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Race To The MVP Ladder (Makes You Think)


 Race To The MVP Ladder (Makes You Think)
topic by GrownmanJ - 03-08-2013, 11:37 AM - Boxden > BX SportsCenter


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Lakers' Improvment Helps Bryant's Case

March 8 -- Whenever Kobe Bryant's Hall of Fame career ends, there will be a glaring smudge on his long list of accomplishments.

Bryant has just one MVP trophy on a resume that includes five championship rings, two Finals MVPs, four All-Star Game MVPs, 14 All-NBA selections (10 first team nods), 12 All-Defensive team selections (nine of those first team) and a host of other career superlatives.

That lone MVP trophy (from 2008) will stick out for a number of reasons. He has a teammate, Steve Nash, who can boast of having won more MVP hardware than he has.

Was Bryant penalized for being a brilliant player who happened to play on a dominant Lakers team early in his career, when he was viewed as the second fiddle to Shaquille O'Neal? Or was he simply caught in a political process that didn't favor a player whose relationship with voters has always been tenuous at best?

"I don't have a good answer for why, but I know it's a disgrace," said one Eastern Conference executive who has maintained his stance that Bryant was the best player in the league for a stretch, before and after he won his lone MVP, without being honored properly.

"I'm not saying he's the best right now. I think LeBron [James] has distinguished himself from the rest of the pack now and he has the championship to go with it. But for Kobe to have just one ... it makes no sense."

Bryant's dramatic rise this week on the Kia Race to the MVP Ladder is directly related to how he has performed recently. Sure, the Lakers are still slogging through their own mess in an effort to join the Western Conference playoff mix. But there is no denying the individual brilliance Bryant has displayed in his efforts to lift the Lakers out of their abyss.

His critics will point out that the Lakers still haven't had a breakthrough win against any of the league's truly elite teams. And that's true. What shouldn't be overlooked, however, is the fact that his one-man wrecking crew routine has been in full effect in losses to the Denver Nuggets and Oklahoma City Thunder just as it has in wins against the Minnesota Timberwolves, Atlanta Hawks and New Orleans Hornets.

In that comeback win over the Hornets, Bryant became the second-oldest player in NBA history (Larry Bird remains the oldest ... for now) to record a 40-point, 10-assist game. And he did this the night after he dropped 30 points in a tough loss to the Oklahoma City Thunder. Bryant's work in that win over the Hornets (42 points, 12 a$sists and seven rebounds) in particular seems to have energized his teammate in ways that could pay off in a major way down the stretch.

"This game brought us closer together as a team," teammate Dwight Howard said. "This is what it takes when you're playing for the playoffs and then when you're in the playoffs, f!ghting through games like this and it just shows our character. We had a tough one last night, we started out on a bad note tonight, but instead of giving up, we kept f!ghting until the end."

Bryant has vowed to lead these Lakers to the playoffs and promised that they'll make some noise when they get there. If it happens, given what we've seen of these Lakers from the start of training camp, few players could make a stronger case for MVP honors.

The Next Five: Deron Williams, Brooklyn Nets; Joakim Noah, Chicago Bulls; Steph Curry, Golden State Warriors; Zach Randolph, Memphis Grizzlies; Monta Ellis, Milwaukee Bucks

Falling out: Tony Parker (due to injury), San Antonio Spurs

Got something to say about this week's Race to the MVP Ladder? Give us a shout!
Current Rankings
1 LeBron James
2 Kobe Bryant
3 Kevin Durant
4 Chris Paul
5 Carmelo Anthony
6 Dwyane Wade
7 Russell Westbrook
8 Paul George
9 Ty Lawson
10 James Harden


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100 comments for "Race To The MVP Ladder (Makes You Think)"


 03-08-2013, 11:43 AMaway - #2
Main Event 28 heat pts28

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lol...

the #### outta here
 03-08-2013, 11:44 AMaway - #3
Young Fab 

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If this ni##a wins MVP the award itself needs to be done with
 03-08-2013, 11:45 AMaway - #4
Hovi Bryant 234 heat pts234

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Kobe Bryant is overrated. Simply put.

He's a legend. Hall of Famer. Consistent scorer. Champion.

But in terms of being the best pure talent that a team cannot win games without?



Win shares since 85. Kobe doesn't make the list once. He's usually top 10 each season, but never the top player.

We're moving towards an era of Basketball where we can analyze the game beyond what we see what is on the court. We can see that Kobe scores 30 points, but how efficient was he?
 03-08-2013, 11:50 AMaway - #5
tdc320 

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Lebron
Durant
Cp3
T. Parker
Melo
 03-08-2013, 11:54 AMaway - #6
hood135 2 heat pts

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The Lakers have probably played 5 games at full strength this season and he's almost single handedly held that #### together...yet yall still hate?

Kobe been putting work in since 96' and he's showing no signs of slowing down. Respect is due from you clowns.
 03-08-2013, 11:58 AMaway - #7
hood135 2 heat pts

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Originally Posted by Hovi Bryant
Kobe Bryant is overrated. Simply put.

He's a legend. Hall of Famer. Consistent scorer. Champion.

But in terms of being the best pure talent that a team cannot win games without?



Win shares since 85. Kobe doesn't make the list once. He's usually top 10 each season, but never the top player.

We're moving towards an era of Basketball where we can analyze the game beyond what we see what is on the court. We can see that Kobe scores 30 points, but how efficient was he?
Enough said you stupid mother####er. What else is there to prove???
 03-08-2013, 11:59 AMaway - #8
yaleRULES 11 heat pts11

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No tony parker are they serious.. i know he's gonna miss most of the regular season but come the #### on lol
 03-08-2013, 11:59 AMaway - #9
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if the Spurs end up with the best regular season record T. Parker should get it but he won't. There is only 2 players that the nba has been reduced down to thanks to espn, the media etc.. And thats Lebron and Kobe, Kobe shouldn't even be mentioned Lebron def should so should Westbrook. Westbrook murd3red Kobe and the Lakers aren't good

Lebron, Parker, Westbrook, KD
 03-08-2013, 12:00 PMaway - #10
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they done gave the man one lifetime acheivement award mvp over paul because he didn't have one..now they feel bad he has one and want to give him a second and his team is on the brink of not being in the playoffs
 03-08-2013, 12:01 PMaway - #11
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Originally Posted by yaleRULES
No tony parker are they serious.. i know he's gonna miss most of the regular season but come the #### on lol
holy #### i missed that

and we see what type of thought process toby stans have (the guy who wrote this is obviously one)
 03-08-2013, 12:03 PMaway - #12
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Originally Posted by Mullany S
how can you be an mvp candidate when you team is struggling to make the playoffs?
1.lebron
2.westbrook
3.chris paul
4.durant
5.paul george
6.wade
7.carmelo
8.ty lawson
9.harden
10.tony parker
you retarded or what??? seriously, one player no matter how good cannot make a team..... Most Valuable Player, not best player on team with best record.. dumbass nerds who dont know #### about ####!!! take c#ck out of a$s and find ####ing tongue. WILT was robbed many times of MVP even though he has a bunch, RUSSEL was never even close to WILT and bc his team was better he got MVP awards, so you are not alone, the retard journalists stand by your side you challenged a$sclown...]

MVP is Clear
1.BRON
2.DURANT
3.KOBE
honorable mention - Harden

no one else matters
 03-08-2013, 12:03 PMaway - #13
Hovi Bryant 234 heat pts234

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Originally Posted by hood135
Enough said you stupid mother####er. What else is there to prove???
Prove that he can score efficiently? Shoot 40% from three? 50% overall? If not, have more a$sists, rebounds, and steals? All while winning games?

That's the difference between a superstar and a perennial MVP winner. Stupid mother####er.
 03-08-2013, 12:04 PMaway - #14
hood135 2 heat pts

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Originally Posted by Mullany S
what respect at all? we should give him props for taking a struggling team to the 8th play-off position in the west. something that players like lebron james,baron davis,kelvin garnet, paul pierce,derick rose have done repeatedly. the problem is most of you guys give kobe praise for something he is supposed to do. despite injuries if he was so great, if he was the best player in the nba then injuries shouldnt be an excuse because he is the leader of the team right? so when the team wins kobe gets praised but when they lose you blame it on injurioes and his team mates?

Respect for being destroying the league for damn near 2 decades.

I don't have time for your baseless generalizations. You've never seen me post excuses for Kobe and I give credit where credit is due. What the man is doing is unbelievable with the miles that he has on his body. That in itself should be enough.
 03-08-2013, 12:08 PMaway - #15
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I wish ni##as would get the entire fukc outta here with this Paul George shyt

He's improved but he's nowhere near the Lebron, D-Wade, Kobe, Durant, CP3 class.
 03-08-2013, 12:09 PMaway - #16
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Here's what a real MVP race would look like this season.

Players who are literally winning "X" amount of games for their teams night in and out.
 03-08-2013, 12:10 PMaway - #17
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Originally Posted by Mullany S
what respect at all? we should give him props for taking a struggling team to the 8th play-off position in the west. something that players like lebron james,baron davis,kelvin garnet, paul pierce,derick rose have done repeatedly. the problem is most of you guys give kobe praise for something he is supposed to do. despite injuries if he was so great, if he was the best player in the nba then injuries shouldnt be an excuse because he is the leader of the team right? so when the team wins kobe gets praised but when they lose you blame it on injurioes and his team mates?

Mullany you are a clown, stick to the books nerd sports are not your thing... you list all them players with other players to help, Rose was never alone the bulls have been stacked for yrs, paul pierce in the east when the east was weak as #### the 10th in the west was 4th in the east back then, baron davis? kidding? KG had starbary, wally Z, a peeler was nice for a while.... SIT DOWN SON
 03-08-2013, 12:11 PMaway - #18
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how is Tony Parker an MVP when Spurs win without him anyway?
 03-08-2013, 12:12 PMaway - #19
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How can you be the MVP of the league when you're still f!ghting to make the playoffs?

Originally Posted by Hovi Bryant
Kobe Bryant is overrated. Simply put.

He's a legend. Hall of Famer. Consistent scorer. Champion.

But in terms of being the best pure talent that a team cannot win games without?



Win shares since 85. Kobe doesn't make the list once. He's usually top 10 each season, but never the top player.

We're moving towards an era of Basketball where we can analyze the game beyond what we see what is on the court. We can see that Kobe scores 30 points, but how efficient was he?
Btw Durant isn't leading anymore, here's the updated version:

Win Shares
1. LeBron James-MIA 14.8
2. Kevin Durant-OKC 14.7
3. James Harden-HOU 10.2
4. Chris Paul-LAC 10.1
5. Blake Griffin-LAC 9.1
6. Tony Parker-SAS 9.0
7. Tyson Chandler-NYK 8.9
8. Kobe Bryant-LAL 8.8
9. Russell Westbrook-OKC 8.7
10. Marc Gasol-MEM 8.6
11. David West-IND 7.9
12. Dwyane Wade-MIA 7.8
13. George Hill-IND 7.7
14. Stephen Curry-GSW 7.4
15. Al Horford-ATL 7.2
16. Paul George-IND 7.2
17. Tiago Splitter-SAS 6.9
18. David Lee-GSW 6.8
19. Serge Ibaka-OKC 6.8
20. Carmelo Anthony-NYK
 03-08-2013, 12:13 PMonline - #20
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