Best QB's in Past 4 Seasons: Stats

fact is every top qb discussion on here you always seem to come in an single out eli,you quick to bring up eli interception stats but soon as stats is brung up on the giants defense and it shows how bad it is you still gonna over look that and still say the defense carried eli to the championship[pic]

So QB stats aren't a team accomplishment anymore? These stud linemen that don't let anybody get thru and even lay a finger on their quarterback. The receiver running the route and catching the ball in coverage. The guy calling the plays. [pic] with that.

Eli and Ben have had to take the most punishment out of anybody in the top 8-10. And they have accomplished the most. Stats aren't pretty but I've got to see 3 Super Bowls and 2 wins [pic] I'm sure Giants fans could give a !!less about Eli's stats too.

So I guess Chargers fans can enjoy Rivers great regular season stats with his 3-4 post-season record. They would trade all that in for a SB appearance in a heart beat.

I do that because I don't believe Eli deserved to be in the same sentence as Brady/Brees/Rodgers/Peyton(in previous years). I don't hate the dude I am not biased against him. My opinions are just based off of statistical evidence and I post based off of that(not just stats but also Wins/Losses and what caused them)

I actually defended Eli when he was catching heat before the first superbowl. I have picked the Giants to win the division I believe 3 or 4 of the last 5 years.

I just feel Eli is vastly overrated(along with the majority of SB winning QBs)

I do that because I don't believe Eli deserved to be in the same sentence as Brady/Brees/Rodgers/Peyton(in previous years). I don't hate the dude I am not biased against him. My opinions are just based off of statistical evidence and I post based off of that(not just stats but also Wins/Losses and what caused them)

I actually defended Eli when he was catching heat before the first superbowl. I have picked the Giants to win the division I believe 3 or 4 of the last 5 years.

I just feel Eli is vastly overrated(along with the majority of SB winning QBs)

So QB stats aren't a team accomplishment anymore? These stud linemen that don't let anybody get thru and even lay a finger on their quarterback. The receiver running the route and catching the ball in coverage. The guy calling the plays. [pic] with that.

Eli and Ben have had to take the most punishment out of anybody in the top 8-10. And they have accomplished the most. Stats aren't pretty but I've got to see 3 Super Bowls and 2 wins [pic] I'm sure Giants fans could give a !!less about Eli's stats too.

So I guess Chargers fans can enjoy Rivers great regular season stats with his 3-4 post-season record. They would trade all that in for a SB appearance in a heart beat.

since you always knocking eli for not being elite because he throws alot of interception from the stats the threadstarter posted the past 4 years eli have 1 more interception then brees...

and since you so in love with stats you was proven with stats that show where the giants defense was ranked but that didnt matter right?

Look I agree that Eli is a solid QB and had 2 great playoff runs but why are we just looking at 2 runs? In the playoffs he has a 17-8 TD/INT rate, very solid. Tony Romo the biggest choke artist in the universe has a similar rate(less games obviously).

How about this(I don't mean this to be 100% the reasoning behind anything, just pointing something out)

Tony Romo has never lost a playoff game where his defense allowed 20 points or less(once [pic])
Eli Manning has never lost a playoff game where his defense allowed 20 points or less(every game during the SB run)
Eli Manning and Tony Romo have never won a playoff game where the defense allowed more then 20 points.

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Look I agree that Eli is a solid QB and had 2 great playoff runs but why are we just looking at 2 runs? In the playoffs he has a 17-8 TD/INT rate, very solid. Tony Romo the biggest choke artist in the universe has a similar rate(less games obviously).

How about this(I don't mean this to be 100% the reasoning behind anything, just pointing something out)

Tony Romo has never lost a playoff game where his defense allowed 20 points or less(once [pic])
Eli Manning has never lost a playoff game where his defense allowed 20 points or less(every game during the SB run)
Eli Manning and Tony Romo have never won a playoff game where the defense allowed more then 20 points.

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Niga, 10 years ain't that long ago.

But to put things in perspective, the most td Tom ever threw in a SB run was 5. In Eli's first run he threw 6.

I actually give credit to Eli for winning games with a bad defense. But you use the argument they made it to the playoffs despite that as a reason why hes elite. I say elite QBs will rarely flirt with missing the QBs regardless of the defense. I would take Brady leading my team with literally nobody on my defense and still put money on making the playoffs [pic] This isn't a knock on Eli, just a reason why hes not elite(hes second tier)

since you always knocking eli for not being elite because he throws alot of interception from the stats the threadstarter posted the past 4 years eli have 1 more interception then brees...

and since you so in love with stats you was proven with stats that show where the giants defense was ranked but that didnt matter right?

Except he threw 6 in one game this year. Try again

Brees has also thrown quiet a bit more touchdowns and yards [pic].

And this is my point with the defense. Your saying the defense sucked(which it kind of did during the regular season). But come playoff time(where Eli gets all of the credit). They kept every team under 20 points for both playoff runs. Even with playing the two highest scoring offenses in the league(and 2 of the best ever).

So QB stats aren't a team accomplishment anymore? These stud linemen that don't let anybody get thru and even lay a finger on their quarterback. The receiver running the route and catching the ball in coverage. The guy calling the plays. [pic] with that.

Eli and Ben have had to take the most punishment out of anybody in the top 8-10. And they have accomplished the most. Stats aren't pretty but I've got to see 3 Super Bowls and 2 wins [pic] I'm sure Giants fans could give a !!less about Eli's stats too.

So I guess Chargers fans can enjoy Rivers great regular season stats with his 3-4 post-season record. They would trade all that in for a SB appearance in a heart beat.

Brady doesn't really get credit like that for the first two superbowls(from rational people at least).

I give him credit for his last 2. I do the same with Eli since he played at a high level in both runs.

In his 1st run He didn't even throw for a td in the nfccg...did he even crack 200 in the bowl?

Ben actually posts nice stats throughout his career. I debunked the myth that he doesn't. In fact, accounting for regular season+postseason he has outdone Rivers in their careers.
Say all you want about his regular season stats. In his 2 SB runs, 8 games, 15 td, 2 int...

Aaron Rodgers been sacked way more then Eli the past four years.

Annyway Eli and Ben also had the best defenses out of the top 8.