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Kobe vs Jordan vs LeBron - discussion thread (will be merged here)


 Kobe vs Jordan vs LeBron - discussion thread (will be merged here)
 02-19-2012, 10:09 AMaway - #261
Akira Son Bio
Originally Posted by mastahkillah


it aint the same but he got another one too thats a gif thats pretty funny
Damn son. Jordan ain't have to do him like that. !! was vicious
 02-19-2012, 10:10 AMaway - #262
dre03
Originally Posted by Cambury
I never said Kobe didnt have the kinda help he needed to win...i said just imagine if he had the help wade got or mike had...!! is not an excuse, its reality. Kobe has played beside 1 hall of fame in his prime and that resulted in 3 championships. Mike played beside at least 1 for 10 yrs, wade is playing beside 1 (James) and a possible (bosh if they win a ring)
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Every year Kobe won did he play next to an all-star that year??? Yes
Every year Kobe won did he have an all-star big man that year??? Yes
How many dynasties in NBA history do not have an all-star big man? 1
Who is that dyn@sty? The Bulls
How many other teams in NBA history have won without an all-star big man? 3
How many championships did Jordan win without a second all-star that year? 2
Did Kobe win a ring every year he played next to an all star that year? No
Did Jordan win a ring every year he played next to an all-star that year? YES

Hall of fame judges an entire career... It is not judged from season to season... Two seasons that Pippen played with Jordan he wasn't considered one of the league's top 12 players in his own conference... And to top it off wasn't even named to any of the All NBA teams the Bulls first championship which means nobody considered him even a top 15 player for that season... Now find me one championship team Kobe played on where he didnt have an all-star select playing with him or an all-NBA player and then you can come at me with this help argument...
 02-19-2012, 10:12 AMaway - #263
Cowboys All Day
Originally Posted by Drug Dylan



Got something better....Kobe taking a two piece and a biscuit from Chris Childs....then turning tough AFTER the team comes to the rescue
vid already posted in this thread... childs hit him in the neck. I'm neutral in this argument, only people bringing this childs vid in here are delusional as !! just reachin.
 02-19-2012, 10:13 AMonline - #264
ThaShark316
Originally Posted by philly337
I like how toy always leave out carton butler and Lamar...you tell me the better supporting cast

Coach : rudy t

Chucky Atkins
Caron butler
Lamar Odom
Chris mihm

That's an average supporting cast and Kobe missed the playoffs with thatin the prime ofhis career after winning 3 chips

Orrrrrrrr

Coach : Kevin loghery

Quintin daily
Steve Johnson
Orlando woolridge
Dave corzine

Who? [pic]
That's what I mean when I say give me Odom. Hell I !!ing forgot about Butler (probably because they dealt him before anyone could remember his Laker tenure [pic]).

Woolridge was good in his prime years (Pre-Detroit), but the rest of those guys were starting when they were probably bench guys on good teams (Johnson = good when he actually went to a good/great team).
 02-19-2012, 10:16 AMonline - #265
philly337
Originally Posted by dre03
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Every year Kobe won did he play next to an all-star that year??? Yes
Every year Kobe won did he have an all-star big man that year??? Yes
How many dynasties in NBA history do not have an all-star big man? 1
Who is that dyn@sty? The Bulls
How many other teams in NBA history have won without an all-star big man? 3
How many championships did Jordan win without a second all-star that year? 2
Did Kobe win a ring every year he played next to an all star that year? No
Did Jordan win a ring every year he played next to an all-star that year? YES

Hall of fame judges an entire career... It is not judged from season to season... Two seasons that Pippen played with Jordan he wasn't considered one of the league's top 12 players in his own conference... And to top it off wasn't even named to any of the All NBA teams the Bulls first championship which means nobody considered him even a top 15 player for that season... Now find me one championship team Kobe played on where he didnt have an all-star select playing with him or an all-NBA player and then you can come at me with this help argument...
and when pip missed half the season in his final season with the bulls they won 60 games...and pips first year with the bulls he played off the bench with a game changing 8 points and they won 50 games. The fact its Jordan never got a realistic chance to win without pip because he came so early in his career before the team got est@blished and stayed the entire time...but Kobe fans hang on to like he was supposed to beat some of the best teams ever in his first two years with the third worst team in the nba

Kobe on the other hand got that chance and missed the playoffs and lost in the first round twice...also lost in the finals with shaq, Payton, and Malone beside him [pic]

Then least in the finals again [pic]

Last edited by philly337; 02-19-2012 at 10:19 AM..
 02-19-2012, 10:22 AMaway - #266
dre03
Originally Posted by Nate187um
I dont call "taking them to the playoffs" with a 30-52 record anything to brag about

38-44
30-52
40-42

congrats on making the playoffs with a losing record

SP joins the team and they go 50-32, IMAGINE THAT

I would take ANY of the starters who started along side jordan over

SMUSH PARKER....LUKE WALTON....CHRIS MIHM.....KWAME BROWN...need I go on????
Its funny how you left out Odom and Butler out of those starters... This is what i mean by hypocritical... Make your point with facts... Dont try and purposely leave out facts to fit your argument... You obviously believe Butler and Odom are better than Jordan's teammates or else you would have left them in your argument...

In 94-95 the Bulls were 34-31 before Jordan came back and in danger of possibly missing the playoffs... They finished the season 13-4 in the 17 games Jordan came back to finish 47-35... They then went 72-10 the following season... Kind of trumps your SP joining and the Bulls and going 50-32 argument seeing how SP didnt even start that year and barely played...
 02-19-2012, 10:24 AMaway - #267
dre03
Originally Posted by ThaShark316
That's what I mean when I say give me Odom. Hell I !!ing forgot about Butler (probably because they dealt him before anyone could remember his Laker tenure [pic]).

Woolridge was good in his prime years (Pre-Detroit), but the rest of those guys were starting when they were probably bench guys on good teams (Johnson = good when he actually went to a good/great team).
Don't forget in the 86-87 season Jordan didn't even have Woolridge anymore... He only had Oakley... [pic]

Charles !!ing Oakley was his second best player... [pic]
 02-19-2012, 10:28 AMonline - #268
ThaShark316
Originally Posted by dre03
Don't forget in the 86-87 season Jordan didn't even have Woolridge anymore... He only had Oakley... [pic]

Charles !!ing Oakley was his second best player... [pic]
Didn't forget at all. Oak was bad[..], but [pic] @ being a #2 for ANYONE. I brought him up in an earlier post. That's sad as all hell.
 02-19-2012, 10:28 AMonline - #269
Aesop730
Mike wasn't bout that life till the Bad Boy's era was over, he ain't built for the life .
 02-19-2012, 10:30 AMaway - #270
DR JAYY
i swear you niccas are something else [pic]
 02-19-2012, 10:45 AMaway - #271
Nate187um
niccas are IDIOTS on here I swear

04-05 lakers

Tomjanovich coached the team to a 22–19 record before resigning due to health problems.Assistant Frank Hamblen was named interim head coach to replace Tomjanovich for the remainder of the season

Kobe misses 16 games Odom misses 18 games they miss the playoffs

the following seasons with a healthy Kobe & SMUSH PARKER LUKE WALTON KWAME BROWN/CHRIS MIHM as starters they make the playoffs WITH A WINNING RECORD OUT WEST

but no we will just keep referring to the one year caron butler and chucky [pic] atkins were on the team

the bulls 2nd option woolridge was droppin 20-23 ppg and to odom average 15ppg those seasons

& when oakley was the 2nd option he was droppin 15 and grabbin 13 BOARDS..............

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 02-19-2012, 10:53 AMaway - #272
PG-13
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what kind of !! accomplishment is that? [pic]
 02-19-2012, 10:53 AMaway - #273
Storchaveli
Originally Posted by Cambury
Reggie did
[pic] And I'm an MJ stan.

Originally Posted by mastahkillah


it aint the same but he got another one too thats a gif thats pretty funny
[pic] Bawse. Even the announcers are like

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 02-19-2012, 11:17 AMaway - #274
Rico23
He blew a 3-1 lead He blew a 3-1 lead He blew a 3-1 lead He blew a 3-1 lead He blew a 3-1 lead He blew a 3-1 lead He blew a 3-1 lead He blew a 3-1 lead He blew a 3-1 lead He blew a 3-1 lead He blew a 3-1 lead He blew a 3-1 lead He blew a 3-1 lead He blew a 3-1 lead He blew a 3-1 lead











He blew a 3-1 lead

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 02-19-2012, 11:45 AMaway - #275
YoungRay20
lol Kobe, he ain't soft but he did get his[..] beat a couple of teams. Matt Barnes is soft though must basketball player's aren't afraid of him.

OH to end thread

MJ>Kobe.

David Stern>>>Kobe and fans.

Last edited by YoungRay20; 02-19-2012 at 11:47 AM..
 02-19-2012, 12:47 PMaway - #276
dre03
Originally Posted by Nate187um
niccas are IDIOTS on here I swear

04-05 lakers

Tomjanovich coached the team to a 22–19 record before resigning due to health problems.Assistant Frank Hamblen was named interim head coach to replace Tomjanovich for the remainder of the season

Kobe misses 16 games Odom misses 18 games they miss the playoffs

the following seasons with a healthy Kobe & SMUSH PARKER LUKE WALTON KWAME BROWN/CHRIS MIHM as starters they make the playoffs WITH A WINNING RECORD OUT WEST

but no we will just keep referring to the one year caron butler and chucky [pic] atkins were on the team

the bulls 2nd option woolridge was droppin 20-23 ppg and to odom average 15ppg those seasons

& when oakley was the 2nd option he was droppin 15 and grabbin 13 BOARDS..............

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First U dumb !!...Luke Walton was a starter but you still had ODom who was the second best player on the team... There was never a season where Mihm, Brown, Walton and PArker started... Odom started every game he played for the Lakers during those years... And Chris Mihm wasn't even on the team the year Walton started... U don't even know ur own damn team [pic]

Second... Make up ur mind... Are u basing how good a player is from his points per game now or the player himself? Cuz you just credited SP for getting the Bulls to a 50-32 record in his first season when he barely played and only averaged 8 points per game... But when talking about Odom he wasn't very good because he only averaged 15 points per game :wtf:... So which is it?? Either SP had nothing to do with the Bulls being 50-32 his first season or Odom was a great second option?? It can't be both using ur reasons u gave so i will let you sit there and figure which one hurts ur ego less to admit...

Third... Jordan played one season alongside Woolridge and ironically that was his most efficient season averaging 23 points on 55% shooting on one of the slowest paced teams in the league at the time... Setting a career 119 Offensive rating which was the best of his career...

Fourth... Are you seriously posting numbers to justify Oakley being the second leading scorer on the team??? He can't create any shot for himself... He scores mostly off of hustle plays and open jump shots from Jordan's penetration.. nicca was taking 13 shots to score 14 points a game... Your second best player is a player who can't do anything on the offense on his own and shoots as many shots as points scored... And you consider that a good second option??? I can't believe i even have to argue the point of Oakley being a second option to you... That's like having Ben Wallace, Chuck Hayes, Cartwright, Reggie Evans or somebody like that as your second offensive option... Come on bro... I know u stupid but damn there is no way God gave you no !!ing intelligence whatsoever [pic]...

Last edited by dre03; 02-19-2012 at 12:56 PM..
 02-19-2012, 12:52 PMaway - #277
Nate187um
2006-2007 lakers

Luke Walton games played 60, GAMES STARTED 60

he only started the 3rd most games on the entire roster behind kobe (77) and SMUSH PARKER (80)

thanks lamar for starting 56 games that year!

why do I even bother with these boxden clowns

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Last edited by Nate187um; 02-19-2012 at 12:55 PM..
 02-19-2012, 01:12 PMaway - #278
dre03
Originally Posted by Nate187um
2006-2007 lakers

Luke Walton games played 60, GAMES STARTED 60

he only started the 3rd most games on the entire roster behind kobe (77) and SMUSH PARKER (80)

thanks lamar for starting 56 games that year!

why do I even bother with these boxden clowns

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What are you talking about dumbass???

You said his starting lineup was Mihm, Brown, Parker and Walton... Mihm wasn't even on the team when Walton started like i said and Odom started that year to dumbass... Where the !! did you get that starting lineup from??? Show me a season where Mihm, Walton, Parker, Bryant and Brown were your regular starters... Dumbass

U said 04-05 in your post and then said the following season which would be 05-06 when Mihm was on the team... And Walton started 6 !!ing games... Now you talking about the 06-07 season and Mihm wasn't even on the !!ing team... You made up a starting lineup...

56 games is more games then Pippen played for the Bulls in 1998 when Jordan won his 6th ring... Played a whopping 44 games and was trash the whole playoffs cuz of his bad back...

Last edited by dre03; 02-19-2012 at 01:15 PM..
 02-19-2012, 01:23 PMaway - #279
Nate187um
Originally Posted by dre03
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What are you talking about dumbass???

You said his starting lineup was Mihm, Brown, Parker and Walton... Mihm wasn't even on the team when Walton started like i said and Odom started that year to dumbass... Where the !! did you get that starting lineup from??? Show me a season where Mihm, Walton, Parker, Bryant and Brown were your regular starters... Dumbass

U said 04-05 in your post and then said the following season which would be 05-06 when Mihm was on the team... And Walton started 6 !!ing games... Now you talking about the 06-07 season and Mihm wasn't even on the !!ing team... You made up a starting lineup...

56 games is more games then Pippen played for the Bulls in 1998 when Jordan won his 6th ring... Played a whopping 44 games and was trash the whole playoffs cuz of his bad back...
lmao yeah go EDIT your way out of that

"LUKE WALTON NEVER STARTED A GAME FOR ANY OF THOSE LAKER TEAMS" - dre03


OK IDIOT

05-06 = SMUSH, kobe, odom, KWAME, MIHM

06-07 = SMUSH, kobe, WALTON, odom, 19 year old bynum 53 games, KWAME 28 games

now what is so great about either of these line ups again???????????????

chance to redeem yourself for your EDIT you !!ing idiot
 02-24-2012, 10:25 PMaway - #280
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