Free Work? How Disrespectful Is That?

10-20-2007, 12:14 PM

i can but ijus dont charge cause im still gettin my game up i could charge if i wanted but i dont

11-06-2007, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Customs

latest..

''i cant afford a paypal account''

lmfao

duuuuuuuude i had this dude who couldnt set one up cuz his card apparently was from some third world country and it got rejected. But he says he's ballin and yet can't come up with any payment. smh

11-07-2007, 10:58 AM

thas wasup.. gimme my moneyy!

11-07-2007, 11:53 AM

money talks ! bull!! runs the marathon
see ya ! and I wouldnt wanna be ya

12-05-2007, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by mosecksclusive

this is the absolute truth

No it's not...A big magazine came @ me to ask me if i would do a free cover for them...averybody was like "NO...NO WAY..."
Anyway i did it,took me like 2 hours of work...and now i work with them,i'm getting paid real nice,and have been recently raised without asking anything...if i did have tought the way you do,i would be still doing gfx for the BX fam ( no offense :D ) ... you've got to study each opportunities in a different way...

12-08-2007, 07:08 AM

true point. i agree with this 95%. this is because, i have done free work. I do gfx because i love doing it, i'm still in school, i honestly dont have time to make a living out of this, and i certainly dont have the ability to make a living out of this, but i made a cover for a dude who requested it as a favor. I accepted the request taking it on as a challenge, to complete a proper mixtape cover, something like no other piece of work that ive done before and i managed to pull it off pretty well in my opinion. it's not always about money if you enjoy doing something and taking on new challenges...

05:35 PM

Just ran across this on another board...made me laugh.

His first post:

Originally Posted by NJQueeZ

Does Anyone want to make me just a front cover just to get your name out there and your work seen

After niccas got at him:

Originally Posted by NJQueeZ

Ok... This is the internet, Get over your views! Dont you Want real Nl99aZ(people) To see your !! and not Internet nerds? and the cover im talking bout im gonna print it so niccaz not nerds can look at it and touch it.

Im OUt. But if anyone who wants to do that for me holla at me Pm me or something if not w/e.
-QueeZ

12-27-2007, 05:58 PM

yea
grade A bull!!
ill put my 360 up that someone will do it too

12:46 AM

Props! I need to start calling you Reverend. That's preaching right there. Thanks for posting this.

04-10-2008, 01:02 PM

I only do free work for really close friends and even then technically they are doing something for me whether it be business favors or making certain contacts or giving me exclusive material for my mixtapes... but i agree..... I had TONS of people ask me for work! This one wimp[..] club promoter/wannabe manager told me i need to show him what I can do with it BEFORE he paid me..... funny part is I already showed him samples of other covers I did...... I told him I don't even START working on a project without getting paid up front... why would i waste my time making a cover for a deadbeat? After I told him to pay up front he started beating around the bush and eventually stopped calling.... thank god!

04-10-2008, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Morphy

duuuuuuuude i had this dude who couldnt set one up cuz his card apparently was from some third world country and it got rejected. But he says he's ballin and yet can't come up with any payment. smh

hehe funny thing is a dude said the same type of !! to me talking about "But I don't have a Paypal account"....... I said, "You don't need one, all you need is a debit/credit card" I then explained how I could send him a payment request and all he needs is his debit/credit card....... he was speechless for a moment then tried to weasel his way out by making up some lie that he don't have a card..... I said "Do you have a bank account?"... he was like... "Yeah..."..... I was like, so you have all these businesses and a bank account... but you don't have a card?!?!?..... He knew I caught him in a lie and ended the convo pretty quick after that! [pic]

04-10-2008, 01:14 PM

yeah i agree on many aspects here . But I only seem to find the "work for an opportunity for exposure" mostly coming from amature clients ... like some dude thinking hes on some kind of jump off , or hes the next big things ...

i think thought that this information should be used to new designers as a building block .. KNOW the truth ! , exposure isnt nessesary , you can get exposure anyware ... and why on earth would you be giving out free work for exposure. I have once recently donated my services for free cd cover. It doesnt mean you should . I did it cause i was bored and i wanted to add something to my portfolio that was a cd cover. But if you think your going to get exposure for that you wont get anything special back from it .... if your going to do something free , pretty much sum up your expectations for no return , cause 99% of the time thats what it amounts to. Unless you are ready to self promote yourself with the new work you have made , you're barking up the wrong tree ....

be smart , think of your services as money to someone else .

doesnt mean dont do free , but realize they facts as mentioned in this thread .

unfornatly you wont stop these people from crowding , just like telemarketing , it will and continues to exsist .... we cant train them to leave , but you can be smart ...

07-05-2008, 01:27 PM

what should i, as a beginner charge for my art?
i do: covers, posters, logos, photography...

07-06-2008, 08:14 PM

If you have to ask us that question, you shouldn't be charging period.

07-22-2008, 12:27 PM

we'll like i said in another thread that the incompetent mods of this section can't seem to figure out if they want open or closed... "half of u "graphic designers" are trash, about as bad as me so who the !! would wanna pay u??? granted if ur good I can see u charging but most of u are just trash"

I only do free work for really close friends and even then technically they are doing something for me whether it be business favors or making certain contacts or giving me exclusive material for my mixtapes... but i agree..... I had TONS of people ask me for work! This one wimp[..] club promoter/wannabe manager told me i need to show him what I can do with it BEFORE he paid me..... funny part is I already showed him samples of other covers I did...... I told him I don't even START working on a project without getting paid up front... why would i waste my time making a cover for a deadbeat? After I told him to pay up front he started beating around the bush and eventually stopped calling.... thank god!

we'll who the !! would want to pay BEFORE they get what they want??? u ever thought of it like that???

what should i, as a beginner charge for my art?
i do: covers, posters, logos, photography...

and this is the level that most of u are at, tryna charge for crap

07-22-2008, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by AlexG1989

we'll like i said in another thread that the incompetent mods of this section can't seem to figure out if they want open or closed... "half of u "graphic designers" are trash, about as bad as me so who the !! would wanna pay u??? granted if ur good I can see u charging but most of u are just trash"

we'll who the !! would want to pay BEFORE they get what they want??? u ever thought of it like that???

and this is the level that most of u are at, tryna charge for crap

Stop crying cause you couldn't get a free cover so you ended up with the bull!! you got now. This thread is aimed at lames who go to designers and ask for free work -- they're good enough to ask for design work, but not good enough to pay? Riiight...

Oh, and as far as the thread, all the mature mods keep closing and deleting it but I keep opening it cause it's funny. :)

07-22-2008, 09:59 PM

Stop crying cause you couldn't get a free cover so you ended up with the bull!! you got now. This thread is aimed at lames who go to designers and ask for free work -- they're good enough to ask for design work, but not good enough to pay? Riiight...

Oh, and as far as the thread, all the mature mods keep closing and deleting it but I keep opening it cause it's funny.

I dont care about the free cover, im perfectly happy with the one I made... but see, the majority of those who posted in here are crap....

07-22-2008, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by AlexG1989

I dont care about the free cover, im perfectly happy with the one I made... but see, the majority of those who posted in here are crap....

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09-04-2008, 08:20 PM

Good post..........

I was guilty of doing "free" work in high-school and only on a few jobs have the people come back to hire me to do more work for them or were the jobs worthwhile to mention in a portfolio.

11:20 AM

I agree 100% with the pay aspect. But just like MC and beatmakers, there is a beginning level where cats have to do !! for promo, build relationships, get their names out. If there is no place for them to post up here and do work for promo/proove themselves, there will be a ton of half[..] cats jumping in the game with no skill looking to get paid.

I have a vet graf writer who also does grafics professionally for an est@blished marketing co but I do like to scout out new talent.

I do prefer to pay for professional work though, cuts out the bullish!!!

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