... I think they will eventually be suspended but Goddell does not have the jurisdiction to perform the bans he placed on those players due to the CBA
 
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