Phoenix Suns Sign Goran Dragic 4 years $34 millie |
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| 07-05-2012, 12:39 AM | away - #41 |
| Those records arent impressive to me. He was a second year player its not like he was rookie starting on day one doing that. Also during that stretch they were playing scrubs so it was a good opportunity for him. Like ol buddy said look at the game logs from march on when dragic actually got an opportunity to play. But anyways this isnt baseball where you look at stats to define a player. Stats have always been inflated in a d'antonio system this is fact. | |
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| 07-05-2012, 12:43 AM | away - #42 |
| Dragic >>>>>>> Lin the turnover machine Once lowry got that gastroenteritis and dragic got starters minutes he was BEASTING and had a bum ankle for the last half of his starts. Lin was overrated and got shut down in his biggest test against the heat (a good defense team unlike the others he faced). Hell I'd keep lowry over lin. He and martin have problems with the coach but with dragic gone you need lowry or a decent replacement...a straight up lin for lowry swap is a loss for the rockets | |
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| 07-05-2012, 01:32 AM | away - #43 |
| Lin > Dragic? No way. I love what Lin did but he still needs to clean up his game, particularly ball security. I still can't forget how he could barely bring the ball across half court against Miami. I enjoyed watching Lin and really hope he can try to pick up where he left off last year with NY, but to say he's better than Goran? Goran had a good month and a half run once Lowry went down and he was putting up baby CP3 numbers. Reading other basketball forums during the season it seemed to be general concensus that Dragic > Lin [pic] Edit: This is when it was being discussed after Lin went down, who somebody would rather have as their starting PG for next season. | |
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| 07-05-2012, 02:04 AM | away - #44 |
| If stats defined players then being a GM is the easiest job in the world. You have to buy into the system in order to see results. Melo never did that and Jeremy did. I'm not hating on Lin just don't put to much stock in stats to determine whose a better player. you saying stats prove your point is ridiculous especially on a player that has played 35 games. lin is a smart player that can direct an offense but hes careless with the ball also is a horrible defender Last edited by CrapShoota; 07-05-2012 at 02:33 AM.. | |
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| 07-05-2012, 03:34 AM | away - #45 |
| Damn, I wanted to keep him... but that price tag is a bit much. | |
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| 07-05-2012, 04:18 AM | away - #46 |
| I didnt say stats didnt matter I just dont put much stock into it because it doesnt tell the whole story. It doesnt take into account team structure, game plan and other circumstances. I guess it's not the stats I have a problem with rather than the way they are interpreted. I dont need to look at a stat sheet to show me whose a better player. Judging how good certain players are at making plays and passing has to be judged by the nak3d eye rather than stats. Observation of basketball is actually watching it and understanding what players are doing to help/impact to win the games. A player can have a great rebounding game sometimes just by being in the right spots, not from great hustle. A player might not get a bunch of rebounds, but he is hustling so much and doing so many of the little things that it results in rebounds for the team. Player can get 10 rebounds that looks like a good line when really they were just grabbing defensive rebounds that didn't amount to anything special. While another person could grab five rebounds which doesn't look as good, yet they were all offensive rebounds. Defense is important to me, gary payton played in george karl run n gun and he played defense. You can never show me how good a player is on defense by showing rebounds,blocks and steals there's no way i'm falling for it. Defensive specialists don't get their credit since the only basic defensive stats tracked are steals and blocks. Some players just cant play D I dont care what the coach is asking out of you. The coach can scheme up a team defense that can help cover some of your flaws. Last edited by CrapShoota; 07-05-2012 at 04:25 AM.. | |
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| 07-05-2012, 04:33 AM | away - #47 |
| why they draft marshall then [pic] damn crapshoota making niccas his son up in here [pic] | |
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| 07-05-2012, 05:57 AM | away - #48 |
| Thats baby Nash right there. Good, I can still rock with the Suns when 2K13 drops. | |
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| 07-05-2012, 06:26 AM | away - #49 |
| is there something to be said that the suns didnt even want nash back and moved on to some younger player for the same price at point guard . maybe they are right maybe they wrong guess we will see [pic] | |
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| 07-05-2012, 06:48 AM | away - #50 | |
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| 07-05-2012, 08:36 AM | away - #51 | |
Has Dragic ever avg even 18 let alone 20 ppg in his career wtf are u dudes hyped about[pic][pic] Sike na but dude has skills I have seen him play question is can he take it to that next level he been in the league 4yrs he def has the possibility of being an 18ppg atleast in his first breakout yr but LETS SEE Last edited by JaYYo; 07-05-2012 at 08:40 AM.. | ||
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| 07-05-2012, 09:07 AM | away - #52 | |
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| 07-05-2012, 09:31 AM | away - #53 | |
Chris paul Jennings Parker Lawson wall Etc.. in fact the only pg's to average more than 20 ppg is Westbrook and Williams you stupid. Dragic for under 10 mil is a steal.. #blazerslost | ||
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| 07-05-2012, 09:34 AM | away - #54 |
| ESPN is now saying the deal is 4 years 30 mill if so thats a steal | |
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| 07-05-2012, 09:38 AM | away - #55 |
| major steal, they must have convinced dragic on some good things.. #sunswon | |
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| 07-05-2012, 10:32 AM | away - #56 | ||
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| 07-05-2012, 12:07 PM | away - #57 |
| I guess DeMarcus cousins is a better defender/hustler and has more heart than joakim noah, tyson chandler, kevin garnett and josh smith going by your logic. Bruce bowen with raw ability and naturally good are you serious? He did 2 things hit the occasional 3 and lock down on D he was the definition of hard work and heart. Rebounding has very little if any importance on a defender ability thats crazy. A.I would lead the league in steals and he never made NBA first team defense, he got them by gambling and getting into passing lanes that doesnt make you a good defender. This is because when a player goes for a lot steals there is gonna be some steals he doesnt get and thus leaves his teammates vulnerable and the opponent usually scores. Where is the stat for Steals attempted? GP called the glove bc he would man up and rip your !! from under you along with artest. Also what stat shows that you created a turnover? Steals just show you got a turnover that doesnt mean you created it. You can pressure the ball and force a player into a bad pass, you can lead a player into a double team to pick up his dribble, charges arent shown in box score, when player takes a bad shot bc of good defense isnt in the stat sheet. You can block a shot and the team still gets the ball and scores or block shot out of bounds and team retains possession. Last edited by CrapShoota; 07-05-2012 at 12:15 PM.. | |
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| 07-05-2012, 01:11 PM | away - #58 |
| he loves PHX, he clearly didnt like the fact he got traded in the first place, it was a known fact he was going to go back, Goran has the potential to be a BEAST, lets just see what else PHX brings to the team | |
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| 07-06-2012, 03:19 AM | away - #59 | |
So you just gonna leave Rose off the list and Monta Ellis u dumb idiot get ur facts str8 and go to espn.com and check[pic] | ||
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| 07-06-2012, 05:51 AM | away - #60 | |
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