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Imo kobe and jordan are equals, I know people will point to jordans outlandish numbers but jordan never had to face a zone d, never had to face double and triple teams because of illegal d so I think those more iso opportunities plus his freakish athleticism for his era give him more opportunies to get easy shots. I think had jordan faced defense like that, he would not have had as high of numbers. But he is jordan and would still have great numbers, just think they'd closer translate to what we've seen from kobe

Originally Posted by Hurricane24 Imo kobe and jordan are equals, I know people will point to jordans outlandish numbers but jordan never had to face a zone d, never had to face double and triple teams because of illegal d so I think those more iso opportunities plus his freakish athleticism for his era give him more opportunies to get easy shots. I think had jordan faced defense like that, he would not have had as high of numbers. But he is jordan and would still have great numbers, just think they'd closer translate to what we've seen from kobe

na jordan would still put better numbers imo just off the fact what seperates jordan and kobe is how freaking athletic jordan was and how he can palm the ball with one hand and do all that crazy with the !!...i think he also would have went to the line more but your idk if his numbers would look as good as it did back then...plus jordan takes smarter shots than kobe

Jordan = 1, Kobe = Top 5, Lebron = why is he even in this convo ?

Originally Posted by thegoldenhero na jordan would still put better numbers imo just off the fact what seperates jordan and kobe is how freaking athletic jordan was and how he can palm the ball with one hand and do all that crazy with the !!...i think he also would have went to the line more but your idk if his numbers would look as good as it did back then...plus jordan takes smarter shots than kobe

Kobe was very athletic for a while too only up until about 2 years ago did it slowly go down, and palm a ball? Wth? As if kobe can't? I think they are equals, and damn kobe had 35 ppg one season in this era where u can double team

Originally Posted by Hurricane24 Imo kobe and jordan are equals, I know people will point to jordans outlandish numbers but jordan never had to face a zone d, never had to face double and triple teams because of illegal d so I think those more iso opportunities plus his freakish athleticism for his era give him more opportunies to get easy shots. I think had jordan faced defense like that, he would not have had as high of numbers. But he is jordan and would still have great numbers, just think they'd closer translate to what we've seen from kobe

Son please...nobody barely even runs zone and when they do teams usually !! on them. Only times teams run zone is to try and give a different look if theyre gettin !!ted on. Mavs one of the only teams who run a zone like that and how'd that work out for a kobe

Also u might want to put youtube in ur browser....although it was "technically" illegal teams used to double team and run zone all the time

Lastly an old broken down mj played in this very era with these same rules and with no athleticism,no driving ability,a flat shot,and bad knees still came out and put up 23 ppg and was actually 7th in scoring before his knees broke down

Originally Posted by philly337 Son please...nobody barely even runs zone and when they do teams usually !! on them. Only times teams run zone is to try and give a different look if theyre gettin !!ted on. Mavs one of the only teams who run a zone like that and how'd that work out for a kobe Also u might want to put youtube in ur browser....although it was "technically" illegal teams used to double team and run zone all the time Lastly an old broken down mj played in this very era with these same rules and with no athleticism,no driving ability,a flat shot,and bad knees still came out and put up 23 ppg and was actually 7th in scoring before his knees broke down

that wasnt this era...

Originally Posted by Cambury that wasnt this era...

Lol this !!in guy...maybe I need to make it more simplistic for u

Zone defenses became legal 01-02

Jordan played that year and the year after as a broken down old man and still did ok

No difference in the league today and the early 2000's


Hate when !!s post irrelevant !! and u have to break it down cause theyre dumb as !!

Why I even respond? U cant even understand how 1+1+1+1+1+1+1-1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1x0 = 14

Something a third grader can answer

Originally Posted by philly337 Lol this !!in guy...maybe I need to make it more simplistic for u Zone defenses became legal 01-02 Jordan played that year and the year after as a broken down old man and still did ok No difference in the league today and the early 2000's Hate when !!s post irrelevant !! and u have to break it down cause theyre dumb as !! Why I even respond? U cant even understand how 1+1+1+1+1+1+1-1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1x0 = 14 Something a third grader can answer

Yeah? We going to pretend we don't see zones? And u could double team for 5 seconds or get called for illegal defense. And 2001=2011? This era? Today's nba has so much more talent than even 10 years ago. But if jordan played in this era then his name would be kobe. Is it so hard to believe that jordan has an equal?

IMHO,,, Jordan will be jordan and its hard to compare because of the different ERA's. Jordan played in a less athletic ERA where there was solid fundamental skill to make up for that lack of athleticism.

Kobe has been playing in the middle of an older generation to a newer one and is still dominating, is still regarded in the league, by players, coaches, as one of the BEST. players in the league want to be like KOBE. He has 5 championships, 1 mvp, 3 finals MVP, has been an All-star practically his whole NBA career. Has many streaks such as 50 points or more in 4 cons. games, 40 point streaks, etc.

winning a NBA championship in this league is very hard, especially in this generation of talent, let alone 5. Kobe has defined what clutch means in the regular season, and playoffs. i especially think western conference teams know this; such as sacramento, portland, san antonio, phoenix, denver, oklahoma ,

All these teams know kobe and dont wna see him in the playoffs, and thats all i gta say for that.

and as far as lebron comparisons, kobe is his athletic prime was unstoppable and >>>. now that kobe has been aging, it is still apparent he is very relevant in this league not by his athleticism, but by his skill set. what i am trying to say is once lebron loses his amazing athletics, he is done. Kobe on the other hand has still continued to prove he is relevant and overall the bette player. what has lebron done anyway???[pic]

Originally Posted by Jostre IMHO,,, Jordan will be jordan and its hard to compare because of the different ERA's. Jordan played in a less athletic ERA where there was solid fundamental skill to make up for that lack of athleticism. Kobe has been playing in the middle of an older generation to a newer one and is still dominating, is still regarded in the league, by players, coaches, as one of the BEST. players in the league want to be like KOBE. He has 5 championships, 1 mvp, 3 finals MVP, has been an All-star practically his whole NBA career. Has many streaks such as 50 points or more in 4 cons. games, 40 point streaks, etc. winning a NBA championship in this league is very hard, especially in this generation of talent, let alone 5. Kobe has defined what clutch means in the regular season, and playoffs. i especially think western conference teams know this; such as sacramento, portland, san antonio, phoenix, denver, oklahoma , All these teams know kobe and dont wna see him in the playoffs, and thats all i gta say for that. and as far as lebron comparisons, kobe is his athletic prime was unstoppable and >>>. now that kobe has been aging, it is still apparent he is very relevant in this league not by his athleticism, but by his skill set. what i am trying to say is once lebron loses his amazing athletics, he is done. Kobe on the other hand has still continued to prove he is relevant and overall the bette player. what has lebron done anyway???[pic]

lol at the hardware u named for kobe and stretches of 40-50 point games...do u understand how !!ty his accomplishments look compared to mj? And lol at defining clutch...

Kobe shoots around 30% on game winning shots for his career (just for measurement lebron james, shoots better), hes 6 for 25 on gw shots in the playoffs and has missed his last 7 attempts, he got blown out by 39 points in the finals, lost a 20 point lead in the finals at home in same series, lost 3-1 lead to suns, shoots 41% on his career in the finals, in 4 of 7 finals appearances averaged a fg% of 42%,40%,38%,37%, and not only just got swept by the mavs but lost again in a series deciding game by 30+

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Everyone better know Jordan is better

I think Dallas sweeping LA in the playoffs while Kobe was only 32 and only avg 17 pts in the series is enough to put the Jordan vs Kobe debate to an end. Plus, 2 finals MVP vs 6 finals MVP? Lets be real. I love Kobe tho, but MJ>K24. Lebron not even in the conversation.

Originally Posted by philly337 Lol this !!in guy...maybe I need to make it more simplistic for u Zone defenses became legal 01-02 Jordan played that year and the year after as a broken down old man and still did ok No difference in the league today and the early 2000's Hate when !!s post irrelevant !! and u have to break it down cause theyre dumb as !! Why I even respond? U cant even understand how 1+1+1+1+1+1+1-1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1x0 = 14 Something a third grader can answer

14x0=0

not tryna to make u sound irrelevant or nothin

wow my nicca u sonned yourself cuz you actually think it equals 14 LMAO

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Originally Posted by philly337 Lol this !!in guy...maybe I need to make it more simplistic for u Zone defenses became legal 01-02 Jordan played that year and the year after as a broken down old man and still did ok No difference in the league today and the early 2000's Hate when !!s post irrelevant !! and u have to break it down cause theyre dumb as !! Why I even respond? U cant even understand how 1+1+1+1+1+1+1-1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1x0 = 14Something a third grader can answer

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nicca go to kindergarten.

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Epic fail for these two !!s

Let me break it down for u retards

1+1+1+1+1+1+1-1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1x0=?

Do u remember pemdas [pic]

Multiplication comes first so now is....

1+1+1+1+1+1+1-1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+0=?

Now u add/subtract left to right giving u the answer of 14. U two need to go back to elementary school with the other dumba#s I was originally talking to

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Originally Posted by philly337 [pic] Epic fail for these two !!s Let me break it down for u retards 1+1+1+1+1+1+1-1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1x0=? Do u remember pemdas [pic] Multiplication comes first so now is.... 1+1+1+1+1+1+1-1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+0=? Now u add/subtract left to right giving u the answer of 14. U two need to go back to elementary school with the other dumba#s I was originally talking to !!ng idiots I swear [pic][pic][pic]

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Are you actually being serious right now? Seriously? Just off yourself now.

Bahahahaha...this !!ing dude does not really know third grade math.

Pemdas...the order is

1. Parenthesis (their are none)
2. Exponents (their are none)
3. Multiplication (so u multiply the 1x0 first dumba#s)
4. Division (their is none)
5. Addition
6. Subtraction

Just like multiplication and division is ranked the same addition and subtraction rank the same so u work left to right when u have both.

Now follow with me....

First u multiply the 1x0

Then u add/subtract from right to left getting the answer of 14

This is basic math and u should just stop replying cause ur looking stupid as !!

Originally Posted by philly337 Bahahahaha...this !!ing dude does not really know third grade math. Pemdas...the order is 1. Parenthesis (their are none) 2. Exponents (their are none) 3. Multiplication (so u multiply the 1x0 first dumba#s) 4. Division (their is none) 5. Addition 6. Subtraction Just like multiplication and division is ranked the same addition and subtraction rank the same so u work left to right when u have both. Now follow with me.... First u multiply the 1x0 Then u add/subtract from right to left getting the answer of 14 This is basic math and u should just stop replying cause ur looking stupid as !!

Hahaha i stand corrected, being this high and doing math dont go well together. Guess thats why i keep failing calculus[pic]