Lakers & Cavs Records Without Kobe or LeBron

By Hovi Bryant - 05-12-2010, 02:15 PM - Boxden > BX SportsCenter

Kobe Bryant

1021 Games Played

676 Games Won

Kobe Bryant's Regular Season Win Percentage = .662

Lakers Win Percentage Without Kobe Bryant = .604 (95 games)

Difference = .058

LeBron James

548 Games Played

339 Games Won

LeBron James' Win Percentage = .618

Cavs win percentage without LeBron James = .384 (26 Games)

Difference = .234

Hovi Bryant: LeBron James vs. Kobe Bryant Part 1: Wins and Losses

Wild.

05-12-2010, 02:17 PM

you can bring stats all you want this and that,but in the end of the day

kobe>>>lebron

u look at this year lebron has his roster now

back2back best record in the L 60 plus wins

and nothing in the playoffs

something is not right

05-12-2010, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by teh truth

you can bring stats all you want this and that,but in the end of the day

kobe>>>lebron

u look at this year lebron has his roster now

back2back best record in the L 60 plus wins

and nothing in the playoffs

something is not right

Something isn't right. I agree with you there. Stay tuned.

05-12-2010, 02:24 PM

Unfortunately the Cavs lose so many games because 90% of the offense is run through LeBron, so when he's not on the floor it's complete mayhem and anarchy.

05-12-2010, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by WilliamHBonnie

Unfortunately the Cavs lose so many games because 90% of the offense is run through LeBron, so when he's not on the floor it's complete mayhem and anarchy.

He was on the floor last night. [pic]

05-12-2010, 02:27 PM

You really made a blog to suck off Lebron?

[pic]

05-12-2010, 02:27 PM

seeing as how lebron is the only playmaker on that team, yeah obviously the cavs will struggle more without their star player than the lakers would without theirs. the triangle doesn't even really require a real playmaker or point guard. the cavalier offense does. stupid post.

05-12-2010, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Rubix

seeing as how lebron is the only playmaker on that team, yeah obviously the cavs will struggle more without their star player than the lakers would without theirs. the triangle doesn't even really require a real playmaker or point guard. the cavalier offense does. stupid post.

It's hilarious to see how many of you are instantly offended. I posted no opinion or analysis, just the facts.

05-12-2010, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Hovi Bryant

He was on the floor last night. [pic]

When he doesn't play well it is the same reason for a L. They just watch LeBron for 90% of the game, run an off the ball screen for Mo for 5% and the rest is random !! that Mike Brown asked his[..]istance to draw up.

Other players may shoot more, but !! if they have the ball as much...

05-12-2010, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by -BigC-

When he doesn't play well it is the same reason for a L. They just watch LeBron for 90% of the game, run an off the ball screen for Mo for 5% and the rest is random !! that Mike Brown asked his[..]istance to draw up.

Other players may shoot more, but !! if they have the ball as much...

I'll dig into that some other time. I just wanted to post this up.

05-12-2010, 02:33 PM

im offended because i called it stupid? well it is. lol @ calling this "facts." like i said, u didnt take into account the system both these players are in. the only thing hilarious in this thread is your pathetic blog.

05-12-2010, 02:43 PM

Well obviously LeBrons system isnt working. Cause 2 straight #1 seed in NBA, not just Eastern Conference but NBA, and no championship? 2 straight NBA MVPs, no championship? These stats just solidify the fact that KOBE>>

05-12-2010, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Rubix

im offended because i called it stupid? well it is. lol @ calling this "facts." like i said, u didnt take into account the system both these players are in. the only thing hilarious in this thread is your pathetic blog.

I'm no psychiatrist, but if someone labels something stupid (and pathetic) in a response, I believe they may be a little hurt.

Taking into account of what system a player plays in does not directly affect anything in regards of the statistics I posted. Those numbers were going to be the same weather I elaborated on that or not, even then it's totally subjective opinion after that.

05-12-2010, 02:45 PM

how many of those games kobe missed were while shaq was still on the team?

05-12-2010, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Hovi Bryant

I'm no psychiatrist, but if someone labels something stupid (and pathetic) in a response, I believe they may be a little hurt.

Taking into account of what system a player plays in does not directly affect anything in regards of the statistics I posted. Those numbers were going to be the same weather I elaborated on that or not, even then it's totally subjective opinion after that.

okay i'll admit, the only thing that truly offended me was how retarded and simplistic your post was and how you're trying to pass it off as some sort of work of intelligence. lmao @ "weather"..!! please.

05-12-2010, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by mattnesss

Well obviously LeBrons system isnt working. Cause 2 straight #1 seed in NBA, not just Eastern Conference but NBA, and no championship? 2 straight NBA MVPs, no championship? These stats just solidify the fact that KOBE>>

Sorry Lebron is better, but Kobe is better at getting the players he needs to win championships. Simple as that.

05-12-2010, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by joshdogg26

how many of those games kobe missed were while shaq was still on the team?

Kobe missed 64 games while Shaq was with the team.

The Lakers win percentage without Kobe between 1997-2004? .671

Now this information isn't entirely accurate as I hardly believe Shaq played every single game Kobe missed, but this is somewhere in the ballpark.

05-12-2010, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Rubix

okay i'll admit, the only thing that truly offended me was how retarded and simplistic your post was and how you're trying to pass it off as some sort of work of intelligence. lmao @ "weather"..!! please.

That's your problem not mine. [pic]

05-12-2010, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by mattnesss

Well obviously LeBrons system isnt working. Cause 2 straight #1 seed in NBA, not just Eastern Conference but NBA, and no championship? 2 straight NBA MVPs, no championship? These stats just solidify the fact that KOBE>>

I can agree with this...as much as I dislike Kobe no one can take away what he's done

he's still not the GOAT though...just look at Mike's stats in the playoffs/season/finals and all his accolades

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