Originally Posted by PEK Different people use different tactics to promote themselves and sell fights. I.E. Mike Tyson, do you really think he wanted to eat Lennox's children? Do you think Ali believed everything he said to sell fights back in his day?

Ali didnt do that sell fights... He did that to get in his opponents head... He believed people who fought out of anger fought stupidly... It wasnt about money for Ali... Thats the difference Ali did it to gain an advantage against his opponents he wanted to be the best fighter not the richest fighter... Ali's pre fight hype involved him mostly telling the media how he would beat his fighters and why... Mayweather's pre fight hype primarily involves him just talking about the fighter himself personally usually not boxing related either...

Tyson was mentally insane... it was obvious he was either bipolar or just had no true sense of reality... He bit off a man's ear so i actually believe him when he said he would eat his kids after that... Tyson rarely promoted any fights Don King did all the hype... Tyson just said whatever came to his mind and wanted to strike fear in his opponents... Thats not what Mayweather is doing...

Originally Posted by regularjoe I'm[..]uming you mean "can't" in your first sentence. And my mistake, it says won't, I skimmed too fast and thought it said can't. Mayweather viewers mostly draw on his own merit. Or from true boxing fans. If Mayweather fought legitimate respected fighters, the purse would be great, and the fight would sell. I don't wanna make it seem like I'm disagreeing with you, I just have a slightly different opinion. Edit: Also... Floyd is gonna beat Shane.

I got you...

I believe Floyd will definitely give Shane problems as Shane has always had problems with technical fighters... But that was before Nasim Richardson... Shane looks very good under his training technique... Floyd cant knockout Shane so he will have to go 12 rounds avoiding Shane's power... It will be interesting although i believe Floyd has a better chance of winning it wouldnt surprise me if Shane knocks him out...

All it takes is one punch and Shane will be the hardest puncher Mayweather will ever face at this weight... Margarito who was said to have the toughest chin at welterweight got caught with one good punch from Shane and never recovered... I cant wait... It should be a great fight

Originally Posted by dre03 Ali didnt do that sell fights... He did that to get in his opponents head... He believed people who fought out of anger fought stupidly... It wasnt about money for Ali... Thats the difference Ali did it to gain an advantage against his opponents he wanted to be the best fighter not the richest fighter... Ali's pre fight hype involved him mostly telling the media how he would beat his fighters and why... Mayweather's pre fight hype primarily involves him just talking about the fighter himself personally usually not boxing related either... Tyson was mentally insane... it was obvious he was either bipolar or just had no true sense of reality... He bit off a man's ear so i actually believe him when he said he would eat his kids after that... Tyson rarely promoted any fights Don King did all the hype... Tyson just said whatever came to his mind and wanted to strike fear in his opponents... Thats not what Mayweather is doing...

Yep, Tyson used scare tactics. Most of his opponents were flat out afraid of the beating they might take. When fighters realized that Mike wasn't "boxing skilled", and if they just fought Mike... he was plenty beatable.

Tyson is arguably the most overrated boxer in history. (Among others, but Tyson is on the list).

One of casual boxing fans favorite argument is... Tyson vs Ali... who would win. Answer: Ali would beat the !! out of Mike.

Originally Posted by dre03 I got you... I believe Floyd will definitely give Shane problems as Shane has always had problems with technical fighters... But that was before Nasim Richardson... Shane looks very good under his training technique... Floyd cant knockout Shane so he will have to go 12 rounds avoiding Shane's power... It will be interesting although i believe Floyd has a better chance of winning it wouldnt surprise me if Shane knocks him out... All it takes is one punch and Shane will be the hardest puncher Mayweather will ever face at this weight... Margarito who was said to have the toughest chin at welterweight got caught with one good punch from Shane and never recovered... I cant wait... It should be a great fight

Agreed. Although one thing that hurts Shane, is he's !!ing wild with his throws sometimes. IF (big if), Floyd counters nicely... he'll !! Shane up more than people think. Also... I'm not sure Shane can catch Floyd. I hate seeing Floyd dance all the time, but it is impressive in it's own way.

Side note: I !!ing love Nasim.

Originally Posted by regularjoe Agreed. Although one thing that hurts Shane, is he's !!ing wild with his throws sometimes. IF (big if), Floyd counters nicely... he'll !! Shane up more than people think. Also... I'm not sure Shane can catch Floyd. I hate seeing Floyd dance all the time, but it is impressive in it's own way. Side note: I !!ing love Nasim.

Yeah Shane throws those crazy punches... he is a brawler... And Shane is fast as well... Thats what few people know is how quick Shane is... I dont think Floyd can hurt him cuz Cotto and Margarito who are bigger punches caught Shane with flush punches but Shane has a hell of a chin... He gets hit alot and i hate that... cuz of the way he fights he takes punishment

Originally Posted by dre03 Ali didnt do that sell fights... He did that to get in his opponents head... He believed people who fought out of anger fought stupidly... It wasnt about money for Ali... Thats the difference Ali did it to gain an advantage against his opponents he wanted to be the best fighter not the richest fighter... Ali's pre fight hype involved him mostly telling the media how he would beat his fighters and why... Mayweather's pre fight hype primarily involves him just talking about the fighter himself personally usually not boxing related either... Tyson was mentally insane... it was obvious he was either bipolar or just had no true sense of reality... He bit off a man's ear so i actually believe him when he said he would eat his kids after that... Tyson rarely promoted any fights Don King did all the hype... Tyson just said whatever came to his mind and wanted to strike fear in his opponents... Thats not what Mayweather is doing...

Boxing champ Muhammad Ali, whose boastful and arrogant style derived from George, said in the release: ``I made up my mind after meeting Gorgeous George to make people angry at me. I saw 15,000 people coming to see this man get beat. And his talking did it. I said, `This is a good idea.'''

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Ali did the !! to sell tickets.

Tyson also admitted some of the !! he did was to sell fights.

But hate Mayweather all you want in less than a week when he backs up everything he says you'll hate him even more.

Originally Posted by chrismb exactly....i dont see anything wrong for it....some niccas motivation is legacy and being the greatest....floyd motivation is money...nothing is wrong with that cuz hes still training day in and day out giving it his all and performing well for the MONEY!

no that is where your wrong buddy...u dont see kobes motivation is money, but his motivation is to win it all and be the best

its a disgrace to the sport i tell ya, but i still like floyd....tell me he said

he doesnt care about legacy[pic] that should tell it all

Originally Posted by Javon23 and that is why im stealing the fight watching it streamed

props to you javon yeah dude is a disgace man

i mean his work ethic iss great dont get me wrong.....

u got the stream for it a link would be nice

Originally Posted by PEK What a lot of yall dont realize is that Floyd is playing the villian as he has in just about all of his PPV fights. He acts the way he does to sell tickets and PPV's and it clearly works. Do yall really think he dont care about his legacy? Do yall really think he believes everything he says? He does the !! for entertainment when the cameras are on.

if he did care about his legacy and where he will be put why didnt he fight pacman???dont give me that !! about the blood test too and pacman didnt want to fight him because of that ??

and if he was about money why didnt he take the biggest pay of his career???he walked out on 40 milll [pic]

since he doesnt care about his legacy and about money why didnt he fight pacman ?cuz he knew he would lose

and that would take away him from talking madd !!

i mean if i was undefeated i would be talking mad !!

either way i think he is doing for entertainment

and he just wanted another fight in b4 wit pacman idk

Originally Posted by teh truth if he did care about his legacy and where he will be put why didnt he fight pacman???dont give me that !! about the blood test too and pacman didnt want to fight him because of that ?? and if he was about money why didnt he take the biggest pay of his career???he walked out on 40 milll [pic] since he doesnt care about his legacy and about money why didnt he fight pacman ?cuz he knew he would lose and that would take away him from talking madd !! i mean if i was undefeated i would be talking mad !! either way i think he is doing for entertainment and he just wanted another fight in b4 wit pacman idk

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nicca Manny is the one who walked away from the fight and instantly took a fight with Clottey the !! are you talking about Mayweather was the favorite in vegas for the fight with Pacquiao[pic]

props for this, have to see episode 2 first.

Originally Posted by dre03 Yeah Shane throws those crazy punches... he is a brawler... And Shane is fast as well... Thats what few people know is how quick Shane is... I dont think Floyd can hurt him cuz Cotto and Margarito who are bigger punches caught Shane with flush punches but Shane has a hell of a chin... He gets hit alot and i hate that... cuz of the way he fights he takes punishment

It's boxing.... anyone can be knocked out with the right conditions. Agreed on Shane's chin (and nose... ok that was wrong, lol).

Originally Posted by teh truth if he did care about his legacy and where he will be put why didnt he fight pacman???dont give me that !! about the blood test too and pacman didnt want to fight him because of that ?? and if he was about money why didnt he take the biggest pay of his career???he walked out on 40 milll [pic] since he doesnt care about his legacy and about money why didnt he fight pacman ?cuz he knew he would lose and that would take away him from talking madd !! i mean if i was undefeated i would be talking mad !! either way i think he is doing for entertainment and he just wanted another fight in b4 wit pacman idk

Yall people k!ll me this blame Floyd for the Pacman fight not happening !!. Athletes all over the world take that test but Pacman cant. Pacman can take a blood test 21 days before fighting Clottey, but cant take one 14 days before fighting Floyd. Is Mayweather psychic? how the hell did he know Pacman would walk away from 40 mil over a damn blood test?

Originally Posted by Main Event [pic] nicca Manny is the one who walked away from the fight and instantly took a fight with Clottey the !! are you talking about Mayweather was the favorite in vegas for the fight with Pacquiao[pic]

lol dont give me that !! this fight was already made....

until mayweather wanted olympic style testing so tell me how come those other 40 fights he never had that style of testing????then wen the big dogg comes in(pacman) he does that bull!!?

i mean if i was pacman that would be a slap too the face..top pound for pound and this nicca here is trying to bust this !!??????

BUT STILL IF HE WAS ABOUT MONEY AND NOT ABOUT LEGACY HE WOULDNT GIVE A TWO !!S since HES ABOUT MONEY RIGHT?YET HE LET HIS BIGGEST PAY CHECK OF HIS CAREER SLIP AWAY ASHAME I thOUGHt HE WAS ABOUT MOnEY IS WAT IM SAYING

Originally Posted by teh truth lol dont give me that !! this fight was already made.... until mayweather wanted olympic style testing so tell me how come those other 40 fights he never had that style of testing????then wen the big dogg comes in(pacman) he does that bull!!? i mean if i was pacman that would be a slap too the face..top pound for pound and this nicca here is trying to bust this !!?????? BUT STILL IF HE WAS ABOUT MONEY AND NOT ABOUT LEGACY HE WOULDNT GIVE A TWO !!S since HES ABOUT MONEY RIGHT?YET HE LET HIS BIGGEST PAY CHECK OF HIS CAREER SLIP AWAY ASHAME I thOUGHt HE WAS ABOUT MOnEY IS WAT IM SAYING

Yes because the other 40 fighters he fought were ever accused of using Steroids right [pic]

Im on the record for saying i dont think he's on them but it looks shady and suspect as !! for not taking a test, whenever you hear people talk about the fight meltdown the 1st thing people talk about is Manny refusing to take the test not Floyd making him take it. You hear people say "Your really gonna walk away from your biggest payday every because of a bloodtest" you never hear "Wow Floyd is ducking Manny by making him take a drugtest" Your a !!in clown even his own trainer said he would take the test if he was in Manny situation

Originally Posted by PEK Yall people k!ll me this blame Floyd for the Pacman fight not happening !!. Athletes all over the world take that test but Pacman cant. Pacman can take a blood test 21 days before fighting Clottey, but cant take one 14 days before fighting Floyd. Is Mayweather psychic? how the hell did he know Pacman would walk away from 40 mil over a damn blood test?

i really would like for someone to answer this question

"i didn't teach him how to box, I taught em how to git dat money!" LMFAO, fuking idiots.

Originally Posted by Main Event Yes because the other 40 fighters he fought were ever accused of using Steroids right [pic] Im on the record for saying i dont think he's on them but it looks shady and suspect as !! for not taking a test, whenever you hear people talk about the fight meltdown the 1st thing people talk about is Manny refusing to take the test not Floyd making him take it. You hear people say "Your really gonna walk away from your biggest payday every because of a bloodtest" you never hear "Wow Floyd is ducking Manny by making him take a drugtest" Your a !!in clown even his own trainer said he would take the test if he was in Manny situation

so where was pacman every accuse???????? b4 all this olympic style??

either way i think all this is all hype and all planned

BECAUSE floyd wants one more fight coming out of retirement, i would too if i was about to fight one of the best in the bizz not pee pee mouth marquez

Originally Posted by StateProperty88 i really would like for someone to answer this question

was going to ask him, but my weed connect called me n !! [pic]

Originally Posted by teh truth so where was pacman every accuse???????? b4 all this olympic style?? either way i think all this is all hype and all planned BECAUSE floyd wants one more fight coming out of retirement, i would too if i was about to fight one of the best in the bizz not pee pee mouth marquez

Other fighters have said they think Manny is on something so just because YOU personally never heard it doesnt mean it wasnt ever said

Marquez = tuneup for Manny, then they were ready and he refused to take a test so he fought the best option out. You can say he fights for checks but his next 2 fights just happen to help out his legacy a bunch