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Dana White Runs Into Mayweather in Vegas

Updated Jul 27, 2010 6:58 PM ET About a week ago, UFC boss Dana White ...


 Dana White Runs Into Mayweather in Vegas
By thugged - 07-29-2010, 03:24 PM - Boxden > BX SportsCenter


Updated Jul 27, 2010 6:58 PM ET

About a week ago, UFC boss Dana White ran into Floyd Mayweather at the Hard Rock in Vegas.

“When’s this fight gonna happen?” asked White referring to the prospect of Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao.

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“What do you care?” said Mayweather. “You got the UFC.”

“I’m a boxing fan,” said White, who is, in fact, a boxing fan, and from way back.

“Well, I’m not desperate,” sneered Mayweather.

Desperate? Who said anything about desperate?

The man who calls himself “Money” stood to gain between $45 and $60 million fighting Pacquiao, depending on whom you believe. Instead, Mayweather (undefeated in 41 fights) — whose camp has long argued his hypothetical superiority over the likes of such scrubs as Sugar Ray Robinson (with a mere 202 pro bouts) and Muhammad Ali — takes a pass on history and fortune, leaving Pacquiao to fight … Antonio Margarito.

Margarito, you may recall, isn’t licensed to fight in the United States, as other state commissions honor the ruling of California, which suspended him after his trainer was caught applying plaster inserts to his handwraps. Without loaded gloves, Margarito was demolished by Shane Mosley. That was January ’09. His one fight since was a lackluster effort against somebody or other in Mexico. Still, the cheater (and cheating in boxing, where men can be ruined for life, is a bit more egregious than cheating in, say, baseball or chess) is being rewarded. Perhaps it’s needless to say, or merely redundant, that Margarito and Pacquiao are both promoted by Bob Arum.

Cynical? Yes.

Despicable? Perhaps.

But blame Arum?

No. Hell no. Not this time.

I’m with Dana White here, a guy who’s had his public spats with both Mayweather and Arum. “It’s Floyd Mayweather’s fault,” he says. “You’re supposed to be a professional.”

Fighters are supposed to fight. What’s more, great fighters are obliged to fight other great ones. “You claim to be the best in the world,” says White. “You should take on the best until you retire, cement your place in history.”

That’s easy for White to say. After all, he controls his fighters. If that’s a subject for another day, it’s also the biggest single reason that mixed-martial arts has overtaken boxing in all but the most rarefied pay-per-view levels. Whatever combat aesthetic you fancy (I prefer boxing), the UFC guarantees that the best fight the best. In boxing, you hope and wait two years, and get what? Pacquiao-Margarito.

“For denying them this fight, boxing fans should never buy another Floyd Mayweather fight as long as they live,” says White.

I’m not prepared to do it — if Mayweather deigns to fight again, I’ll be there, front and center — but I surely understand the sentiments. Everybody from the most casual fans to those with a money stake desperately wanted this fight to happen — except for one guy. That would be Mayweather himself.

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The peculiar thing is, he’s not far removed from his most ennobling moment. It came, somewhat improbably, as Mosley wobbled him with a right hand in the second round of their fight at the MGM. Mayweather had never been hurt like that, certainly not as a pro. But he kept his composure and came back to dominate the remaining rounds, more willing than usual to trade punches.

What happened? Mayweather was asked.

“What happened is, I’m a fighter.”

Then you should fight, no?

Next, he was asked about Manny Pacquiao and the negotiations that fell apart apart last winter when Mayweather suddenly became a proponent of Olympic-style drug testing. “If Manny takes the test,” he said, “we can make the fight happen.”

Negotiations for Pacquaio-Mayweather began anew the next day, May 2, according to a statement to be released later today by HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg. “I had been negotiating with a representative from each side,” says Greenburg, “… carefully trying to put the fight together.”

Suddenly, drug-testing wasn’t much of an issue. Apparently, Pacquiao agreed to Olympic-style testing that would conclude just two weeks before the fight. The negotiations, with Greenburg as the go-between, lasted about eight weeks. Arum represented Pacquiao. Mayweather was represented by Al Haymon. By reputation, Haymon is extremely bright, inscrutable, and wise enough to never, ever be quoted. He’s a businessman, and if nothing else recognized that Mayweather-Pacquiao was great business.

A source close to the negotiations estimates that the pie — to be split evenly between Pacquaio and Mayweather — could’ve been worth in excess of $120 million with pay-per view revenue and site fees. At three million pay-per-view buys, each fighter stood to collect between $50 and $55 million. At a more modest two million buys, they’d each get about $40 million.

By June, the fight seemed a lock. Oscar De La Hoya, whose Golden Boy Promotions partners with Mayweather, was quoted as saying: “The two fighters now realize that this fight must be made … It's going to be a big, big fight. I think right now we are very, very close in finalizing the contracts.”

On Monday, when Robert Morales of BoxingScene.com caught up with De La Hoya in Los Angeles, the Golden Boy denied it all. “Obviously,” he said, “negotiations weren’t going on.”

Obviously. De La Hoya knew this because last week, after negotiations broke down, Mayweather advisor Leonard Ellerbe issued a press release. “No negotiations have ever taken place,” it read. “... Either Ross Greenburg or Bob Arum is not telling the truth, but history tells us who is lying.”

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He was referring to Arum, of course. But now that Greenburg’s release supports Arum’s story, the Mayweather camp has taken to citing a Make A Wish video shot June 2.

“At this particular time,” said Floyd Mayweather, “Floyd Mayweather is taking probably a year off, a couple years off from the sport of boxing.”

Oh. Then why did Haymon keep negotiating for at least another month? Is he that much of a sucker?

“You can’t fault Haymon,” says my source. “He was trying to make this fight.”

There were five guys involved here. Four of them — Pacquiao, Arum, Haymon and Greenburg — worked hard to make it happen. The fifth guy killed it.

It’s been said that Arum should’ve matched his fighter with Andre Berto or Paul Williams, who, at 6-foot-1 is just too big and long for the 5-4 Pacquiao. But they’re both Haymon fighters. Why should Arum reward the guy who couldn’t deliver Mayweather?

Berto and Williams are better fighters than Margarito. But outside of boxing, no one knows their names. At least Margarito — who’ll sell tickets in Mexico, if no where else — has some cachet as a villain.

That’s sad. But sadder still is the prospect of another erstwhile heel, a decade from now.

Money Mayweather is an ex-fighter. Or maybe not. Still loitering at the Hard Rock, though.

“We’ll see,” says Dana White. “We’ll see how desperate he is in 10 years.”



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24 comments for "Dana White Runs Into Mayweather in Vegas"


 07-29-2010, 03:37 PMaway - #2
Killaaj
Mayweather is no PUPPET... He deserves to fight who he wants when he wants... This aint slavery... He said take a blood test and piss test we can work... RIGHT OR WRONG?
 07-29-2010, 03:42 PMaway - #3
Main Event
f**k Dana White
 07-29-2010, 03:44 PMonline - #4
thugged
Originally Posted by Killaaj
Mayweather is no PUPPET... He deserves to fight who he wants when he wants... This aint slavery... He said take a blood test and piss test we can work... RIGHT OR WRONG?
Mayweather is a professional who claims to be the greatest

if you claim to be the greatest, you take on all comers, especially those that some people believe will beat you



as a Pacquaio fan, I still think Mayweather will win, just because of his defensive style and countering. But the fact that he doesnt take the fight even though reports say Pacquaio agreed to the tests says alot about him
 07-29-2010, 03:49 PMaway - #5
Woodwin
Originally Posted by thugged
Mayweather is a professional who claims to be the greatest

if you claim to be the greatest, you take on all comers, especially those that some people believe will beat you



as a Pacquaio fan, I still think Mayweather will win, just because of his defensive style and countering. But the fact that he doesnt take the fight even though reports say Pacquaio agreed to the tests says alot about him
bruh its reports u cant believe bob arum the media or anyone until he it comes out his mouth...until Pacquia says it i dont believe it..He had his oppurtunity to agree..if he dont wanna take the test dont take it...But ure even more of a b**ch if u say no at first the finally agree..guess the steroids is out his system
 07-29-2010, 03:54 PMonline - #6
Dash420
i jus think all this s**t is jus hype so when it finally goes down s**t is goin to go down in history 4real.
 07-29-2010, 03:55 PMaway - #7
bigbarcelona
Originally Posted by thugged
Mayweather is a professional who claims to be the greatest

if you claim to be the greatest, you take on all comers, especially those that some people believe will beat you



as a Pacquaio fan, I still think Mayweather will win, just because of his defensive style and countering. But the fact that he doesnt take the fight even though reports say Pacquaio agreed to the tests says alot about him
It says to me that Mayweather is a pus*y and another Lebron.

They talk all that bulls**t, sell you this gay ass image of greatness and at the end, they pooed on their legacies because they are too pus*y because they don't want to confront a real challenge.

IF this is true about Pacquio agreeing to fight Mayweather and he said no... Mayweather might as well joined the likes of Lebron as being another pus*y and fraud.

Matter fact... why is he so scared to fight Pacquio??? The best is always willing and ready to fight the best. So if he supposed to be the best... why don't you do it???

I guess Mayweather don't want to, because at the end... he is all pink inside . SIMPLE!
 07-29-2010, 03:57 PMonline - #8
thugged
Originally Posted by Woodwin
bruh its reports u cant believe bob arum the media or anyone until he it comes out his mouth...until Pacquia says it i dont believe it..He had his oppurtunity to agree..if he dont wanna take the test dont take it...But ure even more of a b**ch if u say no at first the finally agree..guess the steroids is out his system
I know you cant believe the reports 100% but dont you think that the fact that its being reported so heavily by the media without any statements from mayweather camp it might have some truth?
 07-29-2010, 03:58 PMaway - #9
katalist
Dana speaking the truth
 07-29-2010, 04:17 PMaway - #10
I'm The Dan
yeah, mayweather is afraid of losing. similar to roy jones jr... after he lost, his brand dropped fast. paciao is one of the dudes that i could see beating mayweather.
 07-29-2010, 04:24 PMonline - #11
landlord151515
Floyd doesn't need to fight again this year. why would he fight to big fights in one year only to have the IRS get theirs twice.
 07-29-2010, 04:25 PMaway - #12
AyeDre
Mayweather still going to win whenever they fight.

I guess people don't understand Floyd don't give a f**k lol. If I made however much he made when he destroyed Mosley I would just retire. Kick it with the fam and what not.
 07-29-2010, 04:41 PMaway - #13
bigree61
u white boys are f**ked up Bob Arum is the new Don King if youll are olold enough to know who he is

floyd didnt take the fight bc hi uncle/trainer is bout to go to trail and could get some time {hopefully not} and that woulld f**k up his training and pac man want fight if he woul have to lose freddy in the middle of training nobodey would for what should be on of the best fights of all time

they will fight and floyd will be 42-0
 07-29-2010, 04:42 PMaway - #14
GaryIn'75
This is one of those topics that whenever the fight does happen...........im not going to be interested
 07-29-2010, 04:44 PMaway - #15
triznathaniel
Mayweather not desperate? I thought the only reason he came back to boxing was to pay back taxes...

Anyway, I get what Money is saying here... he's not desperate enough to risk flushing his brand down the toilet by fighting the one guy who could very well beat him... my question is, what kind of damage does it do to his brand to send this sort of message to his fans?

“We’ll see,” says Dana White. “We’ll see how desperate he is in 10 years.”
Sometimes the dude says something dumb when he should just be quiet, but a lot of the time he is simply leading with his balls and speaking the truth... this is the latter

Last edited by triznathaniel; 07-29-2010 at 04:48 PM..
 07-29-2010, 04:46 PMaway - #16
riga89
Damn, Floyd better put this steroid cycling impostor away. Get that bread Floyd. $65,000,000 is a s**t load of money. Mayweather gotta do his thing.
 07-29-2010, 04:54 PMaway - #17
DrX
floyd my man but lets be real he dont want this fight for many different reasons...i just hope he go broke in the next few months so hes forced to fight
 07-29-2010, 04:57 PMaway - #18
CentsCuZ
How about a link?
 07-29-2010, 05:01 PMonline - #19
biscuit
Floyd will win, and f**k Dana White.

Simple...
 07-29-2010, 05:04 PMaway - #20
iQon
No idea why niggas keep tryna get people off Floyd's dick. It's impossible.

s**t doesn't even have anything to do with Arum anymore and people keep bringin him up. Aside from common sense there were negotiations, his story checked out. If Greenburg/HBO was smart, he wouldn't have confirmed or denied s**t. They're in business with both fighters and their promoters, siding with one for anything is dumb.

Why would anybody believe Arum was lying when Oscar himself said they were negotiating last month?
 
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